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[Lady Siara]

If anything, they could just have PS VR have the specs inside the device (as it has to be hooked up to the PS4 anyway), so that already fixes that issue. Its going to be expensive, so leverage from its high price by putting a lot of tech inside the headset.

This would increase the price of it exorbitantly. I assume they're currently aiming in the $300 to $400 price window and doing something like what you're suggesting would kill it before it even drew its first breath. To give you an idea, Hololens dev kits are going to cost $3000. The comparison isn't 1:1 but it should let you know that standalone hardware like that isn't cheap.

Also, with your idea, why is the PS4 even needed in this case?

 

[RK128]

This would increase the price of it exorbitantly. I assume they're currently aiming in the $300 to $400 price window and doing something like what you're suggesting would kill it before it even drew its first breath. To give you an idea, Hololens dev kits are going to cost $3000. The comparison isn't 1:1 but it should let you know that standalone hardware like that isn't cheap.

Also, with your idea, why is the PS4 even needed in this case?

I'm mainly thinking putting a extra CPU and more RAM in the PS VR Headset, not any GPU's or anything (as that is already quite strong in the PS4).

But that would be a way to have the 'updated' PS4 without pissing off the larger gaming community; it being tied to the PS VR (which needs the higher specs I guess)

 

[QaaQer]

Not-high performance is one of the coolest things of owning a console?

He means not feeling the pressure to upgrade and feeling like you are missing out if you don't.

 

[Breakage]

Maybe Sony could condense the high performance stuff into a usb stick plug-in for existing owners. They could call it "PS4 Turbo" or something.

 

[Zombie James]

Reminds me of the Playstation-C rumors in the late 90s.

 

[akidnamededdy]

This kinda move is semi acceptable in the handheld realm but I don't think it'll work out in the console space.

 

[Shadow Broker]

I don't have a Vita because I can't afford it. So I'm on the out side looking in. I'm amazed that the Vita fanbase hasn't banned together and started some twitter movement or just expressed their outrage in a united voice.

 

[off duty ninja]

Probably been said already but they need to release the high performance version of PSN and their OS before they think about new hardware.

 

[Sectorseven]

Can't we just get a ram expansion pak?

 

[qa_engineer]

Fragmentation is how you kill momentum and product excitement. If they were to increase clock speeds and performance of existing devices then that would be great, but a whole new higher performance PS4 is silly.

 

[maquiladora]

Absolutely no way there will be a PS4 and a PS4.3

If anything, a performance boosted PS4 would essentially be a PS5 and a new generation.

 

[Tntnico]

I think I'm OK with a High Performance PS4 if it's just in order to run Playstation VR better.
I'm currently a Xbox One owner and I still don't know if I will buy a PS4 or a PC in 2016 (for VR experiences).

 

[geordiemp]

I'd be up for a high performance PS4.

They should call it Ps5 and be backward compatible with Ps4.

Games would have to have options for ps4 / ps5

 

[DidntKnowJack]

That would be commercial suicide. I'd be really surprised to see that happen.

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

A high performance PS4 model? Eh...doubt that it will ever move past being just an idea.

 

[QaaQer]

the fuck? What weird thought from Sony they currently have the most powerful console on offer, are they worried about the NX Power performance or Russian DX12 performance rumours? I don't want to buy consoles every three years.

But from what I remember both console makers have patents relating to power scalable consoles bundles. So maybe this was in Sony and Microsoft pipeline

Russian dx12? What's Putin up to now?

 

[Deku Tree]

They should call it PS4 60fps 1080p.

Then they mandate that all new PS4 games support both consoles and run at 60fps 1080p on the enhanced PS4.

 

[Wagram]

The conversation was purely hypothetical which the OP is quite vague about. I also doubt something like this would ever come to fruition because they don't need to do it and it would fragment the user base.

 

[sturgboski]

Why not just release a Vita emulator for PS4. Charge a dollar amount if you want. At least at that point you would have a PS1 emulator as well through the Vita emulator and some place to still sell Vita titles (keeping support going). Maybe it would also get Sony to support the Vita's whitelist because of the emulator.

 

[EventHorizon]

I've been saying this would happen to the current console gen for a while now. I think Microsoft will drive this and will announce a high performance computer appliance that can play Xbox games next year. This won't necessarily be an Xbox. It could be an expansion of their Surface line. SurfaceBox? Sony will have to release an upgraded version of the PlayStation in order to not get left behind.

 

[BadWolf]

I've been saying this would happen to the current console gen for a while now. I think Microsoft will drive this and will announce a high performance computer appliance that can play Xbox games next year. This won't necessarily be an Xbox. It could be an expansion of their Surface line. SurfaceBox? Sony will have to release an upgraded version of the PlayStation in order to not get left behind.

Sony won't give a shit.

And MS will be shooting themselves in the foot by releasing anything enhanced.

 

[Sectorseven]

How much are 4k Blu-ray players expected to cost? I could see a model with that and maybe a few gimmicks for a premium cost.

 

[Sub_Level]

PS4 RAM Expansion Pak

 

[qa_engineer]

PS4 RAM Expansion Pak

I will only get it if you can download the ram expansion pac.

http://downloadmoreram.com/

 

[spectator]

Why not just release a Vita emulator for PS4. Charge a dollar amount if you want. At least at that point you would have a PS1 emulator as well through the Vita emulator and some place to still sell Vita titles (keeping support going). Maybe it would also get Sony to support the Vita's whitelist because of the emulator.

I'd drop $20 on a solid Vita software emulator for PS4. I'd bet they could move a lot more Vita titles that way. I wonder what kind of development cost that would require.

 

[Acquiescence]

If they do a "high performance" PS4, I will ravage them with the harshest words in sequence so that whoever was responsible for greenlighting such dumbshittery actually explodes into visceral chunks.

The Sony 'experience' across the board has been you buy the console, thats it. You're in. Across the handhelds even, no DSi or N3DS bullshit.

Do not fuck your fanbase. You don't have the early childhood nostalgia properties to mindbend your customers with that Nintendo do.

Yeah I concur with this. Don't fragment the PS4 fanbase, just don't do it. It spells trouble. If they're that concerned about the vanilla PS4 not being powerful enough for whatever reason, then cut the gen short and whip the PS5 out.

You're going to put ideas into people's heads if you start releasing enhanced models later down the line. Early adopters are going to be reluctant to shed over their monies if they think they can they can get a superior version of the console later on. Just everyone unified and on equal terms.

 

[wrowa]

Is the translation in the OP accurate? And what's even the name of the Executive VP? There's a strange lack of info for such a big thread.

 

[Larogue]

A enhanced version of PS4? Bring it on!

I buy a new phone every year for ~$500

I wouldn't mind upgrading my console every 2-3 years.

Those who can't afford upgrading can still play their PS4 games on the standard version.

 

[Insane Metal]

WTF? A higher end console? Would that even work? Is that a PS4 for VR? Idk man, this is so shady.

 

[GeordieMark]

I've been saying this would happen to the current console gen for a while now. I think Microsoft will drive this and will announce a high performance computer appliance that can play Xbox games next year. This won't necessarily be an Xbox. It could be an expansion of their Surface line. SurfaceBox? Sony will have to release an upgraded version of the PlayStation in order to not get left behind.

I can see this happening in 2017. Wouldn't be surprised at all if discussions were already happening.

 

[Ushay]

I don't think it would have to, as long as all titles remain compatible with all PS4s.



Is there really any legitimate reason to be pissed off by the availability of a higher-end console? Would it be reasonable to complain if your car manufacturer introduced a model that costs more than your car? Why be pissed at an even better PS4?

... It's an even better PS4!

It just makes more sense to focus on the current hardware and do a proper generational jump when the time comes. PS4 Slim? Go for it. Enhanced features like hard drive? Hell yes. But increasing the performance capability is a slippery slope imo.

 

[Ricky_R]

On PS Vita:
-"No first party titles in development for PS Vita currently."
-"Will leave third party devs to do their best."
-"SCE main focus will be on the PS4."

At least they're

Spoiler

brutally

honest about it.

About the enhanced PS4... That's just Sony fucking with MS's mind.

 

[Zambatoh]

This isn't the first time Sony has done mid-gen upgrades. Just look at the PSP. The 2k model onwards all had double the ram to improve load times and performance.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

A higher specced PS4 would be a disaster. I don't believe for a second they would seriously consider it.

 

[MaDKaT]

I could see something to "enhance" or boost PSVR but I doubt there would be anything like a PS4.5 for current and future PS4 games.

 

[phanphare]

A higher specced PS4 would be a disaster. I don't believe for a second they would seriously consider it.

why would it be a disaster?

 

[Midn1ght]

Ram Pack ???

 

[crinale]

I read the original Japanese but it looks like he answered it may be possible because the guy did the interview asked..
The interviewer has been obsessed with VR and it is more like he wants Sony to make another PS4.

 

[anexanhume]

I'd be interested in what a high performance PS4 entails. You can't throw more CPU cores at it because the parallelism isn't there. Jaguar wasn't designed for much more than 2.0 GHz. My guess is the main improvements would have to be faster GDDR5 and a bigger GPU. Maybe more cache per core.

 

[sörine]

Tying it to PSVR makes some sense although it seems like it'd be awkward to implement unless a SOC upgrade to be built into the visor itself. Does PS4 even have any old school expansion ports that's allow you to add a chip/ram upgrade? It could be a less threatening proposition for the current growing base if it'd allow you to upgrade without having to buy a whole new system, although console upgrades have a pretty spotty track record anyway.

Reminds me of the Playstation-C rumors in the late 90s.

I thought those arose because of Namco's System 12 board being enhanced over PS1/S11 spec? We had similar rumors for a Dreamcast 2 upgraded console based off Naomi 2 before Sega went 3rd party.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

How much time should I wait to get the Enhanced PS4 ?

 

[crinale]

I could see something to "enhance" or boost PSVR but I doubt there would be anything like a PS4.5 for current and future PS4 games.

Yeah that's pretty much what is talked about mainly within this article.

 

[panty]

A "high performance PS4" sounds like a disaster for everyone who has a PS4 already.

A PS4 owner from day 1, I'd buy an enhanched version immediately. Sounds like extra work for devs without the necessary profit. Would you have a standard and a hifi-version of a game?

 

[Mass One]

why would it be a disaster?

Yeah I'm not seeing why it could be a disater. A direct parallel is the PC gaming ecosystem. And that has way more variations then just 2 possible choices. It could work.

 

[dofry]

I was hoping I could take advantage of using two PS4's to improve Playstation VR fidelity so a high-performance model for that purpose is ok to me as long as everything on it works from PS4 -> PS4HP and vice versa.

 

[MrGlass]

I'd be pissed if they came out with a higher spec PS4. I'm not going to spend ~£300 to buy another one.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Congratulations, you've just contracted "New GPU every two years or less"-itis ... except with a console. LOL

Not necessarily, no.

Much like new 3ds, the original platform didn't have to be worthless.

A beefier PS4 might needed for PS VR, too. And I'd rather VR be done right.

 

[phanphare]

I'd be pissed if they came out with a higher spec PS4. I'm not going to spend ~£300 to buy another one.

I'm sure there would be trade in deals if this were to actually come to fruition

 

[Tigress]

Horrible idea. Handhelds at least are cheaper. But the reason people are willing to buy consoles is not having to worry about upgrading every few years and not worrying about if the machine they have has the right specs for the game they want to buy. And consoles are too expensive to go the smartphone route. Especially as you don't get them subsidized and they're not "cool" like smartphones (they still have a lot more limited market). I mean to sell those smartphones even with teh subsidize route going away you now have new "plans" to make the phones seem cheaper. The only reason people don't rebel on the phone model is carriers are always trying to find ways to hide how expensive those devices really are.

People who don't mind that stuff get a PC.

 

[Mass_Pincup]

If this is true I won't ever buy a playstation system early again. First with the Vita they drop support in 2 years and then they release an higher specced PS4 ?

Not I'll just wait till the end of the generation if that's the case.