SCE Executive Vice President: Possible enhanced version PS4, no first party for Vita

RK128 said:
I loved the game on Vita, so I played it and had a blast with it :).

Just bites that games that are home to Vita are being yanked away from it, that's all.

Again, different topic for a different discussion, so I will drop it.

Sorry for de-railing the thread guys.
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No worries. Just remember this: the more people who can play a game, the more likely it is to generate enough income to keep the studio afloat.

Platforms don't matter, studios matter. :)
 
eFKac said:
Nintendo fans ate up the N3DS without much complaining, so I guess there is a market for such a thing.

I doubt they'll do it though.
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I think people upgraded for the same reason they would any other handheld revision, not necessarily because of the boost in power. There are plenty of other selling points, I got one mainly because its screen size is the perfect middle ground.
 
PS4S

I have no problem with this, seems consoles are moving into phone territory. 4 year cycle seems, 2 years a system, then release an updated system, then new system, updated system, etc. Fine by me.
 
Guymelef said:
Developers make console games for closed specs.
You basically want a PS4 with faster menus.
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They are still making games for PS4 using the standard PS4 as minimum but it will run better on PS4.1. Using API, they can increase AF, AA, AO or shadow quality in games on PS4.1 if the game detects it is running on PS4.1.
 
People do realize a new high performance PS4 would require games to be developed for that right? With the number of PS4s already sold I can't imagine developers seeing any upside to developing games for this new upgraded PS4 that only a small percentage of the PS4 install base would own.
Also the current PS4 hasn't been maxed out yet. Looking back to the PS3 the hardware wasn't really pushed to its limits until it's last year with TLOU and GTA5
 
Clarkus Darkus said:
PS4.5 would just be confusing to market, Let alone sell, Especially when people are still in the mindset the X1 still doesnt support used games lol. The internet would be wise to it but the general public wouldn't.

Surely they know of the WiiU fiasco.

Trainwreck waiting to happen that would be.
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They wouldn't change the name at all it would just be sold as a new version of the PS4, like a redesign.

By the way are we on the verge of a videogame world where consoles upgrade like pc ?? The idea doesn't seem to shock anyone it seems.

After all, as long as it's compatible, game will just run at 900p on the old one and 1080p on the new one.
 
sörine;182663921 said:
RIP 10 year cycle. Vita means Death.

People would bitch about a mid-cycle home console upgrade but I bet they still buy it. Both Sony and MS should maybe consider it, their systems weren't really bleeding edge anyway this gen. Sony probably needs it for PSVR to be at all competitive with PC based VR solutions too.

It's also been speculated Nintendo's going this route with NX mimicking a more OS based/device agnostic iOS/Android platform model. That might not be a bad way for PlayStation and Xbox to go either longterm unless they just want to jump to streaming services primarily.
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Nintendo coming out with mid-cycle consoles is because they have to catch up to Sony/MS.

NX and the successor to it will still be as powerful XB1/PS4 in which case, why release a PS4.5 at all? There's no major shift happening for developers to drop those systems.
 
miku said:
On PS4 Performance Boost:

-"For example, there are ideas such as releasing a standard PS4 and a high performance PS4."
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What is this nonsense? Could the suits at sony really be that stupid? I don't see how third party developers would support this, much less consumers.
 
danhese007 said:
They are still making games for PS4 using the standard PS4 as minimum but it will run better on PS4.1. Using API, they can increase AF, AA, AO or shadow quality in games on PS4.1 if the game detects it is running on PS4.1.
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Why are you talking about it like it's already happening? Also like others have said why would any third party dev want to deal with making another version of the game with higher specs just to run on a limited number of consoles.
 
kiguel182 said:
An high performance PS4 seems like it goes against the entire concept of buying a console and it would suck for every current PS4 user. I hope they don't do it.
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nintendo already did this with the n3DS though.

I'd be down, not a fan of how weak the new consoles were designed in the first place
 
they are not going to release a new version of the PS4 (PS4.1)

if they release a refreshed version it will be one that can play 4k blu-ray discs, and will be a niche product aimed at movie buffs...

Sony aren't dumb, they're not going to fragment a market they've strived to win back after the PS3 lost them all that market share.
 
I think it's just a commentary on the flexibility the architecture allows vs PS3's, where the Cell roadmap basically came to an end pretty quickly. That the idea of a 'linear/easy enhancement' for existing software via improved hardware isn't technically prohibitive now where it might have been in the past.

(And all the speculation about a 'PS4.1' and what it might look like after that is the article writer's speculation, not the VP's comment)

I don't think from a business point of view there's any such plans floating around. He goes on in another answer to espouse the virtue of PS4's single and stable performance profile for VR content development, so...
 
I'd be down for a pro version. It doesn't have to have games with crazy improvements I'd be happy with a bump to load times and increased framerates and resolution.
 
t_wilson01 said:
What is this nonsense? Could the suits at sony really be that stupid? I don't see how third party developers would suppoert this, much less consumers.
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This is not rocket science people.

PS4 has a 1.8TF APU at 28nm

PS4.5 uses the same APU at say 16nm but upclocked to a 2.+TF

Developers will create games that run on standard PS4 as minimum but those games can run better or dynamically scale to use extra resources PS4.5 offers. Maybe enable better AA, AF etc etc.
zackmorris said:
Why are you talking about it like it's already happening? Also like others have said why would any third party dev want to deal with making another version of the game with higher specs just to run on a limited number of consoles.
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I'm not talking about it as if its already happened, it is all hypothetical. Developers do not create games for different PCs, they create one game that scales with performance of different PC configurations.
 
t_wilson01 said:
What is this nonsense? Could the suits at sony really be that stupid? I don't see how third party developers would support this, much less consumers.
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Really, it was just a hypothetical question posed by the interviewer.

There's no chance we get an enhanced PS4 that's just crazy.
 
give the PS4 another price drop so it drops to 300$, release the PS4+ at a 400$-450$ price range, win.

or better yet

wait for this generation to end, release PS5, win another generation.
 
I really hope this isn't true. I don't see the point of releasing an enhanced console in the middle of a generation. Either release a brand new console sooner or don't release any enhanced versions of the current console at all. All I can see is something like the Slim PS4 will have slightly higher clock speeds.
 
JordanN said:
Nintendo coming out with mid-cycle consoles is because they have to catch up to Sony/MS.

NX and the successor to it will still be as powerful XB1/PS4 in which case, why release a PS4.5 at all? There's no major shift happening for developers to drop those systems.
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I think you misunderstood me, I'm not saying NX is a mid-cycle upgrade itself but rather it'll likely mark the start of more frequent architecture refreshes for Nintendo. Probably not annual like smartdevices go for but quicker than than the 4-8 years we're used to seeing with consoles.
 
Would only consider an enhanced PS4 if there's an extremely generous trade in offer. Like trade in your ps4 and pay $100 for an enhanced ps4.
 
Javin98 said:
I really hope this isn't true. I don't see the point of releasing an enhanced console in the middle of a generation. Either release a brand new console sooner or don't release any enhanced versions of the current console at all. All I can see is something like the Slim PS4 will have slightly higher clock speeds.
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That is the enhance i hope he is talking about. With a die shrink, they can upclock current PS4 to 2.X+TF at no extra cost to the consumer.
 
ShadowSoldier89 said:
nintendo already did this with the n3DS though.

I'd be down, not a fan of how weak the new consoles were designed in the first place
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The difference is that Nintendo makes a profit on hardware, and has an incentive to get their hardcore fans to end up buying 2-3 systems per generation to pad their install base numbers and prop up their profit margins.
 
So they wanna merc their best selling console ever half-way through it's cycle? I'm not Sony CEO smart, but this sounds like a pretty dumb idea.
 
I imagine a performance based ps4 current user would be able to upgrade at a highly discounted cost by exchanging old
 
Enhanced PS4 sounds interesting although I'm not sure if third party developers would invest the time to take advantage of the extra muscle.
 
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