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Not sure about since he was elected but net immigration across the border has basically been flat for years

Mexican Immigration to the US reversed since 2015: http://www.wsj.com/articles/mexican-immigration-to-u-s-reverses-1447954334

The whole "rapists taking our jobs, we need to stop the flow" discourse is fabricated on a lie.

 

[Ponn]

So what exactly is this? Is it an executive order? Democrats cant pass a bill on their own so what exactly is the deal and how can Trump insure the GOP gets behind it? Trump doesn't give a shit about DACA, he just wanted to undue something Obama did but the GOP have much more invested interest in this and Trump giving up his wall, i'm not going to celebrate anything till I see a bill passed and see the contents.

 

[Poor GRIMES]

Good press coverage is going to mean he will likely be reelected.

You think he will make it that far?

 

[MrMephistoX]

This is actually conceivable.

What a world we live in.

I can't argue with the illogic?

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

I told yall. Trump want that good press.

Trump is fucking garbage and I cannot forgive him for his actions........

BUT

I do believe that people are capable of redemption.... at least one.... shit I know Ive used mine...


If Trump makes a heel turn in the vainest of reason, I will still accept the good. How can you not if it moves the country in a better way. (Minimum wage, better tax, immigration)

Im not naive, I considering the possibilities of the unpredictable.

 

[Caelus]

0 Forgiveness for everything he's done, but I'm all for the useful idiot approach.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

0 Forgiveness for everything he's done, but I'm all for the useful idiot approach.

it's worked so far for Russia

 

[Mark Andrew]

it's worked so far for Russia

Russia greatly overestimated his usefulness and underestimated his idiocy.

 

[Quixzlizx]

I don't think some posters understand how much leverage the Democrats have.

Trump can't "get single-payer passed" because Ryan and McConnell can refuse to bring bills to a vote.

They can only be pressured regarding debt ceiling/budget negotiations, because those have to be passed eventually.

 

[Lowmelody]

Schumer and Pelosi are the bomb squad.

 

[Wet Bloodfart]

You think he will make it that far?

...yes?

 

[Vyer]

Lord, the 'this was his plan all along! Liberals crying about nothing!' posts on Facebook. 😂

That's a special kind of delusion

 

[Chmpocalypse]

No wall? The hell was the point voting for Trump then?

Unless you're a racist, sexist, or homophobic asshole? None.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Meanwhile, Trump's on Twitter again, focusing on the important current issu-nope he's still on about Hillary

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908161523180285953

It’s like if Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address was a twenty minute diatribe about what punk bitches the British are.

We get it shithead. You won. Can we talk about the future now? Or hell, even the present?

 

[Sai-kun]

wait




What?

 

[Ponn]

I don't think some posters understand how much leverage the Democrats have.

Trump can't "get single-payer passed" because Ryan and McConnell can refuse to bring bills to a vote.

They can only be pressured regarding debt ceiling/budget negotiations, because those have to be passed eventually.

This is the pivot! Quick take a photo op with Trump.

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

I told yall. Trump want that good press.

There's no redemption for Trump.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Don't call it a redemption, it's more like a misfired betrayal.

 

[RDreamer]

Lol:

@seanhannity
Well @SenMajLdr GREAT JOB! You failed so miserably with Healthcare and "excessive expectations" now @POTUS has to deal with Dem Leaders!

I suppose he ain't wrong

 

[Brock Reiher]

Shots fired. Lyin Ted? Crooked Hillary? Meet Amnesty Don.

https://twitter.com/CaitrionaPerry/status/908165350944014336?s=09

 

[twentytwo22]

Honestly could not have imagined this turn of events if I tried.

 

[Mark Andrew]

Shots fired. Lyin Ted? Crooked Hillary? Meet Amnesty Don.

https://twitter.com/CaitrionaPerry/status/908165350944014336?s=09

Isn’t that also a Joe Scarborough song?

 

[Officerrob]

Gonna take a wild guess and say the wall is still on, just not in this particular deal.

The wall will always be "on", just slightly out of reach...

 

[RandomSeed]

The best part is this ups the chance the GOP will pull their heads out of their asses when the time comes and go in on the impeachment parade. Of course they won't be doing it because of "laws", or doing what is "right, but because Trump is actively working against them.

 

[Betty]

Amazing stuff, sounds like a good deal honestly.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

I am reading that this is being misreported and no deal was made. I'll say this, if Trump agrees to no wall, I guarantee he'll lose a big portion of his base. That would bode very well for democrats in 2018 and 2020. I don't see him accepting "no wall", but I have been wrong plenty of times before.

 

[Electric Eye]

I surprised McConnell hasn't called it quits yet after all this shit. He's way overdue for sponge baths and tapioca pudding for dinner at the nearest senior community.

 

[Dead Prince]

What if this was Mueller all along

 

[mj1108]

Not confirmed but....

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/908151653911719936

It's not in the stmt, but per source the agreement is DREAM Act. That means citizenship. In a normal world House R's would not like that.

 

[Sean C]

So what exactly is this? Is it an executive order? Democrats cant pass a bill on their own so what exactly is the deal and how can Trump insure the GOP gets behind it? Trump doesn't give a shit about DACA, he just wanted to undue something Obama did but the GOP have much more invested interest in this and Trump giving up his wall, i'm not going to celebrate anything till I see a bill passed and see the contents.

Congressional Republicans generally favour doing something for DACA enrollees. Not all, by any means (see, e.g., hardcore racists like Steve King), but DACA covers the most politically sympathetic people amongst the broader category of illegal immigrants, and large numbers would be happy to just get them out of the conversation.

 

[JettDash]

Not confirmed but....

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/908151653911719936

That would be amazing.

I'm perfectly happy with Trump getting his W if that's what it is.

 

[KO Traveling Hobo]

It is going to suck so much if Trump pivots to the dems' useful idiot only to get impeached and replaced by Pence/Ryan.

I'm not holding my breath for that, though. Odds are that this is just his usual "tell people what they want to hear then turn around and do the worst possible thing instead" shtick that he's pulled so many times already.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

I am reading that this is being misreported and no deal was made. I'll say this, if Trump agrees to no wall, I guarantee he'll lose a big portion of his base. That would bode very well for democrats in 2018 and 2020. I don't see him accepting "no wall", but I have been wrong plenty of times before.

Trump fans would defend Trump no matter what.

This is part of the 'what' they'll say they never wanted the wall anyway.

 

[kirblar]

Not confirmed but....

https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/908151653911719936

This may explain this - https://twitter.com/costareports/status/908169824223854592

@costareports

My phone is like a flickering candle right now. 11:24 p.m. The nationalist/conservative base is lighting up. Texts to reporters, each other.

 

[Sean C]

I'm not holding my breath for that, though. Odds are that this is just his usual "tell people what they want to hear then turn around and do the worst possible thing instead" shtick that he's pulled so many times already.

He can't actually do anything in this context, since it's legislative. He's already effectively done the worst he can do by giving notice of cancelling the program.

 

[Not]

Holy shit, Trump working with the Democrats is the one thing that might actually get him impeached

What a glorious idiot

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

I don't think this actually means no wall. Just that the wall wasn't part of the security "enhancements" that the Dems agreed to. I'd imagine Trump still wants to build the wall.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Time to replace Pelosi.

 

[Sean C]

I don't think this actually means no wall. Just that the wall wasn't part of the security "enhancements" that the Dems agreed to. I'd imagine Trump still wants to build the wall.

Yes, that's what it means.

Trump will keep pushing the wall, and keep not getting anywhere. He's handed the Democrats all the cards they need to block that when he agreed to a short-term funding resolution.

 

[Mark Andrew]

I don't think this actually means no wall. Just that the wall wasn't part of the security "enhancements" that the Dems agreed to. I'd imagine Trump still wants to build the wall.

If he’s not tying it to DACA, or even a larger border security package, it’s deader than it already was.

 

[MetalGearZed]

You think he will make it that far?

I think if Trump makes it to the general election again, he'll win again

 

[SolarPowered]

Lol:


I suppose he ain't wrong

Man, Mitch and Ryan are done if Trump working Dems will result in anger directed at Republican leadership. I can't imagine how unpopular the both of them will be next year. Republicans might start burning McConnell and Ryan in effigy by next year lol.

 

[Username1198]

Holy shit.....this is great!

 

[PantherLotus]

If Pelosi is one of the ones to get Trump to enshrine DACA into law I don't wanna hear jack shit from anyone else against her liberal credentials or her ability to kick ass and take names ever again. She should go down as one of the better Dem leaders out there.

Pelosi is already one of the greatest congressional members of all time.

 

[Abinash117]

Once Trump signs that bill conservatives are going to be livid.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

lol Hannity deleted his tweet

 

[Farsi]

Holy shit.....this is great!

Congratulations fam.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

If they can keep this up, that debt-ceiling meeting could go down as a landmark sea change.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

wait... Dems destroyed the wall? aaahh

What got sacrificed? Min wage? lol

 

[Ponn]

Congressional Republicans generally favour doing something for DACA enrollees. Not all, by any means (see, e.g., hardcore racists like Steve King), but DACA covers the most politically sympathetic people amongst the broader category of illegal immigrants, and large numbers would be happy to just get them out of the conversation.

Yea I get that but what is THIS deal. What is Trump getting out of it and whats the incentive for the GOP, especially the ones that have falled in with Trumps rhetoric and his base. What is this rolled in with basically because I cannot believe in a million years there isn't another shoe to drop here.