shinshoryuken
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yes all phone lags when you run whole bunch of stuff on it....but the S4 had shutter just going in an out of the app drawers...my S3 never did that...
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Samsung Galaxy S4 (new flagship Android phone from Samsung)
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yes all phone lags when you run whole bunch of stuff on it....but the S4 had shutter just going in an out of the app drawers...my S3 never did that...
The Faceless Master
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what are some of the numerous sites (other than Square Trade) that say this? i've already said my piece on them...
The octa core is also going to be sold here as well. No LTE support with that though. They changed their minds again.
I'm using it right now, and I'll go through the apps on my home page and which stutter when you go in and out of the app.
S4
Facebook - No stutter going in or out
Whatsapp - No stutter going in or out
ColorNote - No stutter going in, slight stutter going out
NeoGAF (shortcut) - No stutter going in or out
GMAIL - No stutter going in or out
Camera - No stutter going in or out
Gallery - No stutter going in or out
PlayStore - No stutter going in or out
S3
Facebook - No stutter going in or out
Whatsapp - No stutter going in or out
ColorNote - No stutter going in, ever so slight stutter going out
NeoGAF (shortcut) - No stutter going in or out
GMAIL - No stutter going in or out
Camera - No stutter going in, ever so slight stutter going out
Gallery - No stutter going in or out
PlayStore - No stutter going in or out
Anecdotal I know, but I'm only reporting what I'm experiencing. Not suggesting at all the S4's UI runs like butter 100% of the time. It runs about the same as the S3 in all honestly, quick and snappy most of the time, the odd micro stutter here and there. Same as most phone's. As I reported in my impressions earlier, only real glitch I've had is the music player crashing on me one time.
Played with a friend's AT&T S4 tonight, plenty of micro stuttering around the OS. It's Android...the GPU is so poorly coded/implemented, it will be a problem until Google gets their heads out of their asses.
Most of the Samsung features like eye scrolling and head position based pausing are so gimmicky it's sad. The camera additions are pretty slick though.
Most of the Samsung features like eye scrolling and head position based pausing are so gimmicky it's sad. The camera additions are pretty slick though.
I like the fact that it doesn't lock the phone if you look at it. Officially the only one I use.
Not noticing much of the stuttering mentioned. I get a little going to my second homescreen with a shit ton of widgets, but that's it. The home button isn't as instant as I'd like it to be either, but other than that, I'm more than happy performance wise.
Marty Chinn
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I don't think it's Google in this case.
I'm pretty sensitive to framerates; I can easily tell a 60fps game from something less, I hate streaming sports cuz of the framerate being in half, can't stand XBMC when the ui isn't at 60, hated when survivor went to Hd at the expense of framerate and avoided Android because of it compared to my iPhone.
With that in mind, it's a non issue on the HTC One. Since the S4 has similar hardware, I'm inclined to believe it's a Samsung optimization issue instead of it being Google's fault.
WTF Samsung. I just went to take a look at the black S4 and came back extremely disappointed 
What a two face of a phone, the front is beautiful but the back cover is just hideous. It looks like something a teenage girl would design. If it had a matte carbon style backcover, it would easily be the best looking phone out there.
Is the white version any better?
What a two face of a phone, the front is beautiful but the back cover is just hideous. It looks like something a teenage girl would design. If it had a matte carbon style backcover, it would easily be the best looking phone out there.Is the white version any better?
Victory Red
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Is this a joke post or what? Its not working for me and I feel like an idiot sitting here and tapping continuously
SirMossyBloke
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That typically "unlocks" the hidden Android OS version screen. Doesn't work on the One though and I guess not the S4 either.
Edit: Mixing things up a little, it's the android version you tap on, and it does work on the S4.
Victory Red
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When I kept clicking the OS version a Jelly Bean 4.2.2 and a huge jelly bean showed up for a few seconds. But no extra toggles for animation duration
Victory Red
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Okay, its: Settings > More > About Device. Scroll down to Build Number > Press it 7 times.
Go back a screen and enter Developer Options.
If you scroll down you can set 3 different types of animations in .5 incriments. I turned those 3 from 1.0x to .5x
Definitely a snappier experience going through the phone
Go back a screen and enter Developer Options.
If you scroll down you can set 3 different types of animations in .5 incriments. I turned those 3 from 1.0x to .5x
Definitely a snappier experience going through the phone
Ephemeris
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Made a few wallpapers using Dead End Thrills. I'm not actually sure how they look, but once I get back from work I might move them over proper (reception here is shocking).
I'm not even sure if these filesizes are appropriate, but here's to wishing!
nom nom nom
Lol, pretty good vid.
Sorry dude, should have explained myself a bit better earlier. Glad you got it though.
Nice wallpapers above but I'd love MOAR! Lol.
Awesome.
Peterthumpa
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Holy shit, after having my One for just about a week now, had the opportunity to play a little bit with a friend's S4. Honestly, I can't understand why there's so many lags on animations that makes the phone seems sluggish as hell. I believe that this must be the Touch UX or whatever Samsung calls it, because this is issue is completely non existent on my One (which has a slightly underclocked processor btw).
Also, Samsung UI is a disservice to this phone strengths.
Coming from an old S3 user, not biased in any means. Just stating what I was able to notice right away.
Also, Samsung UI is a disservice to this phone strengths.
Coming from an old S3 user, not biased in any means. Just stating what I was able to notice right away.
Samsung's TouchWiz is pretty terrible from what I've heard. Ugly, full of useless bloatware, and causes a lot of lag and stuttering (especially when talking about older versions). Samsung just really need to work on their software. It's annoying because every casual user ends up thinking lag is an android issue, when it's only a legitimate issue with phones that use shitty software placed over android. Hopefully Samsung releases and update soon for the S4. It's unacceptable to have lag or stuttering with this powerful a phone.
The Faceless Master
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actually, performance was not a complaint against TouchWiz until now. the GS4 was rushed.
BigEvilTurtle
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Would replacing TouchWiz with a better launcher fix it/make it better?
The Faceless Master
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changing the launcher doesn't change the underlying framework. the launcher is just one facet.
Really? My brother used to own a few Samsung android phones back in the day and they were super laggy.
The Faceless Master
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which ones?
Peterthumpa
Member
Not really I think. It would still be running in the background as a default service from the phone.
I guess that maybe a custom ROM would help it, but I'm not aware of the current state of development for the S4.
BigEvilTurtle
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I see. /: So can we expect an update to fix these problems?
I think whatever issues are present will be ironed out in software updates. if you remember, the S3 was exactly the same on release, and had several releases (that were very frequent) that ironed them out, including the Jelly Bean 'Butter' update.
Don't remember. I think one of them was the original Galaxy S, the other being a more "recent" model. I never used them unless I needed to use them for a bit. He used to get pissed at his phone though and eventually moved over to a Windows Phone.
Peterthumpa
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I really don't think that Samsung is able to fix this without a complete overhaul of their Android implementation. My Galaxy S3 was always sluggish with Samsung official firmwares, and installing Cyanogenmod reduced the problem but never eliminated it, probably 'cause the Exynos sources were never well documented.
This could be different for the S4's quad core version though, since it runs a Snapdragon processor.
Samsung DID fix the issues with the S3 though. You probably just got rid of yours before you were able to see them through. Also, getting rid of the carrier OS versions helps massively, I've always used only vanilla (stock) TouchWiz on my Galaxy phones and imo they run cleaner.
Victory Red
Member
Can someone post a screenshot of their Google Play Store home screen.
Mine and my girlfriend's is different.
Mine and my girlfriend's is different.
SirMossyBloke
Member
If it's white it's new, if it's black it's old. If you want the new one and it hasn't been pushed to you just google "play store apk", download it directly to the phone and install it. Android Police have it.
Peterthumpa
Member
I got rid of mine three weeks ago. Believe me, in comparison with my S3 and even the S4 that I talked about, my One is in another level of smoothness.
Victory Red
Member
Okay, this is hers.
Why would she have the older one?
Why would she have the older one?
I have a hard time believing that. People said the same thing about the iPhone, but that isn't true either really. It might have a margin less micro stutter, but I'd be surprised if it's going to be that much smoother overall since most of these phones now (Windows, Android or iOS) are all lightning quick. Did you reduce the windows transition scales/durations by half in developer options when you had the S3? A lot of people find iOS quicker, but that's often mainly because the animations with pane transitions are much shorter and snappier in iOS, which you can replicate somewhat in the options.
Unless of course the HTC One is the first phone in the world not to suffer from micro stutter, which I already know is not the case based on video reviews etc. I am curious to try one out now though, I don't mean a demo unit in a store either (these are usually always slower and loaded with crap), but my own.
Boogalogist
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I started with Galaxy S, moved on to S2, and played with my S3. The leap from S to S2 was massive. S2 to S3 made it even faster. But I still felt that the biggest leap was from S to S2. The original Galaxy S was laggy, but with CFW, it was manageable.
SirMossyBloke
Member
The One is a little smoother than the S4, by about...3% lol. The S4 is fine.
Peterthumpa
Member
Yes, I did reduce the transition scale back then. The problem was never animation speed but animation fluidity. Even with custom ROMs the problem never went away.
My guess is that Sense 5 (HTC's over the top interface) is really well optimized and the fact that the software runs on the latest high end hardware available helps it a lot.
Give the One a try and you'll see what I mean.
There's dozens of video reviews and comparisons out there. Like, several. From PhoneArena, AndroidAuthority and more. The differences in smoothness are negligible.
Speed wise, it's hit and miss, S4 being faster in some things (web browsing and intensive apps), HTC One being faster in others (opening and closing certain apps, loading others). For example...
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One, Which Is Faster?
The conclusion in the above video is that both phones are super smooth and snappy, but the S4 is slightly quicker overall.
Nemesis_
Member
My S4 is smooth and has no stuttering at all (and this is watching youtube, facebook messaging, tweeting, GAF browsing and SMS at the same time and switching between them) and I was very sensitive to it on both my HTC Desire HD and S3
What's the deal? I have almost everything turned on as well.
What's the deal? I have almost everything turned on as well.
SirMossyBloke
Member
Can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not lol
The deal is probably that the two HTC One owners in here are seeing more stuttering in the S4 than others lol. But the reality is probably that they're roughly about the same.
I've heard similar stuff from iPhone users as well tbh, and whilst iOS might be fractionally smoother, I honestly don't think they're relevant differences. All the latest phones I've tested and used lately (including the S4), are all super snappy and smooth. None are free from micro stutter. Add to that, no doubt both the S4 and the HTC One will get smoother and quicker with firmware updates too.
As a side note, if I had to guess another reason why they find certain phones smoother or quicker, it's because those phones have shorter animation transitions. The HTC One actually has shorter animations in menu transitions over the S4, which might be giving the illusion of it being smoother or quicker (likewise with iOS). I have 0.5x animation scale/duration on my Galaxy's so I don't really notice it as much.
Nemesis_
Member
More wallpapers from Dead End Thrills. So it's all gaming stuff, but some of them are rather nice.
Nothing shows off the HD Super AMOLED as well as the stock wallpapers though, not sure how I would even try to achieve that same effect (then again, I am merely cropping the Dead End Thrills images anyway so it's not like I'm doing anything special)
I guess it's also the fact that the images themselves aren't big enough to look natively crisp when you crop out a small part of them. It's disappointing - basically whoever does the capture needs to do it originally with intent to take a vertical orientation rather than horizontal.
Nothing shows off the HD Super AMOLED as well as the stock wallpapers though, not sure how I would even try to achieve that same effect (then again, I am merely cropping the Dead End Thrills images anyway so it's not like I'm doing anything special)
I guess it's also the fact that the images themselves aren't big enough to look natively crisp when you crop out a small part of them. It's disappointing - basically whoever does the capture needs to do it originally with intent to take a vertical orientation rather than horizontal.
Takamura-San
Member
I was successful at the At&t store and was able to buy one of these.
Loving it so far.
Been able to use the full Gmaps is a godsend for my commute and also looking forward to take advantage of Google now.
Coming from a 4s is also kinda jarring... DAT Screen.
Cannot wait for CM to happen on this.
Loving it so far.
Been able to use the full Gmaps is a godsend for my commute and also looking forward to take advantage of Google now.
Coming from a 4s is also kinda jarring... DAT Screen.
Cannot wait for CM to happen on this.
Genesis Knight
Member
Root it and take off the bloatware.
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