Walter Matthau
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They’re trying to change the narrative from Xbox being a failure to this new transition being some kind of strategy they’ve had all along.
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Satya: Being an Xbox fan means playing Xbox on "all of your devices"
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ZehDon
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Not likely. This is called adaptation, and its what businesses do. Xbox couldn't maintain its platform after Mattrick gutted it and Spencer failed to rebuild it. So, now its becoming something else. No one from Microsoft is claiming this is a 4D chess move on the cards since the OG Xbox. They're just adapting to what's happening. Microsoft have managed to do what neither Apple, Amazon, nor Google could do: get a foothold in the video game industry. They clearly don't want to let it go and are prepared to do whatever is necessary to keep it - including becoming a third party publisher.
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
The lamest thing about this forum is someone will be wrong about something but get 100 likes
but pointing out that you were right about something and you'll get shit on
its the small brain big brain meme in real time
Coloress_Kafka
Member
Hopefully you’re the all digital version, wouldn’t want a bunch of guys jamming their discs inside you.
sainraja
Member
Microsoft is trying to look to the future to redefine what gaming on Xbox is like. I just feel like it is a bit "too soon" since streaming games still isn't a very good alternative to simply downloading and playing your games. It needs to be like music streaming where it is just as easy to download or stream the music to the point where most people don't even care if they "own" their music.
Putting their games on all platforms is a bold move. A move I did not expect them to make. They've certainly tip toed their way to doing it and I think they are still playing it a little safe. They should always put out console hardware to set the stage for their ecosystem and then license out their "Xbox" platform (it is their DNA). If it is part PC, then it will just become very easy to do.
Putting their games on all platforms is a bold move. A move I did not expect them to make. They've certainly tip toed their way to doing it and I think they are still playing it a little safe. They should always put out console hardware to set the stage for their ecosystem and then license out their "Xbox" platform (it is their DNA). If it is part PC, then it will just become very easy to do.
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Drunkensamurai
Member
How hard is it just to say that the new plan for Xbox is 3rd party? Their messaging is terrible.
FunkMiller
Member
Oh, do get fucked. PC users have Steam, console gamers have Playstation and Nintendo, everybody else has IOS and Android.
You fucked it mate.
Time to just admit that and go third party with just games, before you waste any more money failing to take on the other platforms. Nobody wants to play using your shitty app.
You fucked it mate.
Time to just admit that and go third party with just games, before you waste any more money failing to take on the other platforms. Nobody wants to play using your shitty app.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Feb 15, 2024
Phil Spencer
"Four games. No promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming, please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming."
The only people calling Phil Spencer out are PlayStation fans. lol
Phil Spencer
"Four games. No promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming, please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming."
The only people calling Phil Spencer out are PlayStation fans. lol
DrFigs
Member
they're still trying to sell consoles... i think? it's hard to tell. but they're definitely still making them.
I wouldn't say so, considering how he said and formulated everything. They are already trying to sell Xbox not as a console but as a service for many devices.
As foretold in the great prophecy
Xbox as a console brand seems to be really dying lately can Scarlett change that or will it be a short lived project?
There was more hype around Xbox Scorpio than there is around Scarlett , Xbox One X started off with a nice push from Microsoft but it seems like they quickly gave up on it you can get a Xbox One X for $402 right now but no one seems to care that it's $97 off . You can get the Xbox One S A.D for...
Post in thread 'Xbox FY23 Q4 gaming revenue increased 1% year-over-year (HW down 13%)' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...r-over-year-hw-down-13.1659152/post-268225206
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
By the way I believe in the power of the cloud & think Microsoft has something amazing on the way they just have to sell it & not give up too soon because once it kicks into high gear the publishers like Epic & Take 2 will realize that they can do this on their own & sell the game/service directly.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
This statement is the easiest way to ease Xbox fans into the idea of MS becoming a full 3rd party publisher.
Like many said they would.
Like many said they would.
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Syphon Filter
Member
why ease and not just do it?
Syphon Filter
Member
cloud is poison since you dont own games.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
translation :
get used to play Xbox gamas on everything but an Xbox console.
get used to play Xbox gamas on everything but an Xbox console.
Fess
Member
That’s not Microsoft’s doing. For their ”This is an Xbox” ad to make sense they need to have an emulation layer for Xbox, 360, XB1, XBS games on all of the platforms they claim are Xboxes. Should have access to the same games as Series consoles, otherwise it’s not an Xbox since you need a real Xbox to play your previous purchased Xbox games.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
3rd party confirmed
You actually will own games but they will be in a digital locker,
Killjoy-NL
Banned
No idea, I would've just ripped off the band-aid.why ease and not just do it?
Maybe they want to make it look like a 4D chess play to shareholders primarily?
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
TheAmazingSpiderMan
Member
He probably never sat down and played an Xbox all his life.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Probably heard his (grand)kids beg for a Playstation.
Barakov
Member
They're really going all in on this. The ship has really sailed for them to act their act together.
Almost seems like they're trying to take the entire industry with them before they bow out. Won't work because everyone sees through 'everything is a xbox' slogan.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
the power of marketing will be a deciding factor
So it's the same as being a Atari, Sega or SNK. joining the group of failed console manufcaturers who still release games.
What your telling me is your a third party developer/publisher who will put their games on anything that moves. Except you want to somehow hold onto that subscription base and membership profits.
Such confusing messaging.
What your telling me is your a third party developer/publisher who will put their games on anything that moves. Except you want to somehow hold onto that subscription base and membership profits.
Such confusing messaging.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
mandatory:
i wonder how this "revelation" will impact such momentum and optimism.
i find fascinating that a lot of Xbox people were still under the illusion about only a few "case by case" games being ported to PS. Surely when Halo, Gear or Forza are announced there is not going to be drama, right?.
i wonder how this "revelation" will impact such momentum and optimism. i find fascinating that a lot of Xbox people were still under the illusion about only a few "case by case" games being ported to PS. Surely when Halo, Gear or Forza are announced there is not going to be drama, right?.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Being a Microsoft fan means giving up on security and privacy on all your devices.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
The bigger question will be when certain people will finally realize that the 'console-war' ended with the Xbox Business Update back in february?mandatory:
i find fascinating that a lot of Xbox people were still under the illusion about only a few "case by case" games being ported to PS. Surely when Halo, Gear or Forza are announced there is not going to be drama, right?.
Fess
Member
Have you used any cloud service?
I have and latency is actually not the big issue, it’s just what people always talk about. The real issue is the player queues. Having to wait in a queue to play a game instantly kills all hype for cloud gaming for me. Imagine having to wait in a queue to watch the next episode of Silo on Apple TV+. That’s where cloud gaming is around the release of new games. And Xbox cloud is also the lowest of the low of cloud gaming. Nvidia’s Geforce Now is fairly competent specs wise but it’s too expensive and they’re limiting playtime in an attempt to sort out queues, which are still there. It just doesn’t work. Yet.
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Dr. Suchong
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
chat GPT explaining the philosophy behind it.
From a philosophical point of view, this statement echoes the paradox of universality and ties closely to existentialist and semiotic ideas. Here's a breakdown:
In essence, the phrase suggests that overgeneralization leads to the erasure of uniqueness, rendering the concept void—a cautionary reflection on identity, categorization, and meaning.
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From a philosophical point of view, this statement echoes the paradox of universality and ties closely to existentialist and semiotic ideas. Here's a breakdown:
- Paradox of Universality:
The statement implies that if the term "Xbox" is applied universally to everything, it loses its distinctiveness and meaning. This aligns with the philosophical notion that concepts need boundaries to retain their identity. Without differentiation, a term becomes void of specificity, collapsing its own definition. - Semiotics (Study of Signs and Meaning):
Language and meaning depend on contrast. For "Xbox" to mean something, it must be distinct from "PlayStation," "Nintendo," or even non-gaming objects. If everything is labeled "Xbox," the term ceases to function as a meaningful signifier. - Existentialist Angle:
The statement reflects how identity is defined in relation to others. For example, in Sartrean philosophy, objects and beings derive meaning through their difference and context. Without contrast, the concept of "Xbox" as a unique entity dissolves into absurdity. - Comparative Notion in Ontology:
Ontologically, the statement touches on the idea that existence is defined through relationships. If "Xbox" lacks boundaries (because it applies to everything), it undermines its essence as a distinct category of being.
In essence, the phrase suggests that overgeneralization leads to the erasure of uniqueness, rendering the concept void—a cautionary reflection on identity, categorization, and meaning.
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such a simple slogan has so much profound weigh behind it. Just like "Beta Tested In The Future".
ChorizoPicozo
Member
imposible, they only have short term memory. (unless when taking about psygnosis and how Sony bought them like 30 years ago or something like that).
That's because they're taking the wrong approach, in my opinion it should be used like the arcade back in the day giving people something that they can't get at home yet & not as a replacement for home consoles.
Get with Sega or Capcom have them make games that's not on home consoles yet & charge to play the game for a few years until home consoles are powerful enough to run the game natively.
Nitty_Grimes
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