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Samuel L Jackson: "I voted for Obama because he's black"

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Steelrain

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Uchip said:
Obama isnt even black though?
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Blackace

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Flying_Phoenix said:
Bill Clinton's black?
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In writing about the impeachment in 1998, Morrison wrote that, since Whitewater, Bill Clinton had been mistreated because of his "Blackness":

Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children’s lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald’s-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas.[16]

The phrase "our first Black president" was adopted as a positive by Bill Clinton supporters. When the Congressional Black Caucus honored the former president at its dinner in Washington D.C. on September 29, 2001, for instance, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX), the chair, told the audience that Clinton "took so many initiatives he made us think for a while we had elected the first black president."[17]

In the context of the 2008 Democratic Primary campaign, Morrison stated to Time magazine: "People misunderstood that phrase. I was deploring the way in which President Clinton was being treated, vis-à-vis the sex scandal that was surrounding him. I said he was being treated like a black on the street, already guilty, already a perp. I have no idea what his real instincts are, in terms of race."[18] In the Democratic primary contest for the 2008 presidential race, Morrison endorsed Senator Barack Obama over Senator Hillary Clinton,[19] though expressing admiration and respect for the latter.[20
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you tell me
 
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Oblivion

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bishoptl said:
and then walked down and beat his ass in front of everyone. Disrespectful moupfacca.
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While it's debatable whether that congressman's outburst was "inappropriate", one thing that we all should agree on is that no one's first amendment rights should be infringed upon.
 
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Houston3000

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Samuel L. Jackson is a joke character guys, com'n... I mean, he's been in some great movies and is a good actor but he's simply a stereotyped cartoon of his former self now-a-days.
 
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BigDug13

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Verelios said:
I can actually see where he's coming from. Actually, I just didn't want to vote for McCaine.
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I don't think there's any question that McCain was going to lose. But things like this are the reason a virtual no-name beat out Hilary at the primaries.
 
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Wilbur

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I can't vote because I'm English. But I definitely would have voted Obama because of his afro growing potential

joke, would have voted because mccain would be dead halfway through his term

joke, because he sucks
 
Blackace

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Oblivion said:
While it's debatable whether that congressman's outburst was "inappropriate", one thing that we all should agree on is that no one's first amendment rights should be infringed upon.
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There is nothing debatable about if the outburst was inappropriate... His position should come with respect, Bush got it even after stealing the election..
 
Angry Fork

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I supported Obama partly because he was black and I'm white. I felt proud for the country for the first time in my life that we had gotten to that point and wanted to be part of such a historic milestone. It really felt like things were going to change in terms of old rich white guys running everything and not giving a shit about anyone but themselves. I still have the newspaper from the morning after just because in the far future people will wonder what everyone's reaction was. It's a real shame and massive disappointment what he turned out to be but oh well.

I agree with Jackson that I hope Obama gets 'scary' if he's re-elected because the bi-partisan hand holding shit needs to stop. He has to lay down the law and stop being a bitch towards every group of asshole idiots that wants something. If a catholic group has a problem with women getting the right to contraceptives/abortion etc. he needs to tell them to stfu and deal with it.
 
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How could you even blame Samuel when all of his life if he wanted to vote it was between two white guys. Why wouldn't you go for the COMBO BREAKER if you had a chance? It might not happen soon again!

I'm willing to bet that millions of McCain supporters voted for him because he was the white guy. Said again, they voted against the black guy and that was enough. In the end everybody can do whatever they want with their vote.
 
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Slayven

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Blackace said:
There is nothing debatable about if the outburst was inappropriate... His position should come with respect, Bush got it even after stealing the election..
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Obama is the most disrespected president ever. The way some people say his name I can't help but hear the n word.
 
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SonnyBoy

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Jackson and most black people do not feel that Obama gets the respect he deserves. Regardless of his decision making or capabilities, as the POTUS, you should treat him with some dignity. Being called a liar in a random outburts and having a finger point directly in his face is complete disrespect. You have the obvious racial tension that's going to occur from those situations. And it's not just a white vs black thing cus black folk jumped all the way down Jesse Jacksons throat after what he said LOL.
 
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Oblivion

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Blackace said:
There is nothing debatable about if the outburst was inappropriate... His position should come with respect, Bush got it even after stealing the election..
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Right, cause Bush never got a shoe thrown at him or anything.
 
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Kosmo

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Blackace said:
There is nothing debatable about if the outburst was inappropriate... His position should come with respect, Bush got it even after stealing the election..
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Well, other than Harry Reid calling him a loser to some school children. That anyone would argue Bush was treated with respect (between being called a war criminal, apparently) is hilarious.
 
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bishoptl

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Oblivion said:
While it's debatable whether that congressman's outburst was "inappropriate", one thing that we all should agree on is that no one's first amendment rights should be infringed upon.
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Hey, nobody's saying he can't say whatever he wants to...but last time I checked, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from being critiqued (or getting one's ass kicked, but I digress)
 
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Deified Data

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shuri said:
Yeah I know it's a TMZ link but still


Source: http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/11/barack-obama-samuel-l-jackson/

How do you guys feel about this? It's his own personal choice, but I disagree with his point. I really dont think that people vote for candidates that look like them. I would almost go the point of saying that it's a pretty damn dumb reason to vote for someone. I expected better from Jackson.. And whats with the 'some white dude' thing :/
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This is fair. Let's not pretend that most voters' motivations are any more substantial.
 
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Insertia

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NeoGaf, get a clue.

African Americans have been stripped and handicapped since arriving to this country via enslavement.

Yes blacks voted for Barrack. 40 years ago people were still being lynched.
 
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Cartman86

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Insertia said:
NeoGaf, get a clue.

African Americans have been stripped and handicapped since arriving to this country via enslavement.

Yes blacks voted for Barrack. 40 years ago people were still being lynched.
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Yes and voting for someone for their race despite their politics totally fixes that. I find it similar to the African American culture being so heavily associated with a religion that support slavery. It makes sense that slaves would find some stories in the bible to cling to (the Jews exodus and freedom for example), but ignoring the bigger picture of the support of all non-Jew slaves is weird. Then you have the black contingent of Baptists being one of the largest voting groups for prop 8. Discrimination lost on people who were discriminated? None of this is rational or right, but it's understandable.
 
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hey_it's_that_dog

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Cartman86 said:
Yes and voting for someone for their race despite their politics totally fixes that. I find it similar to the African American culture being so heavily associated with a religion that support slavery. It makes sense that slaves would find some stories in the bible to cling to (the Jews exodus and freedom for example), but ignoring the bigger picture of the support of all non-Jew slaves is weird. Then you have the black contingent of Baptists being one of the largest voting groups for prop 8. Discrimination lost on people who were discriminated? None of this is rational or right, but it's understandable.
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There's no "despite" in this case. Blacks overwhelmingly vote Democrat anyway, irrespective of race. Why would the typical Black person vote for John McCain?

Having a person of your demographic group in the White House can be a political victory in and of itself, even moreso your group is a minority and historically of lower social status.

You're overlooking that point because you're caught up in espousing rationality and colorblind thinking which is noble but sometimes counterproductive in understanding reality.

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As for the Baptist thing, some Blacks are reluctant to equate racial discrimination with discrimination against homosexuals because they believe homosexuality (or at least engaging im homosexual behavior) is a choice while being Black is not. It looks like hypocrisy, but if you try to understand their perspective on the issue, it looks more rational than you give it credit for. Of course, they can be wrong about the premises of their reasoning, which they are in this case.
 
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Cartman86 said:
Yes and voting for someone for their race despite their politics totally fixes that. I find it similar to the African American culture being so heavily associated with a religion that support slavery. It makes sense that slaves would find some stories in the bible to cling to (the Jews exodus and freedom for example), but ignoring the bigger picture of the support of all non-Jew slaves is weird. Then you have the black contingent of Baptists being one of the largest voting groups for prop 8. Discrimination lost on people who were discriminated? None of this is rational or right, but it's understandable.
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Blacks vote democrat. I Guarantee you that if the 2008 election was between Alan Keys vs Hillary Clinton, Clinton would win the black vote.
 
Ploid 3.0

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Cartman86 said:
Yes and voting for someone for their race despite their politics totally fixes that. It doesn't surprise me, but that doesn't make it right or smart.
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He was also the Democrat vote. He had so much going for him, being black is just one of the factors.
 
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Slayven

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Cartman86 said:
Yes and voting for someone for their race despite their politics totally fixes that. I find it similar to the African American culture being so heavily associated with a religion that support slavery. It makes sense that slaves would find some stories in the bible to cling to (the Jews exodus and freedom for example), but ignoring the bigger picture of the support of all non-Jew slaves is weird. Then you have the black contingent of Baptists being one of the largest voting groups for prop 8. Discrimination lost on people who were discriminated? None of this is rational or right, but it's understandable.
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Goddamn I thought we were over "black people passed prop 8 ".
 
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the chris

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Dram said:
Didn't the Dixie Chicks get their career ruined by criticizing the President?
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I think it was more about the fact that they criticized a Republican president and the majority of the country music community(not all of it) are Republicans.
 
Blackace

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Slayven said:
Obama is the most disrespected president ever. The way some people say his name I can't help but hear the n word.
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there was one other in US history but of course they didn't have Fox news blasting him off too...
 
Falcs

Falcs

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I'm not black nor am I american, but I would have also voted for Obama because he's black. And I'm glad he won.
 
Blackace

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faceless007 said:
I'm fairly certain Blackace was not arguing that Bush was respected by every single person in the entire world.
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pretty much.. no other president had been publicly disrespected by the officials of the country he was elected to run since Rutherford B. Hayes
 
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