Yep, aka Crusader of Centy.
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Sega Genesis/MegaDrive Appreciation Thread: Alien Storm > Golden Axe
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Yep, aka Crusader of Centy.
RoryDropkick
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In the summer of '89 I knew nothing of Golden Axe. EGM hadn't covered it IIRC.
First time I heard about it was in GamePro, pictured below.
Because of the way this was originally split across two pages, and even then the picture was never really one compete picture, I laid this out side by side as best as I could.
Then here is part of the Genesis Golden Axe advert:
I remember that ad. I was playing Golden Axe in the arcades quite often at that point. I associate the game with Friday nights at the local pizza place with my parents and sister haha..
well, sadly this fucker seems to be the 5% and it's the one I wanted to play the most, figures lol...
...That's them fighting words!And MW is like Zelda 2, but actually good.
cj_iwakura
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I'm curious what that's from too. (And why he has a power glove next to it)
And obviously it has to be:
Sega CD Community Thread |OT| Welcome to the Next Level
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Is the Genesis thread really so busy and hard to follow that you need to splinter Sega CD to its own thread?
It's from the 1993 movie;
William Baldwin's character designs video games, he's got a bunch of Japanese manga, game maps and stuff in his place
skip to 34:00 - obviously many parts of the movie are NSFW - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FliAnBp9C4Y
sixteen-bit
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AKA Ragnacenty for broke GAF
What are you waiting for? Nintendo to make one?
cj_iwakura
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A Black Falcon
Member
For Zelda-style games on the Genesis, I'd say that Landstalker is #1, Crusader of Centy is #2, and Beyond Oasis is #3. All three are very good games well worth getting for anyone who likes the genre. There are other action-RPGs on the system, of course, but those are the best ones, and the ones most like Zelda.
Of those three Landstalker is less like Zelda than the others, it's really an action-RPG and not a Zelda-style game like Crusader of Centy is, but as I said quite recently it's a pretty great game, and I like that the game isn't just a Zelda clone but tries to do some new things. The isometric platforming does take getting used to, but it does get easier with time.
If yo uwant the Genesis game that looks and plays the most like LttP, though, get Crusader of Centy. It's expensive, but visually blatantly copies LttP's style in a lot of ways. It's impressive how good it looks o na system with a lot less colors available. The gameplay is very good too, and the story is unique and original.
As for Beyond Oasis, it's got great graphics with large sprites and good animation. Gameplay-wise it's good, but I don't like it quite as much as the others. The game has a more complex fighting system than the other two, though, probably. It's the shortest game of the three.
As for other games, it's a very different kind of thing, but Gauntlet IV is a great action-RPG. Arcus Odyssey is another good game in that style. Oh, and as for Light Crusader, that is another isometric action-RPG, but I don't think it's anywhere near as great as Landstalker is. It is a simpler game though, focused on just exploring a dungeon.
For side-scrolling action-RPGs, the best ones are the Monster World games on Genesis and Popful Mail on Sega CD. Those three games (Wonder Boy in Monster World, Monster World IV, and Popful Mail) are all great.
D.Lo
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Look closer, there's plenty of talk of CD games.
I just checked, every single page for the last ten (on 50 posts per page) has mentioned a Mega CD game.
cj_iwakura
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Fair enough, I just thought it'd be nice.
Armoured Priest
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Second Beyond Oasis and Monster World. Beyond Oasis is really fun with cool combat. And MW is like Zelda 2, but actually good.
I wish I understood why people hate Zelda 2...
...actually, no I don't. I'll continue to replay Zelda 2 every so often and enjoy it.
What's this now?
Shadow Hog
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Crusader of Centy/Soleil in Japan.
I mean, CoC is like $150 or so cart-only now (probably more like $200 since it's been a while since I've checked), so getting a version whose price hasn't skyrocketed due to the language barrier would be an option for BrokeGAF. Makes sense, right?
RoryDropkick
Member
It does, that's why I got my copy of Ragnacenty for $20 about 2 years ago.
Yeah I suppose it does. Does the game not have much story?
If there were some cool spec info / links in the it or even some not so well known great games, that would be great.
Holy shit I've gotta get this;
Going for $55 - $75 ebay.
Edit: Soleil / Crusader of Centy / Ragnacenty preview in EGM.
Shadow Hog
Member
It might, actually, which is probably why the English versions went up in price and the Japanese one didn't. (I have not played this game.)
RoryDropkick
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Man, I got a hell of a deal then.
sixteen-bit
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No kidding. Sounds like Ragna blew up too.
DracoBlade
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I cant for the life of me get into Wonder Boy in Monster World :/
IrishNinja
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...really? i adore that game. how far are you getting, and what's off-putting for you?
Shadow Hog
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Well, the best way is over RGB SCART hooked up to an XRGB-Mini... but it's not a cheap route.
Just using the RGB SCART port on your TV would probably do, but you'd have to have such a TV (ie: you live in Europe).
Transcoding the RGB SCART signal to component would be the next best thing (perhaps even higher than the last step), but the Genesis outputs 240p and most modern HDTVs simply refuse to display 240p over component. (If you have a Wii - not Wii U, the original Wii - hooked up via component and a Virtual Console game to try it with, you can force it to output in 240p using this method, as a means of testing your HDTV's capability to handle such a signal.)
Modding the console to output S-Video is the next step down. It's pretty sharp-lookin', although there's these faint jailbars on the image that might be really distracting. Also, unless you know your soldering, you'd have to pay somebody else to do this for you.
If you've gotten this far down without finding anything acceptable, you're stuck with composite and RF, sorry.
How about importing the PAL game, "Soleil"? Pretty sure it's around 20.
Beware, though: The German version has German text only, not sure about other countries. May be wise to stick to UK.
(I got a game in a trade a while back and while I prefer English language in my games, I can live with a German-language "Soleil"....the translation seems to be okay and it's my native language anyway ^^)
IrishNinja
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still > golden axe too
sixteen-bit
Member
I agree
D.Lo
Member
I enjoyed Golden Axe 2.
All those games have such scabby animation though. It was an issue with 16 bit beat em ups, low frames looks normal on NES, but very silly with huge sprites. One of the reasons I liked Return of Double Dragon, the animation (choppy framerate kind of sucks though).
All those games have such scabby animation though. It was an issue with 16 bit beat em ups, low frames looks normal on NES, but very silly with huge sprites. One of the reasons I liked Return of Double Dragon, the animation (choppy framerate kind of sucks though).
sixteen-bit
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Y'all check out the new Edge with the 100 greatest video games of all time?
Not a single Gen/MD game
I am disappoint.
blast processed
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Genesis/Megadrive missing is just one of many many reasons wrong with that list.
D.Lo
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I think older Sega games don't fit the type of design that gets rewarded in 'greatest' lists though.
Sega's best games are mostly arcade fun - unambitious in the 'art' of gaming type ideas, but finely tuned instruments for entertainment (and in arcades themselves often technical achievements too).
I mean, SOR2 is great, best beat em up of the generation. But it's not 'brilliant genius' like say Link to the Past.
Not to say that type of stuff doesn't have high value either, it's just not the type of value that gets recognised when trying to think of 'true greats'.
Sega's best games are mostly arcade fun - unambitious in the 'art' of gaming type ideas, but finely tuned instruments for entertainment (and in arcades themselves often technical achievements too).
I mean, SOR2 is great, best beat em up of the generation. But it's not 'brilliant genius' like say Link to the Past.
Not to say that type of stuff doesn't have high value either, it's just not the type of value that gets recognised when trying to think of 'true greats'.
cj_iwakura
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I think I've gotten to the point where I stopped caring about clickbait articles like that.
A Black Falcon
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... How in the world do you make a top 100 games without, at minimum, including Sonic 2 and/or Sonic 3 & Knuckles? That's crazy! And they should be in the upper parts of the list, too. Mega Turrican and Sonic 1 would also make my top 100. Landstalker, Golden Axe, Shadow Dancer, Aladdin, Streets of Rage 2, Lightening Force, The Adventures of Batman & Robin, Lunar 2 (SCD), and Silpheed (SCD) are close to making my top 100 list too, and probably some would.
It actually has a somewhat interesting story, you would miss out by getting the Japanese version.
It actually has a somewhat interesting story, you would miss out by getting the Japanese version.
IrishNinja
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yeah, it's really shitty but that's the pervading mentality - let's all line up to praise Super Metroid and the same handful of titles on every list (lest someone scan it, not see that & say "LIST INVALIDATED" etc), making for really boring, sterile lists that are clearly only looking for certain types of games...hey, maybe this is how film buffs feel about oscars/etc
much smarter stance, honestly
Ah well. Time to save up.