Shadow Hog
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Also, Panzer Dragoon doesn't have a Berserk bar; Zwei was the first title in the series with that concept.
Amusing regression when you consider that Zwei comes before Panzer Dragoon chronologically.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Amusing regression when you consider that Zwei comes before Panzer Dragoon chronologically.
ResidentDante
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On emulation, maybe it's been posted before but Yabause apparently has OpenGL support:
You can also see the mesh translucency there (transparent radar instead of dithering), which is featured in SSF as well.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5JFTbVK2wI
Yabause doesn't work well on my PC though...
I tested this emulator out a bit i the weekend. It does a nice job with a lot of 3D games when you put the Open GL rendering on. However it's buggy as hell at times, often a 2D layer (skybox, the road in Chase HQ etc.) just isn't rendered.
Both the Daytona games work well though and it seem that the Saturn renders 3D more accurately in the distance than the PS1? I've played quite a lot of PS1 games on emulator and even though they run the games in high resolution etc. the damn polygon wapring is always present in the distance. This emulator, with the Open GL renderer on is shows no warping at all until the actual draw distance. Was the Saturn simply better at rendering polygons correctly?
A Black Falcon
Member
The 3DO and Saturn use quads instead of triangles (that is, 4-sided polygons for everything), and quads don't show as much warping as triangles do. Technologically the Saturn (or 3DO) are no better than the PS1 in terms of warping -- that is, they don't have any warping fix in hardware either -- but their use of quads disguises that somewhat.
ResidentDante
Member
Yeah, the difference is jarring when you are running these games in emulators at high resolutions though. Yabause gave me very little warping of the actual 3D graphics, but it did give a lot of other weird bugs, lol.
Guys, you won't believe it...I had a Sega Saturn for years and I forgot all about it, ROFL. My brother bought it some years ago and I totally forgot about it. Note I played some Sega Saturn games back in the day but never owned one in the 90s. Now I can do my collection, do direct feed screens and vids once I get more games and a proper capture device for it, though some games might work with my capture device, it hates anything under 480i, so yeah. It's dusty but my bro said it still works.
Man I feel so dumb right now.
Man I feel so dumb right now.
sixteen-bit
Member
congrats on the (re)acquisition.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
So I'm listening to the Daytona USA Anniversary Box soundtrack, and the Daytona USA 2 tracks are all cut short. Like they just play the first 2 minutes or so and then fade out.
What is this shit? Disappointment of the decade.
What is this shit? Disappointment of the decade.
OneHitWonder
Member
Not sure if this was covered already, but the old SSF homepage linked in the OP is gone. Some googling shows that it moved to http://www.geocities.jp/mj3kj8o5/ssf/index.html
Yes, Geocities in 2014. OP should be updated.
Source: http://ngemu.com/threads/ssf-not-dead-after-all.160521/
Yes, Geocities in 2014. OP should be updated.
Source: http://ngemu.com/threads/ssf-not-dead-after-all.160521/
Just got your PM and fixed it right away.
Thanks for the heads-up and the infos, btw, really appreciated!
That's the most important thing.
Thanks.
Now I need to buy a s-video cable for it and get rolling with the games but here's what my bro got so far:
Great, now I've got that Baku Baku *chomp-chomp-chomp* sound running thru my head. =PNow I need to buy a s-video cable for it and get rolling with the games but here's what my bro got so far:
retrogamer84
Member
Oh man lucky, X-Men vs SF is a great fighting game on the Saturn imo. Still need to pick that one up.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter tho
retrogamer84
Member
Oh dang how did I miss that, lol. I guess that is what happens when I post half asleep. That is also a great game though.
IrishNinja
Member
is Baku Baku good? i was gonna buy it, but then that mad collector Mzoes did just to put it in his vault.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
It's fun. It's basically a reskinned Puyo Puyo -- the gameplay is very similar.
IrishNinja
Member
puyo puyo? no... more like Puzzle Fighter!
exact same mechanics as puzzle fighter, except u can't build gems, and there isn't a character balancing / offense system, just your basic group all the same blocks together til you get the corresponding animal block to eat them
it's fun, definitely has its charm, but Puzzle Fighter is better in every way lol
exact same mechanics as puzzle fighter, except u can't build gems, and there isn't a character balancing / offense system, just your basic group all the same blocks together til you get the corresponding animal block to eat them
it's fun, definitely has its charm, but Puzzle Fighter is better in every way lol
Shadow Hog
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It's definitely very fun. Admittedly, Puzzle Fighter does the same basic concept better, with its large gems, time-locked garbage, character-specific garbage patterns, et cetera. Still, I played it on my Game Gear in total ignorance of Puzzle Fighter, and still had a great time.
That said, the Saturn version mildly disappointed me - I was expecting there to be brief cutscenes before and after every match like the Game Gear version, only to find there really wasn't much of anything between rounds - you just move from round to round. A shame, because I thought the additional dialog in the Game Gear version made the opponents more interesting. Still worth it, since my disappointment probably wouldn't translate over to somebody totally new to the game.
And no, it's absolutely nothing like Puyo Puyo. The similarities end at "you get to battle another person".
That said, the Saturn version mildly disappointed me - I was expecting there to be brief cutscenes before and after every match like the Game Gear version, only to find there really wasn't much of anything between rounds - you just move from round to round. A shame, because I thought the additional dialog in the Game Gear version made the opponents more interesting. Still worth it, since my disappointment probably wouldn't translate over to somebody totally new to the game.
And no, it's absolutely nothing like Puyo Puyo. The similarities end at "you get to battle another person".
bishopcruz
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What's the theme for May in the Year of the Saturn? Want to play some saturn-y stuff and am having trouble deciding on what to toss in.
IrishNinja
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i believe it's Yuji Naka month, but everyone remembered Let's Tap and decided not to do a thread
Emperor Bohe
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randomly played the arcade version of Elevator Action Returns and had a blast. went to check the prices so that I could buy it on my Saturn...
average price $150?
what thee fuck. I'm starting to think I'm too broke to own a Saturn right now.
average price $150?
what thee fuck. I'm starting to think I'm too broke to own a Saturn right now.
IrishNinja
Member
again, can't state this enough: that's the ebay bubble. it's like $50-75 on forums if you look around & get lucky, i found mine on a mostly EU forum for $40 just this spring.
Emperor Bohe
Member
yeah, I should stay away from ebay. come to think of it I have gotten some good deals in the past from SRK & Racketboy
sixteen-bit
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Emperor Bohe
Member
hmm, not a fan of those large collection type games. I prefer to own each game individually, and yeah I know it ends up being more expensive. I already own a Saturn too, it's just that I'm a bit down on money at the moment due to decreasing work hours in the summer =/
I'll just wait until I can score the game cheaper on a forum somewhere
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
FWIW, I didn't like Elevator Action Returns the first time I played it. That's because I played the Taito Legends 2 version. I seem to recall there being a ton of slowdown (in the US PS2 version.) From what I hear, the Xbox, PC (which is based on MAME, anyway) and JP PS2 releases were a lot more accurate.
kunonabi
Member
lets tap was awesome.
^I need to play it.=O
Just cleaned off my Saturn, wish it was less dusty but still, lol.
use pledge on it and a q-tip for the creases.
IrishNinja
Member
to be fair, i never got a chance to play it, just going on impressions...when it's $5 ill find out!
onken
Member
Ah great news, thought the site (and project) was gone for good.
I caved because of you guys...just bought Elevator Action Returns.
It was a deal, it seems to be like new and I made an offer of 85$+10$ for shipping and he said yes!
Only thing that upsets me is that he has 0 feedback...:/
Hope everything will be fine and dandy.
It was a deal, it seems to be like new and I made an offer of 85$+10$ for shipping and he said yes!
Only thing that upsets me is that he has 0 feedback...:/
Hope everything will be fine and dandy.
sixteen-bit
Member
eBay will have your back regardless
IrishNinja
Member
better price than its going for for sure, and sixteen's right, you won't get ripped. congrats seik!
Congrats, you won't regret it from a gameplay point of view.I caved because of you guys...just bought Elevator Action Returns.
It was a deal, it seems to be like new and I made an offer of 85$+10$ for shipping and he said yes!
Only thing that upsets me is that he has 0 feedback...:/
Hope everything will be fine and dandy.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Good call, Seik. Elevator Action Returns is a fantastic game. I have no idea what compelled me to keep playing it, but I got to the point where I'd played it so much that I could breeze through the game on the toughest difficulty without getting hit. Not many games hook me like that.
Also, Stage 3 is the best stage. It's got a very cool, cinematic feel to it.
Also, Stage 3 is the best stage. It's got a very cool, cinematic feel to it.
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Deleted member 74300
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Well I got Panzer Dragoon II Zwei now. Bastard had so many auto bids on it.
retrogamer84
Member
Goodness, I thought using a model 1 or 2 controller might help with the control on Sonic R but it still is nearly uncontrollable. I really want to like this game, but the controls are just all over the place, sigh.
Shadow Hog
Member
I've never really had that much trouble with it. I mean, you have to wrap your head around the game controlling more like a car-racing game than an on-foot one, and even then it's a bit loose with the turning (although you can turn tighter by using the respective trigger for the direction you're turning toward), but after a little while, it just kinda becomes second-nature.
retrogamer84
Member
Yeah I am going to keep plugging away at it and hope that it clicks at some point. I really like the soundtrack and the game still looks good but I just keep flying off the track around turns.
Bar81
Member
Amazon should never be a place you shop for retro games. I don't even touch ebay auctions without pics. Unless you can see what you are buying, don't waste your money.
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