Samus cameo in Federation Force revealed
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You're assuming that there will be a Prime IV, or Metroid V but when?
This could be the next new game to bear the Metroid name for the next 5 years, it's been nearly 10 years since Prime III, Nintendo's curent output doesn't inspire confidence that we're not going to be seeing a Prime IV untill 2021.
I understand where you're coming from but at the same time it took so long for Nintendo to make a new Star Fox game to...
Eh, I disagree. A lot of games give me tactile feedback that video alone doesn't.
Dark Souls and survival horror are great examples of games that, through video, I don't particularly think I could enjoy, and Demon's Souls was a disaster of a demo at its first E3 due to so few people "understanding" what the game was going for and just viewing it as a frustrating, unappealing slog. People needed more time with it and they needed to play it themselves in the right environment.
It's not officially OUT yet. You keep relying on the "it's a bad game" argument which, while it might be eventually be true, it also might not. It's like predicting that a film may or may not suck before you've seen it.
And some of Nintendo's best games only appeal to a small minority. There's not a huge market for games like Earthbound, F-Zero, Sin & Punishment, Punch Out!, Pikmin, Star Fox... Nintendogs alone sold more with one installment on DS than the entire Metroid franchise combined over 30 years. Nintendo is okay having huge successes in additional to moderate ones that appeal only to specific fans, just like a movie studio can release an arthouse film AND a blockbuster.
Federation Force has MULTIPLE control scheme options, including gyroscope and twin-stick aiming. Has there EVER been a Prime game with twin-stick aiming before?
Even the Halo wiki for ODST begins by labeling ODST as "A spin-off game using the Halo 3 engine and set during the time between Halo 2 and Halo 3, and was created by Bungie."
It's not a mainline entry, it has almost no bearing on the on-going Halo saga, it doesn't star the franchise's main character (he doesn't even cameo), it doesn't even star a Spartan... it's a spin-off.
That a single bad spin-off isn't the end of the world. This isn't a mainline Metroid. It's a spin-off.
Most sane people didn't put much stock into Death by Degrees or Special Forces or Castlevania Judgment or Resident Evil Survivor. They just ignored them altogether. It's surprisingly easy to do that. Saves energy and rage too that could better be directed at truly offensive things in gaming.
You made it sound like these bad games "ruined" their franchises, when those franchises survived, often without skipping a beat as soon as a proper installment dropped and everyone could have a good laugh over that time Vincent got his own Final Fantasy spin-off shooter game with a Gackt-cameo.
Hence "survived".
Wounds still hurt like hell, man. I feel you.
But even this "cameo" in Federation Force shows Samus saving the day and being awesome in a way the ENTIRETY of Other M failed to do in its entire playthrough.
I could (and have) rant endlessly about how offensive I found Other M from a social point of view.... but I also saved those judgments until I actually played and beat the game.
Welcome to Mega Man and Sonic fan's hell.
I would even say, as an old-school turn-based Final Fantasy fan, I haven't had THAT itch scratched since Final Fantasy X, really, and have had to make due with games like Lost Odyssey and Bravely Default.
... But I'm still going to try FFXV, because while it's not what I'd ask for, I'll judge it on its own merits. FFXIV wasn't what I wanted either, and I loathe MMOs, yet it surprised me with how great it became. I'm open-minded to try things I even at one point openly mocked and ridiculed.
Nintendo has actually created dozens of new IPs, mostly on portables, and some were hits and some weren't. Splatoon, Sakura Samurai, Dillon's Rolling Western, Pushmo, Codename STEAM, Art Academy, Brain Age, Nintendogs, Wii Fit, Rhythm Heaven, Elite Beat Agents, Xenoblade... a lot of new IPs these past 10 years or so.
... That said, all this being said, I do think Metroid deserves respect. Samus deserves respect. Metroid isn't just "another Nintendo game" or just another game at all. It's a genre-defining franchise. It's a progressive series that gave us one of gaming's most prominent and strong heroines. It's a game that pushed me to learn game design and pursue a career in game design and game creation. It's influential, important, and worthy of both accolades and reverence.
Nintendo can and should do better, absolutely.
But personally think Federation Force is just... inoffensive.
Wandering Robot
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I hadn't even thought of that.
I bet Tanabe didn't, either.
To be fair, this game's supposed to expand on the world outside Samus's exploits; Prime showing up would probably be amiss.
Ninja Scooter
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Good lord those graphics. The death of the 3DS can't come soon enough.
Judging by the Federation Force story trailer thread, the average is 2 copies per Gaffer so thing are looking pretty good so far for the sales.
Reading this part I guess we're on the same page in the end. Nintendo can and should do better. Let's hope they do so.
If so, Fed Force will certainly be forgotten and leave no stain in a way that Other M unfortunately didn't. If that's what you mean by inoffensive, yeah, I get it.
And I mean, if I want to be more fair rather than more angry I can point out that they've been facing a bit of a crisis in hardware sales and specifically turned to 'spin-offs' to bridge the gap. I don't like it as an excuse and think they should have experimented with new IP instead, but... at least there's this idea that if everything was going perfectly they'd be making better games, that they want to be making better games.
And we also can't deny that many Nintendo franchises have seen their high-water marks or near that on Wii U and 3DS. It's just that the Other M hurt is still strong, and I freely admit it makes me angry and emotional in a way that entertainment products really shouldn't.
Wasn't in Hunters. Metroid Prime: Hunters still rocked.
I do get it.
I have to work HARD to keep my own blistering rage for Other M in check. I just try and direct that disappointment and anger out in a productive way instead of just lashing out at a Metroid game that doesn't entirely wash that bad taste away.
Don't get me wrong though. If the NX is revealed and there is literally nothing Metroid-related whatsoever, and Federation Force is, indeed, the one and only game in the pipeline, I have a few Nintendo contacts I'll be dropping a strongly-worded letter to... just as I did after Other M.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
LOL
so much for excitement
so much for excitement
Says the person who goes to a list thread about topics that derail a thread to debate the definition of censorship.
You tell me about overreactions.
On topic, this is pretty underwhelming stuff but for all it's worth we've already known Samus wasn't the center of this game. I didn't expect too much when they said she'll appear in it in the first place given Federation Force seems to try to distance itself far from the other games, and honestly for all it's worth I actually prefer this over shoehorning her in.
//DEVIL//
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I jist watched the video. How can nintendo as a respected company allow it self to release this trash ? While somewhere else on the world a 1 guy us making heads with an action game using unreal 4 engine ?
I really never wish this to anyone but I honestly hope this game bomb so hard and nintendo actually bleed money from this project so they never insult us again with trash like this. For fucks sake it look worse than all their 3ds games they released 6 years ago
I really never wish this to anyone but I honestly hope this game bomb so hard and nintendo actually bleed money from this project so they never insult us again with trash like this. For fucks sake it look worse than all their 3ds games they released 6 years ago
Diablohead
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NESpowerhouse
Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
Krappadizzle
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Shifty
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My thoughts exactly.
Fuck it, the galactic federation is from the planet Lilliput. Problem solved, ship it.
Uuuughhhhh
Crimsonclaw111
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Lol this game looks bad in every way. I can't believe this isn't a mobile game instead.
woopWOOP
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lol
Not as much a Samus cameo as it's just her gunship, but hey.... better than.... nothing?
AuthenticM
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This image is so sad and depressing.
Triggerhappytel
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I just nearly chocked and coughed a bit of sandwich onto my desk after reading this, you bastard!
Don't blame 3DS, Capcom's been its hero! This artstyle is just that bad. Ten year old Hunters looks better on OG DS.
KeyBladerXIII
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I don't see what's wrong with this. It's a great cameo by a Smash Bros. character. By doing this, maybe she'll become popular enough to get her own game!
They could add Ridley too, since he was unable to be playable in Smash Wii U.
They could add Ridley too, since he was unable to be playable in Smash Wii U.
That's been much of the internet's drug of choice for quite a while now.
As someone who doesn't care for this game, give credit to Samus' cameo for reaffirming she's above this buffoonery, instantly KOing the opponent it takes several of your characters to even tickle and then disappearing like a badass.
Pretty much!
lwilliams3
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Ashler
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"The one thing I don't like about this cameo is that it's almost too good."
NOLA_Gaffer
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I am, though I'll likely wait for the holidays to bring around the Buy 2, Get 1 Free sales.
Link_enfant
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Samus be like "oh god what's this, I'm going back to AM2R".
Seriously, the best advice I could give about this game is as follows:
Please don't buy it. Or buy it used if you're really curious but it shouldn't be supported by your wallet in any way.
Instead, the day it's released show your support for the series by buying some of the Metroid games available on the eShop.
Happy anniversary anyway, Samus. I'm really glad you made it back to SR388 in AM2R
Seriously, the best advice I could give about this game is as follows:
Please don't buy it. Or buy it used if you're really curious but it shouldn't be supported by your wallet in any way.
Instead, the day it's released show your support for the series by buying some of the Metroid games available on the eShop.
Happy anniversary anyway, Samus. I'm really glad you made it back to SR388 in AM2R
Nah man. It skipped a single console generation so must be dead.
Orochinagis
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Didnt metroid prime were ignored for Other M?
Also Metroid prime 3, ship, the only ship with weapons, yay......
Well, samus is not really the start of Metroid series like Link to Zelda series but are there Metroids in the game?
Also Metroid prime 3, ship, the only ship with weapons, yay......
Well, samus is not really the start of Metroid series like Link to Zelda series but are there Metroids in the game?
I don't get the fixation on Samus with the backlash FF got.
A Metroid game, not even a spinoff, could work great even without Samus. Samus is not what makes Metroid Metroid to me. Its isolation, exploration, progress through new equipment. Everything else is a variable.
FF shits on what makes the franchise, but Samus is not a necessity, imo.
A Metroid game, not even a spinoff, could work great even without Samus. Samus is not what makes Metroid Metroid to me. Its isolation, exploration, progress through new equipment. Everything else is a variable.
FF shits on what makes the franchise, but Samus is not a necessity, imo.
The entire backlash at this game has been a giant overreaction
People really need to get over this fucking game; it reminds me of DmC with how fucking ridiculous people are being about it
I think this style of cameo is to codify her as an in-universe legend and hero. It's probably for the better that she's a background character in this context.
Probably because it takes place after Prime 3.
Davey Cakes
Member
It's a Nintendo game. It can't NOT be fun to a degree, right? It honestly can't be that bad, which is why people seem to be overreacting.
I have to draw a line for myself though. Sometimes I will buy a game in a series just to support that series. But there's no reason to buy Federation Force. It's not what I want out of something labeled "Metroid" so I don't want to encourage more games like it. It's not like I've bought every Metroid game at full price. I bought Other M for 8 bucks. I bought Prime MP Pinball for $10 used.
With FF, I just don't see any qualities that make me feel like I can play this game with my friends and have a lasting, quality experience. It's unappealing. It might not be horrible but it's not a looker, visually and gameplay wise it's not particularly exciting.
This is a "vote with your wallet" sort of situation. I'll save my money for a Metroid game that begs me to buy it Day 1.
I have to draw a line for myself though. Sometimes I will buy a game in a series just to support that series. But there's no reason to buy Federation Force. It's not what I want out of something labeled "Metroid" so I don't want to encourage more games like it. It's not like I've bought every Metroid game at full price. I bought Other M for 8 bucks. I bought Prime MP Pinball for $10 used.
With FF, I just don't see any qualities that make me feel like I can play this game with my friends and have a lasting, quality experience. It's unappealing. It might not be horrible but it's not a looker, visually and gameplay wise it's not particularly exciting.
This is a "vote with your wallet" sort of situation. I'll save my money for a Metroid game that begs me to buy it Day 1.
Falchion
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That's so bad yet so accurate.
But this is not about how it looks, it's about the cameo.
Orochinagis
Member
Thats her only ship with guns.