TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
This.
Samus cameo in Federation Force revealed
- Thread starter LordOfLore
- Start date
This.
TheDinoman
Member
Ever hear of the website DK Vine? Up until Country Returns came out those guys were horribly bitter over the state of DK and Nintendo.
It's her ship. I take it you never played Prime 3?
Regginator
Member
Sure. It's the Metroid name in it that pisses people off. They just made a decent multiplayer game and then slapped a random IP name on it.
Might have very well been set in the Star Fox universe and I'd believe you. It's that out of touch.
Okay but there's a chasm between "meh Imma skip this game not the metriod I want" and "fuck you Nintendo"
meh, people enjoy different things, there are people who enjoy adult colouring books.
mikefrails
Banned
There is no such thing as a proper Metroid unless you created Metroid.
James Scott
Banned
Nah, it was always a Metroid game and it plays like Prime.
Jesus christ that website. Keeping 99 alive.
Forerunner
Member
James Scott
Banned
Oddly enough, the last time I saw fans get upset over a Donkey Kong game it was because it wasn't Metroid.
It's like saying Halo: ODST just slapped the Halo name on a generic shooter or something.
It's a Metroid universe with Metroid universe Federation soldiers fighting Metroid universe monsters against a Metroid universe backdrop where even Metroid's main heroine makes a cameo.
I'm starting to think this game can't do ANYTHING right in the eyes of some fans, even if there some stuff that legitimately looks fun and engaging to me, especially in a world-building sort of approach to the series.
Pancakes R Us
Member
Agreed. Samus, despite Nintendo's actions inferring otherwise, is still one of the First Ladies of gaming. Act like it, Nintendo.
Nintendo why? Your 30th anniversary for one of the biggest game characters ever and you do the equivalent of Capcom releasing Umbrella Corps...
The irony is that Donkey Konga is at least a fun game, subsequently so is DK Jungle Beat despite the short length. Im not seeing anything fun about Federation Force.
It's like the Triforce Heroes of Metroid, if Triforce Heroes didn't have Link in it and was the first Zelda game to be released in years.
Mortal Kombat got Shaolin Monks, 9 and X
Tekken got Tekken 5
Devil May Cry got 3 and 4
Soul Calibur got 4 and 5
Metroid has ???
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Kowashitai
Banned
Donkey Konga is an awful rhythm game. If the bongos weren't used for Jungle Beat, they would have been completely worthless. That said, those games are out and we can evaluate them after we played them, the same can't be said about Federation Force.
Well, it did have two "not Links" tagging along... and no Zelda whatsoever.
And the last "mainline" console Zelda game was Skyward Sword, nearly 5 years ago. Zelda games just get by with more spin-offs to fill in the gaps.
The Bankslammer
Member
put this in a museum
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
Metroid may very well be to big for Nintendo. You could argue the same about Zelda. Hyrule is full of opportunity for expansion. Zelda should be the a modern day Dungeon and Dragons with many characters and stories. There should be all different types of genres of games for Zelda.
If Nintendo was over going to consider licensing IP out and putting on third party systems, Metroid, Star Fox and Fzero should be the first three that are considered. All three could sell like gangbusters if done properly.
If Nintendo was over going to consider licensing IP out and putting on third party systems, Metroid, Star Fox and Fzero should be the first three that are considered. All three could sell like gangbusters if done properly.
HeresSomeWeapons
Member
And if Triforce Heroes looked like it was running on 20 year old hardware.
Nintendo why? Your 30th anniversary for one of the biggest game characters ever and you do the equivalent of Capcom releasing Umbrella Corps...
Capcom has RE0 HD, RE456 ports/remasters, Umbrella Corps and RE7 for the 20th anniversary. This is like Capcom making Street Fighter x Mega Man an official release for Mega Man's 25th.
FloweryMarston
Member
I never played Prime 3. Her original ship is still in my mind.
then go play that game, if you are upset at this game, play the other prime games, they are really great
You really think Federation Force will be the last Metroid ever released or that there won't be any more mainline entries, ever?
Metroid will have (I'm assuming) Prime 4 or a Metroid V at some point.
The point is, franchises often put out a bad spin-off or two. There are almost no exceptions. It's not the end of the world.
*sigh* It did.
It wasn't a very visually impressive game. It was just fun with friends.
Portugeezer
Member
They didn't even try.
Well I mean, they probably did try, and this is all they came up with... let's throw Samus' ship for 10 seconds and loop around.
Well I mean, they probably did try, and this is all they came up with... let's throw Samus' ship for 10 seconds and loop around.
I can think of few games that were done as properly as F-Zero GX was, and it sold like crap. Hell, Sony dropped Wipeout like a bad habit and shows no signs of remorse, and those games did better than F-Zero for the most part.
Kowashitai
Banned
I don't know what else you could do to FZero that GX already didn't do, besides give it online play, to make it sell gangbusters.
If Nintendo really wants to revitalize these franchises, give them to Atlus to make more game like #FE. It's time for #F0 with Captain Falcon singing his theme song from GX while racing.
There are mainline top-down Zelda games like ALBW. So using Zelda here doesn't really work, it's not like there's been a mainline handheld Metroid over the past year or two.
LightOfTruth
Member
So fucking dumb.
Spieler Eins
Member
Current Nintendo shows zero respect for their fans, so why should fans show respect to them?
Ever since WiiU came out, their projects largely aimed at abandoning what core fans want and it's gotten especially bad since last year with Starfox, Amiibo Party, Sticker Star 2 and this travesty. Then there's ripping people off for the umpteenth time with new VC services that lack cross buy and other anti-consumer behaviour.
It's only natural that reactions are going to heat up. And shitting on yet another legacy IP like Metroid is obviously going to break the camel's back for many. Actual fans should complain, so Nintendo might at some point get their act together. Right now they are turning into an irrelevant joke whose only significant success this decade was made by a shovelware mobile dev using their IP. Staying silent, eating up insults like Federation Force, while having delusional hopes of secret megatons, is hurting the franchise even more. God knows what kind of crap the next Zelda would have been, if fans didn't point out major complaints of the previous titles.
I've played the demo, giving me a good understanding of the core controls, pace and game feel, and I'm someone who believes that most games can be very accurately judged from video evidence anyway.
'Someone might/will enjoy it' is a weak excuse for a bad game, and one that could be used for almost any mediocre game. The idea behind making games is to please as large an audience as possible either in totality or within a particular fanbase or genre niche. Nintendo isn't in the business of making games that appeal to a small minority. They've clearly fucked up here.
We clearly totally disagree on the idea of what constitutes a spin-off. ODST is not in any way shape or form a spin-off, and as to the bolded I disagree if those are the major gameplay features. If those are the same, the game isn't a spin-off. And Fed Force has more than a moderately similar control scheme to Prime. Having played the demo, I'd say it's about as close as you can get, adjusting for the fact that it's on 3DS.
But all those games you've mentioned were travesties that should not have been allowed to happen, and are worthy of the criticism and anger they received. What do you mean by 'get over themselves'? Accept shit products in their favourite series? I don't get what you're saying here at all.
And 'we survived Other M'? That game completely changed my relationship with the Metroid franchise. It spoiled it, basically. We didn't exactly get out of that one unscathed.
Sure. I get your point about patience. I wouldn't mind the wait so much if it wasn't filled with stuff trying to sell off the name, you know? Attempting to exploit the love for the franchise without actually delivering what made that love exist.
So I just hate it when they use their premier franchises in such a fashion and always have, even with Zelda and Mario. Save the wacky experimentation for new IP. If you're lucky, you'll pull a Splatoon, and Nintendo really needs to be creating more new IP.
Megawarrior
Member
Tragic. I don't know what I was expecting when I entered this thread but it definitely wasn't that.
Yep, at the title screen.
I honestly think a group of 4 people would have more fun playing Donkey Konga than FF.
You know what youre playing a gamecube already at that point, just pop in Prime 2 and do multiplayer in that.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
the release distance isnt as relevant as knowledge of a pending release. Breath of the Wild is known, that alone would satiate any anger towards zelda spinoffs. All anger at federation force is derived from the fact that no future for metroid games is known
Personally I think it's both. Zelda had both a Wii U title announced and had a mainline game released on the 3DS. Metroid's future is up in the air and the only incoming title is a... coop shooter spinoff. Had Metroid actually got a mainline game announcement and a mainline game actually released within the past few years I don't think anyone would give a shit either way about Federation Force.
The key word there is assuming. For now this is the only game on the horizon.
If Namco took six years to follow up Tekken 4 and it was Death by Degrees and there wasn't even a hint of Tekken 5, you'd be damn sure that fanbase would be pissed.
I never played Prime 3. Her original ship is still in my mind.
Play it. It's a great game (albeit the worst of the Prime trilogy IMO). The ship was redesigned as it was used in combat instead of just being a save point/ammo refilling point.
Linkstrikesback
Member
This, I can't even be angry about. Just indifferent. Of all the things I don't like about FF, this is pretty harmless.