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Doublesith
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Oh man..frakking January. Noooooooooo!
Bauer Action Hour
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Phoenix said:This fucking show is going to be the death of me... .too much suspense from week to week has GOT to be bad for the heartFuck, just cancel everything else on sci-fi and give me continuous BSG.
Fo reals.
This is the best show on TV and that was one of the most intense episodes of TV I've ever seen. January can't come soon enough.
Crazymoogle
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argon said:
Two things I would say about that...
-Adama and Tigh know very well the test is completely useless at this point based on the Boomer situation. They clearly don't trust the VP as much, and even if they did, Gaius said it himself that there are issues with the tests. I doubt he's even trying anymore.
-Remember who actually knows about the limit on Cylon models. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression even the Admiral doesn't know that bit of intelligence. Adama knows his role, but I saw enough looks in that episode to know he won't discount a one of them from being a cylon.
Manabyte: I agree; Olmos is acting his heart out. The skill of his performance thus far is amazing.
Doc Savage
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Holy Shit!!! What a finale for BSG. This is my favorite show on TV right now and January can't come soon enough.
Pudding Tame
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OK, listening to the BSG podcast right now and Moore just gave me my reason to definitly buy the Season 2 DVD collection.
They cut out 15 minutes of footage to fit it into the time slot (which still ran 2 minutes over), the the full version will be on the DVD.
They cut out 15 minutes of footage to fit it into the time slot (which still ran 2 minutes over), the the full version will be on the DVD.
Pudding Tame
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More explanation of what happened to the Pegusus, more between Cain and Roslin, and more Cain and Adama, from what I remember.
While I was taking a shower(don't ask) something about the Pegasus and it's Admiral's name kept sticking in my head.. I knew I'd heard them before... finally I realized this ep pays a nice homage to the original series episode Living Legend... in that ep Adama and crew come upon the Battlestar Pegasus commanded by the legendary Cain... but that Cain didn't outrank Adama unlike this one... though both were of the same mind of hunting and destroying Cyclons no matter what....
Pudding Tame said:
More lines between Admiral Cain and the President must have been interesting to watch. And DarienA gets points for remembering that, but aren't you astonished at the different treatment every old subplot has been given every time it shows up? Baltar and now the Pegasus. It really looks like mainstream sci-fi's optimism of the 1960s and 1970s is over, not that I mind. But you have to have some gall to make that kind of statement and pack all of it only an hour's worth of television; the chain of command in a time of war, the treatment of prisoners, the treatment of civilians. It moved very quickly in an hour.
I can't wait for January.
Banjo Tango
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Did I miss the explaination of how the Pegasus avoided the Cylon h4x, or was that likely part of the cut 15 minutes?Pudding Tame said:
Also, any word on when season 2 will hit DVD?
Banjo Tango said:
I'm rather curious about this too. Galactica is in the presense of Cylon ships for minutes while networked and it's almost utterly hacked, but apparently this new model always networked (supposedly the downfall of both the pre and post-Galactica Battlestars) battlestar survived all this time?
I'm wondering if they were left alone on purpose. For all we know, Cain is a cylon.
Doublesith
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Well, Cain did mention they had just put in for a three month refit. Maybe they also had outdated hardware or network software?
I already knew about this since July because of Moore's blog. He talked about not wanting to bring in Cain's daughter Sheba as a love interest for Apollo like in the original series because it would be "too cute".DarienA said:
Could it be possible that the toasters made a Battlestar and crew of cylons? I'm just wondering about that.
Seriously i wish we had stasus pods i would sleep till january. Best show on tv right now and not a single freaking emmy makes me wonder wtf is wrong with network and cable television.
I want more info on the new battlestar, the fact that its been out there all this time makes me think. Even if it had a conveniant complete retrofication of all its main systems.
WTF is up with baltar? He going to become the Cylon god? or what? I'm very confused by his character currently.
As for Stargate Atlantis. I liked the ending, but then again it ended like BSG too much going on to just cut if off right then and there.
How can we get scifi to notice we cant handle breaks. There isnt enough regular TV or cable shit on to keep our suspense till january. God knows i'll be counting down though.
I hope we get more info on the next season of BSG and soon. I want spoilers i dont care anymore i'm desperate. Like a mad crack addict i need my fix.
Seriously i wish we had stasus pods i would sleep till january. Best show on tv right now and not a single freaking emmy makes me wonder wtf is wrong with network and cable television.
I want more info on the new battlestar, the fact that its been out there all this time makes me think. Even if it had a conveniant complete retrofication of all its main systems.
WTF is up with baltar? He going to become the Cylon god? or what? I'm very confused by his character currently.
As for Stargate Atlantis. I liked the ending, but then again it ended like BSG too much going on to just cut if off right then and there.
How can we get scifi to notice we cant handle breaks. There isnt enough regular TV or cable shit on to keep our suspense till january. God knows i'll be counting down though.
I hope we get more info on the next season of BSG and soon. I want spoilers i dont care anymore i'm desperate. Like a mad crack addict i need my fix.
Shogmaster
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That fucking BSG cliffhanger is a cruel cruel stunt to pull on poor schmoe like me. It's bad enough to wait a week to see what happens but months?!? WHY SCI-FI, WHY!?!?!? *crys in a corner*
Holy fuck shit. Just watched the episode from last night.
On some level, I'm okay with the hiatus. I don't think I could handle this and Lost at the same time anymore, not after that episode. I'm not sure I could handle anything more emotionally stimulating than Boobah at this point.
On some level, I'm okay with the hiatus. I don't think I could handle this and Lost at the same time anymore, not after that episode. I'm not sure I could handle anything more emotionally stimulating than Boobah at this point.
Pudding Tame
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B'z-chan said:
There are only 12 models of human Cylons, if the Pegusus was manned by Cylons the Galactica would know just by looking at all the quintuplets in its crew.
SpoonyBard
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That was an amazing episode of Galactica. I first thought that they were just going to remake that old Galactica episode from 1979, but then things started to move to different direction. The Pegasus crew was maybe a bit too fucked up, that was about the only bad thing in the episode.
Amazing finale. I personally believe that Cain isn't a Cylon and is just going insane with power. It would be to cliche to make her a Cylon, as they did with
On a sidenote who got their Season 1 boxsets? I'm up to episode three of the series, watching them without and then with commentary.
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Pudding Tame
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Android, is the DVD commentary the same as the Moore's podcasts are they new for the DVD's?
Phoenix
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Banjo Tango said:
Well from what I understand they were prepping for upgrade at a shipyard when the attacks came and they found themselves on the receiving end of nukes at the shipyard and did a blind jump away after seeing massive ownage around them - so chances are, they didn't get a chance to succomb to the virus or the model of WindowsOS that they use wasn't vulnerable.
One things I'm glad to see is how big the Pegasus is. It always bothered me how the Galactica was so outmatched by a cylon base ship and I that sticking point always had me wondering "why do the Cylons have such massive base ships and the Galactica can't stand toe-to-toe with them, surely the colonial navy would have built ships that could hold their own aainst a base star".
Banjo Tango
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But when Galactica enabled their network and the Cylons received that "a wireless network is available in your area" notification, they were hacking that thing within seconds. Maybe since Galactica's network was sortof thrown together, it was easier for them to hack? Whereas they couldn't get through the newer Battlestars' security without Baltar's service pack 2?Phoenix said:
Phoenix
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Banjo Tango said:
I am more of the impression that the cylons hitting the shipyards were doing more of a pearl harbor job. They weren't really trying to do much more than just blow up everything there. The cylon raiders would pop in, drop nukes, and before the ships could even get fighter screens into the air - just about everything was destroyed. I've been getting the impression that the strategy for the shipyard wasn't the same as the core fleet because they seem to be detached by distance hence them not really knowing about the attack, recalling crews, breaking mooring, and being involved in the attack like the other battlestars.
To me it just seems that they were a 'secondary target' and no real attempt was made to jam them. I mean, what would be the point - they are sitting ducks waiting to receive nuke
So in my interpretation of events (which could be wrong), they were at the shipyard with a good chunk of the crew gone on shore leave (and I think there is a story left to be told about how they have 'recruited' some of their new crew). They hear that an attack is underway (and I believe she says this) and prepare to get underway - likely much of their ship is offline because its about to be upgraded. While they are preparing to get underway, raiders/base ships/etc. pop into the area and throw nukes at the ship yard - popping 2 battlestars and 2 other ships. Shortly thereafter the admiral realizes that she's is some serious shit and just blind jumps. Maybe the cylons were starting to hack them, maybe they had already taken over some stuff, maybe their virus wasn't engineered for the OS version that they run, maybe they saw that they were about to start losing control of the ship to the cylon virus (or heard about it from other warships) and that gave them additional incentive to quick jump.
Nevertheless if I were on the bridge and saw two ships of my type go up in close proximity to me, my first words would be:
"Oh shit"
"shit"
....
"shit...."
"Okay helm - jump, any heading, engage"
I don't think it took them to long to say "fuck this noise" and get out of dodge.
I'm more curious how they survived *since* then. The cylons don't seem unaware of them, as they seem to have encountered cylons since then (but then, the Admiral was very vague about what's happened since they left shipyard). I guess the best explanation, aside from subterfuge, is that their networks ARE more well protected than Galactica's brief network was. Still I wouldn't expect them to survive long within range of a basestar.
At the very least, the Cylons must be uninterested. They focus very heavily on the Galactica's fleet, probably because it's where all the civilians are. The opening keeps telling us they have a plan, and it probably doesn't really matter to them how much military there is in the fleet. Let alone a seperate 'fleet' with only one Battlestar and contingent of vipers/raptors.
Someone said something about maybe the Pegasus was being upgraded because it wasn't networked, but that doesn't make a lot of sense given that it is a flagship. You would expect it to always be up to date on tech.
At the very least, the Cylons must be uninterested. They focus very heavily on the Galactica's fleet, probably because it's where all the civilians are. The opening keeps telling us they have a plan, and it probably doesn't really matter to them how much military there is in the fleet. Let alone a seperate 'fleet' with only one Battlestar and contingent of vipers/raptors.
Someone said something about maybe the Pegasus was being upgraded because it wasn't networked, but that doesn't make a lot of sense given that it is a flagship. You would expect it to always be up to date on tech.
JoshuaJSlone
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Good distinction. Ronan Dex is certainly not just a Season 1 Ford clone, and that's worked out pretty well.TomStrong said:
The first podcast for season one was for episode 9 (TIGH ME UP, TIGH ME DOWN). When you get to there on the DVD would you please download the podcast for it and let us know? Thanks.android said:
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/
Pudding Tame
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Thanks android.
Phoenix
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maharg said:
Well the Galactica sensors said it was large like a base star so I would expect that they are significantly larger than the Galactica. It does appear to have like 4 times the number of engines and a much much larger hanger bay. Overall the ship just appears to dwarf the Galactica in terms of fighter capability and size.
Well they can't transmute the technology in the ship into something new - its got to go into drydock like everyone else and get refitted to newer technology. Since it was at a shipyard, seems likely that they were prepping to be refitted.
Wow, what an incredible episode of BSG. It starts off with so much hope and gradually takes this crew/family we've gotten to know so well and just turns it upside down. The whole thing was so dark and tense that the "To be continued" text utterly caught me off guard. And after listening to the Podcast, it turns out the Boomer interrogation scene was actually filmed to be much darker and tragic. It's been awhile since a show has captured my attention and jacked with me emotionally as much as BSG. It's gonna be a long wait for January. Meanwhile, I need to pickup the Season 1 DVD set pronto.
Doublesith
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I stopped listening to the podcasts this season after Ron Moore warned he would be spoiling future episodes in them. However, I plan to listen to them during the reruns. Does anyone know if any specific podcasts contain spoilers for the second part of the season? I definitely will not be listening to those.
tedtropy said:
Yeah that was incredible... when the crew started talking about the fact that they raped Gina I was absolutely shocked... and then during the Boomer interrogation sequence when the guy goes to drop his pants I was like holy shit!!!! Yes its war, yes the cylons are responsible for millions upon millions of deaths... and yeah that's f*cked up... but this... on a whole different level of f*ckedness...
DarienA said:
This episode didn't pull any punches. I was almost slack-jawed at how quickly shit just went wrong when the Pegasus arrived. The dynamic between the totally contrasting viewpoints of these two crews is going to prove interesting.
BuckRobotron
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Once again, BSG hits another home run and Atlantis is consistently solid. Only thing I didn't like about the latter is in this episode how Caldwell was scripted to essentially be overruled left and rignt and even take sass from even Teyla. It didn't make sense with the character or the rank.
BSG was awesome all around. Treatment of the female cylons especially made for tense viewing. Boomer was one thing, but she was fortunately saved by her men. I actually got pissed off though seeing the the beaten/shackled #Six/Tricia Helfer cylon and what we can surmise happened based on what almost happened to Boomer. And strong acting in response to that sight by James Callis. But then everyone from McDonnell and Olmos down to the nameless extras seems to be giving their best efforts to make BSG rock.
BSG was awesome all around. Treatment of the female cylons especially made for tense viewing. Boomer was one thing, but she was fortunately saved by her men. I actually got pissed off though seeing the the beaten/shackled #Six/Tricia Helfer cylon and what we can surmise happened based on what almost happened to Boomer. And strong acting in response to that sight by James Callis. But then everyone from McDonnell and Olmos down to the nameless extras seems to be giving their best efforts to make BSG rock.
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