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Satya: Being an Xbox fan means playing Xbox on "all of your devices"

Robb

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Parazels

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As foretold in the great prophecy

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Post in thread 'Xbox FY23 Q4 gaming revenue increased 1% year-over-year (HW down 13%)' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...r-over-year-hw-down-13.1659152/post-268225206
I appreciate your ingenious predictions.

But please, add some picture to your account.
 
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Sunkrest

Neo Member
I wonder if that will influence their competition in any way. Game pass was downplayed by Sony and now both PlayStation and Nintendo have their own subscription based libraries. Maybe their shareholders wanted them to create that revenue stream. Same could be said about porting games to PC...

I wouldn't be surprised if its a start of wide industry shift. Unlike the big guys we don't have the data to make any educated guess on how releasing your products on different platforms influences your own console ecosystem. We can only guess.
 

onQ123

Member
I wonder if that will influence their competition in any way. Game pass was downplayed by Sony and now both PlayStation and Nintendo have their own subscription based libraries. Maybe their shareholders wanted them to create that revenue stream. Same could be said about porting games to PC...

I wouldn't be surprised if its a start of wide industry shift. Unlike the big guys we don't have the data to make any educated guess on how releasing your products on different platforms influences your own console ecosystem. We can only guess.
Sony had PlayStation Now since 2014
 

Ozzie666

Member
You know that’s the CEO of Microsoft, right?

That doesn't say much since most his comments historically show he has no fucking clue about gaming or the console industry. He's propped up by other Microsofts succesfull long running and tested strategies. Gaming is an after thought. Unless he is playing 4D chess and has some grand plan, but I doubt it.
 

onQ123

Member
That doesn't say much since most his comments historically show he has no fucking clue about gaming or the console industry. He's propped up by other Microsofts succesfull long running and tested strategies. Gaming is an after thought. Unless he is playing 4D chess and has some grand plan, but I doubt it.


This is the smartest move Xbox has made since Kinect , they let the hardcore fans punk them out of going all in on Kinect & now Amazon & Google is enjoying the hands free smart home benefits.
 

onQ123

Member
Who killed more concole competitors, Sony or Nintendo?
It was always PlayStation, Nintendo let Atari linger around with all there mishaps but PlayStation came & cleaned house , Jaguar was done , Nintendo let Sega play around PlayStation came & slapped Saturn around like a bitch then killed Dreamcast with the shadow of PS2 coming , even Nintendo had to duck direct competition with PlayStation home consoles. Wii & Switch are the results of playing it smart bringing something different to the table instead of going head to head with PlayStation in the console market.

Xbox flew too close to the Sun
 

Fess

Member
That's because they're taking the wrong approach, in my opinion it should be used like the arcade back in the day giving people something that they can't get at home yet & not as a replacement for home consoles.

Get with Sega or Capcom have them make games that's not on home consoles yet & charge to play the game for a few years until home consoles are powerful enough to run the game natively.
They’re already there on Geforce Now, you’ll have to pay $3k or something like that to have the same visual fidelity at home and that’s far beyond home consoles.

But if they reached above even enthusiast PC gaming, yeah maybe, then they could possibly have a selling point, assuming it’s not as expensive as it is today ($20/month for GFN Ultimate)
 

onQ123

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They’re already there on Geforce Now, you’ll have to pay $3k or something like that to have the same visual fidelity at home and that’s far beyond home consoles.

But if they reached above even enthusiast PC gaming, yeah maybe, then they could possibly have a selling point, assuming it’s not as expensive as it is today ($20/month for GFN Ultimate)
But GeForce Now is still renting you PC games that you could play at home the key would be giving people something they couldn't get at home.

RockStar or Epic will probably pull a move like this with the next GTA or Fortnite spinoffs.
 
Probably during their next "not-E3 showcase."

I also think PlayStation fans will also get one or two surprises during their January Direct. All of this chatter is obviously in preparation for what's to come soon.
Phil's comments of "no red lines" was even more of an indicator of how soon new ports will be announced. I don't think he would have said that unless stuff was immediately on the horizon. I'm guessing January, but probably not at their yearly direct. That would be overly cruel to their fanbase if start dropping PS5 monikers at their own Directs. It will happen eventually, but not yet, imo
 
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Heisenberg007

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Phil's comments of "no red lines" was even more of an indicator of how soon new ports will be announced. I don't think he would have said that unless stuff was immediately on the horizon. I'm guessing January, but probably not at their yearly direct. That would be overly cruel to their fanbase if start dropping PS5 monikers at their own Directs. It will happen eventually, but not yet, imo
Exactly this. My guess was The Game Awards. They didn't announce any big one there, but they did walk back on The Outer Worlds 2 exclusivity and announced that it's launching day one on PS5. So it was at least something.

And this just means that bigger games have yet to come, and they will be announced soon.
 
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Rubim

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Xbox is no longer a console, but a "platform". They need to stop saying, "Everything is an Xbox," and start saying, "Xbox is on everything." That would make more sense.
Oh my god.
It's so weird how changing the words but meaning the same can make a whole lot different.

That actully sounds way better.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
It would be less painful if they openly shut down their hardware division and transitioned to publishing games and offering GP on more devices, rather than pissing people off and clearly failing to convince them it's a good strategy and that they were planning it for a long time. They didn't, it's a very desperate move.
 

Killjoy-NL

Banned
I wonder if that will influence their competition in any way. Game pass was downplayed by Sony and now both PlayStation and Nintendo have their own subscription based libraries. Maybe their shareholders wanted them to create that revenue stream. Same could be said about porting games to PC...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Playstation first with PS Now?

Edit:

PS Now was launched on January 28, 2014.

GamePass launched on June 1, 2017.
 
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Seider

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The "This is a Xbox" and "Everything is a Xbox" campaign is damage control for all the Microsoft games that are going to arrive to Playstation 5.

Xbox fans are going to enfuriate and Microsoft knows it.
 
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Sony

Nintendo
If you define Xbox as a publisher - which they increasingly are - then the quote makes sense.
I think people need to accept that Xbox is becoming a publisher and has their own devices as well.
Xbox consoles are becoming the Kindle, the Firestick, the Surface etc.
I grew up with Xbox so personally I don't like that development but if it helps then holding their head above the water against the behemoth that is Sony...
 
I don't understand the strategy of microsoft/xbox anymore. I truly think that they're in desperation mode and just throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks because they're out of ideas. I think call of duty on gamepass was truly the last strategy they had to grow gamepass and now that it's failed they know they're screwed and pivoting.


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Gamepass isnt going anywhere, imo. If it did, there would be a mass exodus of their userbase. Microsoft has invested in gaming for the upcoming decades, expecting to see growth. They are not going to overly react to stagnating Gamepass numbers, right now. It would create terrible backlash for anything they would plan to achieve in the future
 
So it means one of two things:
1. ”Xbox” doesn’t really mean anything onwards, other than being logged onto their network.
2. It is fully virtual from now on.

This is them trying to steer off the exodus.
 
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Ozriel

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That doesn't say much since most his comments historically show he has no fucking clue about gaming or the console industry. He's propped up by other Microsofts succesfull long running and tested strategies. Gaming is an after thought. Unless he is playing 4D chess and has some grand plan, but I doubt it.

They put themselves on collision courts with regulators and spent $70bn to buy a gaming company. Revenue wise, Microsoft gaming now brings in a significant amount to MS earnings.

Gaming isn’t an ‘afterthought’ at MS at all.


You know he has himself removed Gamepass sub growth as part of his compensation when they couldn’t reach the numbers they wanted?

Yes. An internal performance metric. That’s what the CEO does.
The person I was responding to seemed to confuse Spencer’s role with Nadella’s.
 

Darsxx82

Member
It's MS's big problem. Two decades and they has not yet realized that fans are not created according to their needs, fans are earned by offering them what they want.

It's good and interesting to update yourself to the new generations and situations in the industry, but with formulas where you maintain your fans and their loyalty.

That Xbox marketing campaign doesn't do it. This campaign only creates the feeling that fans and loyal fans of XBOX consoles are a kind of third category among Xbox users.

That Santya dares to make these statements defining what is an Xbox fan when before he never went into Xbox issues... says a lot about who decides on Xbox today.
 
Why not simplify it in like plain English without any bullshit
Microsoft is a 3rd party publisher ?
Sometimes I feel like we are in a simulation these motherfukers can't be this lvl of stupid.
They actually could've given playstation some serious competition this gen but they raised the white flag and went full retard with everything is an Xbox.
Keep in mind this is the same guy that killed windows phone and now single handedly killed Xbox too
 

spons

Gold Member
He shouldn't conflate "fan" with "revenue streams". I get that Microsoft now gets profit from Game Pass, as well as streaming, etc. on different screens, but I'm not going to be a different kind of fan because of it.
 

SkylineRKR

Member
MS is trying to move away from consoles as quietly as possible. They are training their consumers to get used to the fact their software is everywhere and its actually a big plus you can sign in on every device.

It wasn't their narrative when this console race started (Series X had most teraflops etc), but they are forced to play their hand like it is right now. They don't move hardware, they are stuck with a ton of studios and IP with a lot of selling potential. They need to get their software out to pretty much every device out there.

Xbox as a console brand is dead. They do seem to skip a Series X upgrade this time. I wonder when they will deliver the killshot.
 

kaizenkko

Member
It's crazy to think that these big corpo don't understand what their audience really wants. What Microsoft will get of all this is just eliminate ever single person who still believes in their brand.
 

baphomet

Member
The funny thing is I'm sure MS have attempted to pay hundreds of millions, if not billions, to get Sony to allow Game Pass on PlayStation. Same for Nintendo.
 
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