Seems like most third-party developers will not support Switch 2
LordOcidax
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Developers likes money… Not the same situation as Series S.
Lokaum D+
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dont get me wrong, i know that SW2 has more power than Series S, but still one of the lowest denominator among the new consoles
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Physiognomonics
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Third party games on Switch 2 will suffer the same fate as third party games on Switch 1. Even worse because of the cartdriges problem as most third party games won't be included on the cartdrige.
Kacho
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Its just the usual Nintendo derangement that we didn't see much of these past few years because Nintendo was crushing it. The hard reset with Switch 2 has given them new life.
The other day it was "muted launch, flop" then we hear it sold 3 million which they're trying to downplay.
Now we're seeing FUD about third party. It's clear Nintendo's continued dominance ruffles feathers.
LordOcidax
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Not talking about power, talking about the relevance that the Switch 2 is going to have, especially in Asia.
kazuyamishima
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aside of having more Ram memory, how does the Switch 2 has more power??
Lokaum D+
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having more memory makes it more powerful, low memory bandwidth is one of the Series S major flaws and why devs conplain about Series S ports.
Lokaum D+
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Xbox Series had sold 30Mi copies, 27Mi more player base than SW2 atm, i would say that Xbox relevance for the market atm is way higher than SW2 and even then most developers dont like to port to Series S.
Also, aside form China, Japan ( were Nintendo is King ) isnt that big of a market to be honest and japanese ppl arent really into western games that much, dont get me wrong, Nintendo ll dominate Japan no doubts, but imo they arent that big of player they once were.
kazuyamishima
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Memory bandwidth is also higher on the Series S, more than double of the Switch 2.
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So people should also skip Steam Deck completely, right ?
The only games at SGF coming to Switch 2 is Sonic racing and 007.
LordOcidax
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Japan alone is potentially a 30M+ market, Switch 2 is going to be the dominating console for third party there. FF7 Rebirth for Switch 2 is going to be a good benchmark in Japan. In Europe the Switch is having better sales for third parties than Xbox series (Obviously when the game is available in both platforms)
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Schmendrick
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What? No! Not even close...
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Lokaum D+
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I never said SW2 has more memory bandwidth, i said it has more memory and thats why i put SW2 close to series S as the lowest denominator in gaming consoles.
WTF are you saying ? Cyberpunk PS5 is an indefinitely better version than the Switch 2 one
ShadyAcshuns
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That's a straight up delusion.
ShadyAcshuns
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Not if people value portability above all else.
Lokaum D+
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thats why i said "AT THE MOMENT", for sure SW2 ll be a monster in Japan and ll sell more or close to the 30mi units mark, the problem is, how well western games ll fair with the Japanese ppl to say that it ll be more relevant for third parties ??? Obviously for eastern third party devs SW2 ll be a no brainier
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I think the problem is more the fact that not only AAA games are skipping Switch 2 but mid tier releases as well.
Lokaum D+
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I know that Series S has better CPU and better storage but has a almost equal GPU and a little less RAM ( it has more bandwidth ) but SW2 having Nvidia tensor core and best image quality due DLSS ll make it look like a more powerfull and capable console to the mass, that my opinion.
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Schmendrick
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Horrible bullshit.
kazuyamishima
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Both the PS5 and Series X have 60% more Ram than the Series S, the Switch has 20% more Ram.
But, the Series S has about 50% less memory bandwidth than the PS5 and has double the memory bandwidth compared to the switch 2.
Developers complain about the Series S against Series X and PS5.
Also, you're not putting the fact that both CPU and GPU are significantly better on Series S than the Switch 2
Lokaum D+
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dude, we are talking about the relevance of SW2 to third party developers here, its not a discussion about who have the better hardware, the fact is that Series S was the lowest denominator to developers and was a nightmare to port some games due his memory been shit, thats not my opinion, thats a fact, since we have this as a fact my opnion is that most devs ll avoid switch 2 ports cause the same difficulty if they can.
TheGodfather07
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So only 2 games out of the whole show. Its already obvious that support for new 3rd party games on day 1 will be sparse and we actually had people thinking GTA VI would get ported to switch 2! They can't even get the smaller 3rd party games, never mind the big ones.
LordOcidax
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Lots of Devs are probably receiving SDK late… For the rest of the year Nintendo is going to push hard to increase the Switch 2 user base, if they manage to meet the goal of 15-20 Million by March, that's almost above 50% Xbox Series user base. Still… I think Nintendo is going to drop a partner showcase to announce a bunch third party support, is obvious that they don't support any Geoff event and probably asked to third party for an exclusively announcement for Switch 2 versions of their games on a Nintendo direct, this has happened before.
Schmendrick
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No we are taking about your incredible nonsense claim in relation to hardware capabilities here.
And we don't even have to guess or discuss as we actually know the numbers....
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Lokaum D+
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all this cause i said that SW2 has more memory what is a fact and developers complain about the low memory bandwidth when porting to series S ( another fact ) ???? or just cause i said "it has more power" and that triggered you ?
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Schmendrick
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And we are forgetting the much weaker, GPU,CPU and ofc the bandwidth here...
You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about, dude.
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Lokaum D+
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Schmendrick
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Do you even remotely know the numbers here ...
Your claims are so utterly stupid it's not even funny
Lokaum D+
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you are saying that i said that Series S has weaker hardware on everything, when what i really said that is has stronger hardware but less memory and devs already hate making port to the damn think why would they botter to port to SW2.
are you really that dumb that cant read ??? are you really that triggered just cause i said "more power " ???
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Schmendrick
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Read your posting I first responded to you imbecile
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Lokaum D+
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yep, you got triggered just cause i said "more power", damn, ppl nowadays are such snowflakes, got triggered by really small things XD
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Schmendrick
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From "I never claimed such horrible nonsense" to "yes I claimed such horrible nonsense but you are to blame because you corrected me"
Go kick a rock you clown
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Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Well, that's as family friendly as it gets!
Lokaum D+
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its all fine, your Series S even if its a low denominator i ll continue to receive games for some time, not need to get that upset.
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Schmendrick
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Lokaum D+
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LordOcidax
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Topher
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Eh....we are talking about games announced on other systems not being available on Switch 2? Really don't think that matters. Folks primarily buy Nintendo for Nintendo games. Nintendo is an island unto themself. We will get plenty of third party games including ports from other systems, but the games that shine on Nintendo consoles are the ones made for Nintendo consoles. I certainly didn't buy Switch 2 to play anything I saw yesterday at SGF.
Topher
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Lokaum D+
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i m 100% sure that SW2 ll be a heaven for indie third party games, i wanna see how it ll fair among the big titles since CP77 is already looking like pushing SW2 to its limit.
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