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[Vio-Lence]

So we are going to have to rationalize this fuckery with not all Muslims.

The mother load of bad ideas is right on the money.

 

[Despera]

I'm curious, how was it proven that the stepmother did it (and not the father or someone else)?

Just to put things into perspective, the murder was committed 4 years ago.

During the investigation the neighbors and other eye witnesses within the community spoke of how the woman would regularly beat up the kid pretty badly throughout the years, and how the father was okay with it.

The family is very poor, as are many others within the Burmese community of Mecca. Their home was nothing but a single room they all lived in. The neighbors can pretty much hear anything that goes on around them. Some of the neighbors say there were times they could hear the agonizing cries of the child that were beyond "an average beating". At times the father would be away from his home while this happened, when the neighbors tried reaching out to him he would always tell them not to intervene.

The biological mother of the child tried to gain custody of the girl, but since this community's issues are often overlooked nothing happened for years.

Basically, the complaints against this woman accumulated over the years, as clarified by a Burmese community rep. During the investigation both the father and stepmother claimed that she was the biological mother of the child (as if that would help their case in any way). They also found a few of the tools she used to beat up the kid with. All with her fingerprints and some with traces of the girl's blood, including the broom stick that was used as the murder weapon.

I guess at some point it became pretty clear who did what. Government officials are also to blame for not acting sooner and taking this matter seriously.

 

[RustyNails]

Just to put things into perspective, the murder was committed 4 years ago.

During the investigation the neighbors and other eye witnesses within the community spoke of how the woman would regularly beat up the kid pretty badly throughout the years, and how the father was okay with it.

The family is very poor, as are many others within the Burmese community of Mecca. Their home was nothing but a single room they all lived in. The neighbors can pretty much hear anything that goes on around them. Some of the neighbors say there were times they could hear the agonizing cries of the child that were beyond "an average beating". At times the father would be away from his home while this happened, when the neighbors tried reaching out to him he would always tell them not to intervene.

The biological mother of the child tried to gain custody of the girl, but since this community's issues are often overlooked nothing happened for years.

Basically, the complaints against this woman accumulated over the years, as clarified by a Burmese community rep. During the investigation both the father and stepmother claimed that she was the biological mother of the child (as if that would help their case in any way). They also found a few of the tools she used to beat up the kid with. All with her fingerprints and some with traces of the girl's blood, including the broom stick that was used as the murder weapon.

I guess at some point it became pretty clear who did what. Government officials are also to blame for not acting sooner and taking this matter seriously.

Thank you for this. I tried to find more information but this the most detailed explanation yet. I blame the father too in this case as he turned a blind eye.

 

[Nesotenso]

So we are going to have to rationalize this fuckery with not all Muslims.

The mother load of bad ideas is right on the money.

what the fuck are you on about?

 

[RustyNails]

So it was proven that this woman has severely beat up and raped her 7 yo step daughter. We are talking both vaginal and anal forced penetration with a broom stick here people.

The girl was being beat up for 4 years (yes from the age of 3). Her father received a 20 year jail sentence for allowing this shit to happen (yes the father was aware of what was going on, but allowed it to happen because the girl "needed to be disciplined").

The step mother overdid it this time which lead to the girl's death. There are further details to this case.

While the government may have committed a lot of heinous crimes against humanity, in this case I can't say I disagree with the punishment both the father and stepmother received.

Here's a picture of the girl in the hospital: http://i.imgur.com/meaRDYs.jpg

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

 

[markot]

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

What part of that makes beheading a woman in public ok?

 

[Komo]

Maybe she should refrain from raping he daughters with broomsticks till death.

Also, what part of the execution was brutal? If I had a choice between decapitation and electrocution, I'd choose decapitation all day every day.

aren't you that guy who defends Saudi Arabia no matter what disgusting things they do?

 

[Trouble]

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

It doesn't make hacking someone's head off in public any less barbaric.

 

[Kenshin001]

Just to put things into perspective, the murder was committed 4 years ago.

During the investigation the neighbors and other eye witnesses within the community spoke of how the woman would regularly beat up the kid pretty badly throughout the years, and how the father was okay with it.

The family is very poor, as are many others within the Burmese community of Mecca. Their home was nothing but a single room they all lived in. The neighbors can pretty much hear anything that goes on around them. Some of the neighbors say there were times they could hear the agonizing cries of the child that were beyond "an average beating". At times the father would be away from his home while this happened, when the neighbors tried reaching out to him he would always tell them not to intervene.

The biological mother of the child tried to gain custody of the girl, but since this community's issues are often overlooked nothing happened for years.

Basically, the complaints against this woman accumulated over the years, as clarified by a Burmese community rep. During the investigation both the father and stepmother claimed that she was the biological mother of the child (as if that would help their case in any way). They also found a few of the tools she used to beat up the kid with. All with her fingerprints and some with traces of the girl's blood, including the broom stick that was used as the murder weapon.

I guess at some point it became pretty clear who did what. Government officials are also to blame for not acting sooner and taking this matter seriously.

Well that's pretty fucked up. I think the problem is the Saudi justice system is not renowned for its transparency so people just automatically jump to conclusions, especially when a foreigner is involved. Don't think dragging the screaming perpetrator through the streets and then taking three goes to hack her head off in public sets a good example to the Muslim world though.

 

[Xcellere]

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

Same place they were before: Somewhere where beheading a woman in public is barbaric behavior, irregardless of what she did.

I don't see why it's so hard to fathom that someone can be against both state-sanctioned beheadings and people who abuse children. Both are fucked up beyond reproach.

 

[Skyzard]

The story behind it is awful but that's still a disgraceful execution.

So we are going to have to rationalize this fuckery with not all Muslims.

The mother load of bad ideas is right on the money.

what the fuck are you on about?

.

 

[mario_O]

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

Still here, still completely disgusted. And I don't trust this Sharia Law courts, not a single bit. Just have to look at the recent case of the blogger imprisoned for 10 years and 1.000 lashes for critizicing Islam. Its not a justice court, its a charade.

Just to put things into perspective, the murder was committed 4 years ago.

During the investigation the neighbors and other eye witnesses within the community spoke of how the woman would regularly beat up the kid pretty badly throughout the years, and how the father was okay with it.

The family is very poor, as are many others within the Burmese community of Mecca. Their home was nothing but a single room they all lived in. The neighbors can pretty much hear anything that goes on around them. Some of the neighbors say there were times they could hear the agonizing cries of the child that were beyond "an average beating". At times the father would be away from his home while this happened, when the neighbors tried reaching out to him he would always tell them not to intervene.

The biological mother of the child tried to gain custody of the girl, but since this community's issues are often overlooked nothing happened for years.

Basically, the complaints against this woman accumulated over the years, as clarified by a Burmese community rep. During the investigation both the father and stepmother claimed that she was the biological mother of the child (as if that would help their case in any way). They also found a few of the tools she used to beat up the kid with. All with her fingerprints and some with traces of the girl's blood, including the broom stick that was used as the murder weapon.

I guess at some point it became pretty clear who did what. Government officials are also to blame for not acting sooner and taking this matter seriously.

And the source? I suppose it's the same people that chopped her head off, right? I'm sorry but I just don't trust this religious courts.

 

[PopeReal]

Where are all the "poor woman!" posters now who immediately jumped to her defense for an opportunity to shit on the country. She brutalized her step daughter for 4 fucking years since she was 3, my God.

You can't read I guess. People had a problem with beheading someone in public. And a lack of faith in her getting a fair trial.

 

[RustyNails]

It doesn't make hacking someone's head off in public any less barbaric.

Two different issues. First one was that posters automatically assuming the woman was innocent, and thus a grave injustice was carried out. Cue in "fuck those savages" posts. I wished people stopped and thought what if she really did carry out those crimes instead of a knee jerk fuck Saudi Arabia stuff. Don't get me wrong, KSA is a blackhole of human rights. But at least in this particular case, I really can't find any sympathy for the perps.

Second issue is whether a public execution should happen or not. I'm against public executions, but cases like these really test my resolve. If someone did something like that to my kid, lets just say I wont be in favor of rehabilitation. Again, had the government responded sooner to the biological mothers' request, this whole sordid affair could have been avoided. So I partly blame the government for the mess too.

 

[GSG Flash]

Still here, still completely disgusted. And I don't trust this Sharia Law courts, not a single bit. Just have to look at the recent case of the blogger imprisoned for 10 years and 1.000 lashes for critizicing Islam. Its not a justice court, its a charade.




And the source? I suppose it's the same people that chopped her head off, right? I'm sorry but I just don't trust this religious courts.

Was just going to say, need a source, not going to take Despera's word just for the sake of it.

I did a Google search for Layla bint Abdul Mutaleb Bassim but wasn't able to find any related news articles from prior to last week, let alone from four years ago, which is when the murder allegedly happened.

 

[markot]

Two different issues. First one was that posters automatically assuming the woman was innocent, and thus a grave injustice was carried out. Cue in "fuck those savages" posts. I wished people stopped and thought what if she really did carry out those crimes instead of a knee jerk fuck Saudi Arabia stuff. Don't get me wrong, KSA is a blackhole of human rights. But at least in this particular case, I really can't find any sympathy for the perps.

Second issue is whether a public execution should happen or not. I'm against public executions, but cases like these really test my resolve. If someone did something like that to my kid, lets just say I wont be in favor of rehabilitation. Again, had the government responded sooner to the biological mothers' request, this whole sordid affair could have been avoided. So I partly blame the government for the mess too.

No. The grave injustice was the 'punishment'. Her innocence or guilt is irrelevant.

Its the public execution that people have a problem with.

"Fuck those savages" is an appropriate response to this sort of act.

 

[m_shortpants]

I think the issue boils down to:

A trial, or lack thereof
Whether or not you support capital punishment in the form of a death penalty
And what you consider to be an appropriate method of execution

I've seen a video of a proper government execution in Saudi Arabia for one of those idiots who was drifting in a sideshow and killed someone. All I'll say was that it was quick. And I don't think any more barbaric than a firing squad, hanging, or lethal injection for that matter.

 

[markot]

I think the issue boils down to:

A trial, or lack thereof
Whether or not you support capital punishment in the form of a death penalty
And what you consider to be an appropriate method of execution

I've seen a video of a proper government execution in Saudi Arabia for one of those idiots who was drifting in a sideshow and killed someone. All I'll say was that it was quick. And I don't think any more barbaric than a firing squad, hanging, or lethal injection for that matter.

Doing it in public by definition makes it more barbaric. It is also alot more 'impactful' on the audience.

 

[Despera]

And the source? I suppose it's the same people that chopped her head off, right? I'm sorry but I just don't trust this religious courts.

Was just going to say, need a source, not going to take Despera's word just for the sake of it.

I did a Google search for Layla bint Abdul Mutaleb Bassim but wasn't able to find any related news articles from prior to last week, let alone from four years ago, which is when the murder allegedly happened.

Fair enough.

Searching in English will probably turn up nothing since most articles are in arabic. If you understand arabic though, then here's an article on alhayat newspaper's website.

They interviewed people from the Burmese community, including its president and representative, Mr. Abdullah Al-Arkani. They basically did their own investigation and go into further detail.

Correction: The murder occurred 5 years ago actually upon checking the dates.

 

[Fried Food]

I haven't watched one of these execution/murder videos since the old bowee knife video

I see no reason to watch someone's life be ended in such a heinous way

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

Doing it in public by definition makes it more barbaric. It is also alot more 'impactful' on the audience.

It was also botched. It took 3 slashes for her to finally be decapitated.

 

[Spineker]

Tu quoque.

That seems like a convenient little out for blatant hypocrisies

 

[Madness]

This was definitely an inhumane execution. Not only is she dragged across the street to a busy intersection where crowds are gathered and cars are. But she is then roughly grabbed by her hair and tried to be silenced. Then finally, it takes 3 whacks with a quite dull looking sword for her to die, almost like a butcher.

Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that still uses decapitation as a punishment. Qatar, Iran and Yemen also allow it but do not practice it.

 

[jorma]

Ha, I missed that. It makes total sense. Only someone who benefits from having extreme privilege enshrined in law could so blindly defend this.

Wouldn't that include the huge section of gaf who defends the death penalty in general? Because that's the part that makes you a savage - murdering your citizens in seclusion doesn't turn it into a civilised process.

 

[Osahi]

This was definitely an inhumane execution.

Humane and execution do not compute

 

[Siegcram]

That seems like a convenient little out for blatant hypocrisies

More like a dismissal for stupid equivalency that's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

 

[Lumicide]

what the fuck are you on about?

I believe it's from a Sam Harris quote on Bill Maher's show. He, and Bill, conveniently forget about the Old Testament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60

I'm 90% sure it's in there. However, I didn't watch it again to confirm it.

 

[archnemesis]

I'm 90% sure it's in there. However, I didn't watch it again to confirm it.

Your memory is correct. The quote can be found at 2:15.

 

[Montresor]

Remember: This is a US ally.

 

[spekkeh]

Good thing we're boycotting those immoral russkis.

 

[Derwind]

Remember: This is a US ally.

US foreign policy is scum. Money and Oil mean everything.

 

[Syntsui]

We have to respect their sovereignity and how they apply their laws... You know what? Fuck that shit, this is the kind of punishment I will never agree with, on whatever the country be with whatever the crime is.

Beyond disgusting and barbarian.

 

[FiggyCal]

I think the issue boils down to:

A trial, or lack thereof
Whether or not you support capital punishment in the form of a death penalty
And what you consider to be an appropriate method of execution

I've seen a video of a proper government execution in Saudi Arabia for one of those idiots who was drifting in a sideshow and killed someone. All I'll say was that it was quick. And I don't think any more barbaric than a firing squad, hanging, or lethal injection for that matter.

I think capital punishment is incredibly immoral but it's still acceptable in most US states. I've seen some Saudi Arabian behadings that was just one swipe of the sword; and in the US we had an execution where it took the man almost an hour to die -- apparently while groaning and writhing presumably in pain. I don't know if I would consider that more humane.

 

[Siegcram]

I think capital punishment is incredibly immoral but it's still acceptable in most US states. I've seen some Saudi Arabian behadings that was just one swipe of the sword; and in the US we had an execution where it took the man almost an hour to die -- apparently while groaning and writhing presumably in pain. I don't know if I would consider that more humane.

The death penalty is by definition not humane, however you do it.

 

[kmax]

As someone who is staunchly against capital punishment in all forms, this is absolutely horrific.

I honestly hope that many countries that practices this barbarism, join the rest of the free world and abolishes it.

 

[jimbobsmells]

Maybe she should refrain from raping he daughters with broomsticks till death.

Also, what part of the execution was brutal? If I had a choice between decapitation and electrocution, I'd choose decapitation all day every day.

I assume the part where they hack her head off in public, but I can't be sure.

 

[Kenshin001]

I think the issue boils down to:

A trial, or lack thereof
Whether or not you support capital punishment in the form of a death penalty
And what you consider to be an appropriate method of execution

I've seen a video of a proper government execution in Saudi Arabia for one of those idiots who was drifting in a sideshow and killed someone. All I'll say was that it was quick. And I don't think any more barbaric than a firing squad, hanging, or lethal injection for that matter.

It also boils down to whether you think the criminal should be dragged screaming through the streets and have their head hacked off in public.

 

[Trouble]

Wouldn't that include the huge section of gaf who defends the death penalty in general? Because that's the part that makes you a savage - murdering your citizens in seclusion doesn't turn it into a civilised process.

I wholeheartedly agree.