Wait, this movie is actually coming? wut wut
ScarJo takes lead role in GHOST IN THE SHELL
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Wait, this movie is actually coming? wut wut
Finaika
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WTF?!
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Dice//
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I honestly can't wait for this flick. I'd like to think the concept works really well even across formats or regions (i.e.; say compared to some magical girl anime). Yes it sucks Scar Jo is white and leading, and I hope at the very least there can be some meaningful Asian supporting characters/extras, and looking forward to it.
Congrats Skux for being cast! Let us know any cool deets if you can.
Congrats Skux for being cast! Let us know any cool deets if you can.
Are you Japanese?
Finaika
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You want to see ScarJo nude?
ipitydatfu
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already happened
Unknown Soldier
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Is this going to be PG-13 and shitty or will they grow a pair and actually go for the R rating
Northeastmonk
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Frontal nudity made the film a masterpiece. That's not even in a sexual way. I saw the film when I was 12 or so on a VHS copy I got for the holidays. What's sad is that my folks nor my sister knew what they contained. I also got Akira boxed tape edition and Ninja Scroll.
I say nudity because the film already has a great science fiction tone to it. I didn't watch the series after that, Stand alone complex. I just want the role done right, same with an Akira movie. They need to be R. They need adult tones, graphic violence, and good acting. Otherwise we only get a fraction of what made it great in the first place.
I like Scarlet Johansen as an actor. She is beautiful and fun to watch. I own Lucy and it's good minus being very straightforward film to watch.
She could do it, but her hair would need to be dark or they'd have to reimagine the character. I think it'll be more shocking than Olivia Munn as Psylocke. It's going to be interesting when we get to see her. It's hard imaging an amazing anime as a film. Of course there have been a few, but Kite isn't something I'd watch either way.
I own Harlock, but the dubbing is atrocious at times. I need to go back to it. Classic anime lives on in the spirit of those who witnessed it years ago. For someone else, this is their introductory course.
I say nudity because the film already has a great science fiction tone to it. I didn't watch the series after that, Stand alone complex. I just want the role done right, same with an Akira movie. They need to be R. They need adult tones, graphic violence, and good acting. Otherwise we only get a fraction of what made it great in the first place.
I like Scarlet Johansen as an actor. She is beautiful and fun to watch. I own Lucy and it's good minus being very straightforward film to watch.
She could do it, but her hair would need to be dark or they'd have to reimagine the character. I think it'll be more shocking than Olivia Munn as Psylocke. It's going to be interesting when we get to see her. It's hard imaging an amazing anime as a film. Of course there have been a few, but Kite isn't something I'd watch either way.
I own Harlock, but the dubbing is atrocious at times. I need to go back to it. Classic anime lives on in the spirit of those who witnessed it years ago. For someone else, this is their introductory course.
Northeastmonk
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Im terribly sorry, I'm on my phone so I think I posted twice. I'm having spotty Internet atm
A casting call went out a few weeks ago for "all ethnicities". News article here, film is being shot in New Zealand early next year.
thetrin
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Excuse my ignorance but why does it need to he an Asian actress?
Based off that any white actress could play her. Scarlett Jo seems like a great fit.
Hahah what?! It's about Japanese agents in Japan.
Considering what has happened to America in the GITS universe, they'd have to change the universe significantly.
Eh after Japan reverse-white washing Attack on Titan I don't feel bad about Hollywood white washing a movie of their own 
Not that I have any problem with white washing mangas or anime anyways, I don't think most manga have an artstyle that conveys most characters would HAVE to be played by an asian actor.
Not that I have any problem with white washing mangas or anime anyways, I don't think most manga have an artstyle that conveys most characters would HAVE to be played by an asian actor.
It's uh.. happening?A casting call went out a few weeks ago for "all ethnicities". News article here, film is being shot in New Zealand early next year.
Just to be clear, it was a heavily criticised move and the movies have been torn to shreds for being complete garbage.Eh after Japan reverse-white washing Attack on Titan I don't feel bad about Hollywood white washing a movie of their own
Not that I have any problem with white washing mangas or anime anyways, I don't think most manga have an artstyle that conveys most characters would HAVE to be played by an asian actor.
In a way they reversed it as the only non-japanese actor in the film plays Mikasa.
twinturbo2
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Tekomandor
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I forgot that GITS is R in America. I feel like this is going to be another Die Hard situation, where the rest of the world is gonna get a censored version because PG13 is a weak ass rating.
Worst censorship in Australia is American, despite our own government's best efforts.
Succinct Verbosity
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You aren't going to get full frontal nudity. In a way, the only scene where i thought nudity added anything was the opening credits anyway. Showing the birth of a machine works far better with nudity than without it, but we wont get that either.
that's never going to happen. looking at the people attached to the project and what Hollywood is like today, I give this a 0.2% chance of not being disgustingly horrible.
immortal-joe
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Was hoping the thread got bumbed because they got a new director/lead actress.
Would be a new thread. I feel the pain though
dark_inferno
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Hollywood has a hard time with dystopian scifi movies. I dont belive that this will be even watchable. At least not with this director.
Shit some more on Anime fans Hollywood, please i beg you.
Shit some more on Anime fans Hollywood, please i beg you.
eot
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I don't agree at all, I think the nudity in the film is more distracting than anything. It could've had a place, but they ruined it by trying to make it sexual. It comes off as the animators being pervs.
Whether or not ScarJo shows her boobs is going to have zero impact on how good this movie is. The odds of it being good are slim anyway. That she's involved at all means it's probably going to be some by the numbers shit. To do the animated film justice it should essentially be Blade Runner, and who's going to make a movie like that? It would take a miracle, like how the LOTR movies actually turned out well. Fuck this thing in advance.
dark_inferno
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Im not sure what you mean. But i think the first time where she was nude was pretty reasonable (to be invisible).
Dont know if there was more.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Wow. WOW. I guess every fair-skinned anime character is appropriated as white in your eyes, eh? See, that's exactly the problem. People seeing things in such a black-and-white (literally) way that there can't be any in-between with them. "Ah she's got light skin, she HAS to be white!" That's just more racism, whether you're too aloof to understand it or not.Excuse my ignorance but why does it need to he an Asian actress?
Based off that any white actress could play her. Scarlett Jo seems like a great fit.
Her name is Major Kusanagi. She's Japanese. I'm sure there are talented Japanese or Asian female actresses in the U.S right now that could use a role like this as their big break. But instead, it's going to a white woman who already has an established career, and wouldn't have any trouble finding another action film role if this one went to someone else.
It's like the Emma Stone stuff all over again and opinions like yours are rancid, indirectly helping to support these kind of whitewashed casting decisions. You should feel bad about that.
It's gonna be some PG family romantic comedy bs, just wait and see.
Well, you have the one scene where she's literally being born, being nude makes sense for the imagery there.
Then you have other scenes where the nudity mostly shows how much connection to humanity the Major has already lost. Feelings like shame are completely beyond her. It's similar to the naked Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen.
Hollywood going for a female-led action movie is already surprising...
.. There's no way they'd go for a non-white, too.
I think he means the scene when she jumps off the building. There isn't really a point to the nudity there except as a nod to Shirow Masamune's oil girl hentai.
I'm hoping this very thing happens.
eot
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Maybe sexual isn't the right word, but I have a problem with this argument:
I think this could work, the problem is that in for example the "making of a cyborg" scene they do a slow, extended pan of her boobs. If the point is to show the detachment between the body and the mind, then don't draw attention to her body in that way. You're making the audience feel the opposite thing of what you're trying to convey that the character is feeling. If you want to show her nude in that way it should be as untitillating as possible and you don't do that by showing close ups of her boobs. The cinematography shouldn't be drawing attention to the nudity, it should be as blasé about it as the character.
The Terminator does the same thing. You start of with a scene where Arnold is nude. It's only there to show off his amazing body, that's it. There's a plot justification but I bet they thought that up afterwards. Then there's the scene where he does "surgery" on himself, and that shows how detached from his body he is (just like the tank scene in GitS).
Isn't it also convenient that the Puppet Master happened to possess yet another nude female torso, eh? All that stuff adds up and makes me question their intent. It makes it seem pervy, and that makes me like the movie less (I still love it though).
dark_inferno
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Yes there is a point. Clothes doesnt have cloak ability. So she can be invisible. She even needs to hide her eyes because you can see them.
30yearsofhurt
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Should have got someone more Japanese. Like Emma Stone.
s_mirage
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I'd argue it not necessarily showing that, or if it is, it's not doing it very well. There's really too little character exploration in the movie to establish that as fact, and if we consider that thermoptic camo would likely be of a standard design, there would be nothing unique about the Major's use of it.
With the exception of the opening titles, the nudity seems to serve no real purpose other than to be there. When you consider that the film was part British funded, and came out a time when anime was primarily known in the west for tits and violence (GITS has both), it's not too much of a stretch to suggest that the nudity was not as meaningful as some make it out to be. It's not sexual but that doesn't mean that it didn't grab the attention of my teenage self, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone.
Something that wasn't true in the original manga or any incarnation of the franchise outside of Oshii's movie.
"God's Beard!"
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Why does it matter what ethnicity an actor is to play a cyborg with a 100% artificially constructed appearance? If anything, Scarlett is a good choice for this sort of role because she has experience from stuff like Under the Skin where she plays someone detached from her human body. She also has a ton of experience working as a heroine in action movies and all the behind the scenes stuff that comes with that. People like her and clearly she's a reliable actor for these sorts of roles. There's more reason to hire someone than to match the face from the source material, especially when the character's ethnicity has zero bearing on their development or the overall plot.
I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan but I think this casting makes a lot of practical sense.
I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan but I think this casting makes a lot of practical sense.
Dice//
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";180689164]Why does it matter what ethnicity an actor is to play a cyborg with a 100% artificially constructed appearance? If anything, Scarlett is a good choice for this sort of role because she has experience from stuff like Under the Skin where she plays someone detached from her human body. She also has a ton of experience working as a heroine in action movies and all the behind the scenes stuff that comes with that. People like her and clearly she's a reliable actor for these sorts of roles. There's more reason to hire someone than to match the face from the source material, especially when the character's ethnicity has zero bearing on their development or the overall plot.
I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan but I think this casting makes a lot of practical sense.[/QUOTE]
Just to get it out there, on a marketing perspective I think Scarlet is a great choice too.
But...
Part of the problem is that it's taking an Asian-origin property and putting white actors as the lead --- as usual. Problem is when there is also significantly fewer A-listing Asian actors/actresses while whites dominate the market (and being a Hollywood star is a damn fine job, pays extremely well, and means a lot of press --- something that'd be great for minorities whom typically get the short end of the stick).
I mean, it's definitely not exclusive to NA, but it'd be good to set a good example.
Semi-related, hopefully it'd mean less stuff like this too and making a big deal when any minority race hits the screen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Darling_Is_a_Foreigner#Reception
I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan but I think this casting makes a lot of practical sense.[/QUOTE]
Just to get it out there, on a marketing perspective I think Scarlet is a great choice too.
But...
Part of the problem is that it's taking an Asian-origin property and putting white actors as the lead --- as usual. Problem is when there is also significantly fewer A-listing Asian actors/actresses while whites dominate the market (and being a Hollywood star is a damn fine job, pays extremely well, and means a lot of press --- something that'd be great for minorities whom typically get the short end of the stick).
I mean, it's definitely not exclusive to NA, but it'd be good to set a good example.
Semi-related, hopefully it'd mean less stuff like this too and making a big deal when any minority race hits the screen:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Darling_Is_a_Foreigner#Reception
dark_inferno
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Really? Well okay then. But i still find it clever that somebody who is a robot needs to undress to be invisible.
Not having cloaking material out of ...well... a cloak is pure fan service. It's not necessary from a design perspective that it need be done in the nude.
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