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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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Unfortunately I can't really test out any of the components with other stuff due to lacking any other SCART-enabled consoles. I think I'm just going to return it and get my money back and attempt my SCART journey later on
Got Donpachi and Thunder Blade V en route to deal with my disappointment
*Loved* Dodonpachi so excited to try out its predecessor.Popful is real jokey and has a lot of dated references from that is the only thing I can think of. Exile 2 is apparently just completely broken. The final boss is basically unkillable due to a programming bug.
Unfortunately I can't really test out any of the components with other stuff due to lacking any other SCART-enabled consoles. I think I'm just going to return it and get my money back and attempt my SCART journey later on
Got Donpachi and Thunder Blade V en route to deal with my disappointment
Yeah it might be better to use the money towards games you want or other things for now in that case. Cables and converters shouldnt go up in price, but the games definitely will.
Yeah. I'll have to check it out again at some point. Would be nice to see the game in its original platform, rather than the PlayStation version.
Triple post, but, I realised I forgot to respond to this:
Thanks.
Maybe we can do a spinoff list too? Could include Sonic and Golden Axe then.
Lemmings 3D
Rise 2: Resurrection
Virtual Hydlide
Sort-of?
MechWarrior 2 <- MechWarrior 3050 was released on Mega Drive
The Lost World Jurassic Park <- The games doesn't really have anything to do with each-other though.
Mega Man 8 <- Jump from 3 to 8
Sequels on Saturn also released on the Mega Drive itself
EarthWorm Jim 2
Lost Vikings 2
Spot Goes To Hollywood
Thanks.
Maybe we can do a spinoff list too? Could include Sonic and Golden Axe then.
MetalKnick
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I'm using Yabause and I don't really like how it has 2 separate rendering options, each with it's own benefits. I really like the high resolution rendering, but that option is a bit weird right now. Does anyone know if the devs are still working on it?
Aside from that minor issue, I'm really loving Shining the Holy Ark. The battle style is turn based, and if you're not using some sort of guide, you're not going to have a good time due to all the pixie things you collect.
Aside from that minor issue, I'm really loving Shining the Holy Ark. The battle style is turn based, and if you're not using some sort of guide, you're not going to have a good time due to all the pixie things you collect.
There are still updates being made to Yabause but progress appears slow to me. I'd love more games to work correctly in the OpenGL mode. Saturn gets battered by PS in the ultra clean bullshots being passed off as original graphics department
Played some Groove on Fight last night, wondering if there are some obscure/lesser known/overlooked fighting games for the system, that are worth picking up.
I've already got a few, some that I actually love (Golden Axe: The Duel, Astra Superstars...), some that left me pretty much uninspired (Suiko Enbu, Pretty Fighter X...).
I'm already eyeing Samurai Spirits 4 (which is not really 'obscure'), maybe Fighters History Dynamite... Suggestions?
I've already got a few, some that I actually love (Golden Axe: The Duel, Astra Superstars...), some that left me pretty much uninspired (Suiko Enbu, Pretty Fighter X...).
I'm already eyeing Samurai Spirits 4 (which is not really 'obscure'), maybe Fighters History Dynamite... Suggestions?
sixteen-bit
Member
I highly, highly recommend Asuka 120% Burining Limited. It's fast, intuitive and fun.
Which reminds me, the team actually made a homebrew follow-up. If I ever get Psuedo Saturn working I need to check it out.
World Heroes Perfect.
Genesis Knight
Member
Agreed, I think it still plays really well. I love all the 90s CGI in the scoreboard animations after goals. Reminds me of the bowling alleys I went to as a kid.
I've got the first and the third game in the Asuka series for the PlayStation. Is the Saturn version any different/better?
I'll check it out. Not a huge fan of the saga, but if the port is solid, it may be a fun one to add to the collection. Thanks!
Love the announcer. Feels like you're watching some footie on the TV in the UK.
blast processed
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Finally got myself a copy of Last Bronx. Only played a couple matches so far, but it seems like a competent fighter.
Really good game man, glad I picked it up. I'm gonna have a youtube playthrough of it to start off 2016.
I'm aiming for a no round lost.=p
JonathanNemo
Member
It was the last one made by the original developers, Fill In Cafe.
It has a surprising amount of depth to its systems, including a parry system.
I believe the Saturn version is even better looking, at least based on footage captured through a Framemeister. All the Youtube footage is unfortunately upscaled and very badly compressed.
There's a patch called "Limit Over" allegedly made by some of the original developers that adjusts the gameplay and adds some new moves. It's pretty easy to acquire now compared to a decade ago, but you'll need a modded Saturn to give it a try.
I know I let InfiniteNine borrow that one, so she can probably tell you more.
I'm just an old fellow who barely plays games now.MetalKnick
Member
There are still updates being made to Yabause but progress appears slow to me. I'd love more games to work correctly in the OpenGL mode. Saturn gets battered by PS in the ultra clean bullshots being passed off as original graphics department
I wish Dolphin devs helped on this emu. I would love to play Saturn games in high resolution with texture filtering and widescreen.
That's alot of fresh informations for me, big thanks!It was the last one made by the original developers, Fill In Cafe.
It has a surprising amount of depth to its systems, including a parry system.
I believe the Saturn version is even better looking, at least based on footage captured through a Framemeister. All the Youtube footage is unfortunately upscaled and very badly compressed.
There's a patch called "Limit Over" allegedly made by some of the original developers that adjusts the gameplay and adds some new moves. It's pretty easy to acquire now compared to a decade ago, but you'll need a modded Saturn to give it a try.
I know I let InfiniteNine borrow that one, so she can probably tell you more.
I've never really went super deep with the Asuka games on the PS, but one sure thing is that I loved the art and the animation, especially in Final. Tracking down the Saturn version sounds like a good idea, at this point.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
Ideally, Shima would make SSF open source, and then there would actually be a good, stable Saturn emulator to expand upon. I doubt that will ever happen though, and since he's now devoting most of his time to developing a PS3 emulator, Saturn emulation probably isn't going to move forward for a very long time...
JonathanNemo
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That's alot of fresh informations for me, big thanks!
I've never really went super deep with the Asuka games on the PS, but one sure thing is that I loved the art and the animation, especially in Final. Tracking down the Saturn version sounds like a good idea, at this point.
Shore.
I also have a few images that were used as case and disk art for Limit Over. Alas, the case art is wayyyyyyy too small to be usable, but maybe it will inspire somebody with time and PhotoShop to whip up something better.
And fun sized thumbnails of the original case art. Hey, don't you sass me, bits were really hard to come by in those dial-up days!
Shadow Hog
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Has anyone ever unlocked Horse 2 in Daytona USA? I know all about the first Horse you unlock, since that comes with the button code, but apparently the only way to unlock Horse 2 is to place first on Three-Seven Speedway's Endurance mode on Normal (with the horse, I think), and my one attempt at that over a decade ago didn't go well.
Supposedly it's a "horse and colt", but I've not found any screenshots or videos of this.
Supposedly it's a "horse and colt", but I've not found any screenshots or videos of this.
blast processed
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After activating Horse (by code or by beating the game, doesn't really matter). Go to Options and set Laps to Endurance. Enter Saturn Mode, Choose Horse(either manual or automatic), Then choose Beginner track. Place 1st and you should be able to play as Horse 2 in Saturn Mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1OWUvErFDI
Shadow Hog
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...this is just a copy-paste from GameFAQs and a link to a video of Horse 1. Not really answering my question, here.
blast processed
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Of course its cut & paste, I'm not going to re-type it & where are you hearing Horse & Colt? The only thing I always knew about, is what I copied.
Edit: Just looked it up. Never knew about the colt.
& where are you hearing Horse & Colt? The only thing I always knew about, is what I copied. Edit: Just looked it up. Never knew about the colt.
Shadow Hog
Member
Right, my point is, I'd already read what GameFAQs had to say on the subject before coming here to ask :V
I wish I could be specific about where I heard the "horse and colt" bit, but not knowing where my copy of it got off to, about all I can say is that it was an old pre-N64 cheatbook. Contained tons of codes for SNES, Genesis, PlayStation and Saturn games, sometimes with accompanying images. Thing was in full-color, and the pages for each system bore color-coded gradients (Genesis was blue, SNES was purple, Saturn was dark blue, PlayStation was orange). Cover was orange, too. Dunno who made it, though.
I wish I could be specific about where I heard the "horse and colt" bit, but not knowing where my copy of it got off to, about all I can say is that it was an old pre-N64 cheatbook. Contained tons of codes for SNES, Genesis, PlayStation and Saturn games, sometimes with accompanying images. Thing was in full-color, and the pages for each system bore color-coded gradients (Genesis was blue, SNES was purple, Saturn was dark blue, PlayStation was orange). Cover was orange, too. Dunno who made it, though.
You can definitely unlock it by placing first in the endurance race with the first horse. Horse two is a big horse and a smaller horse running at its side. I unlocked it back in the day when I was actually good at the game (= only that game to play). I'm not sure if there was a cheat code for it, but there isn't much info on it on the internet. And no screenshots, which is annoying as it feels it's starting to become an urban legend.
The horses are kind of a bitch to control, but very powerful once you get used to it. I believe I only managed to get first in Endurance mode with the horse, not with a car.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The main advantage of the horses was that they didn't slow down or lose control on grass, but they would lose more speed than normal when you collided with the wall.
The green and pink cars also did not slow down on grass.
The black and orange cars did not slow down when rubbing up against the wall unless you hit it at a hard angle.
The green and pink cars also did not slow down on grass.
The black and orange cars did not slow down when rubbing up against the wall unless you hit it at a hard angle.
blast processed
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Here is the Horse and Colt pics and video, for the curious. Sorry for the crappy pics and video my phone blows.
Brown Horse & Colt is Manual
https://youtu.be/8i5pQu9qHXc
White Horse and Colt is Automatic
https://youtu.be/WDfQVMmJ2fE
Interesting since I didn't know about this until yesterday. AR code allowed me to do this.
Brown Horse & Colt is Manual
https://youtu.be/8i5pQu9qHXc
White Horse and Colt is Automatic
https://youtu.be/WDfQVMmJ2fE
Interesting since I didn't know about this until yesterday. AR code allowed me to do this.
blast processed
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Thanks! $10 at Goodwill it's a good size for the space.
Shadow Hog
Member
I have a Sony that looks pretty similar to that, but it cost me $35. It's like 100lbs, too! Took me a while to find a TV stand that'd hold that much weight, and I haven't even gotten around to putting the stand in place and the TV on top of it... At least it has component.
And thanks! This is literally the first time I've actually seen Horse 2 at all, beyond hearsay in cheatbooks or on cheat sites. I should probably try unlocking it myself...
And thanks! This is literally the first time I've actually seen Horse 2 at all, beyond hearsay in cheatbooks or on cheat sites. I should probably try unlocking it myself...
It's a cool gimmick, but not worth doing the 80 laps of Endurance mode imo.
MetalKnick
Member
I never understood the whole closed source thing. When has good ever come out of emulators not being open source?
You mean the official 4megs cart, or one of those 4-in-1 Action Replay Plus? Because if it's the latter, yeah, they can get quite temperamental at times. Mine never gave me troubles when it comes to data management, but it happens that SNK games fail to detect it, every now and then.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
Probably figures there might be money in his emulator someday. After all, Sega did buy GiriGiri years ago.
JonathanNemo
Member
I've never had problems with the Action Replay RAM cart necessarily, but mine's one of the white models that had the serial port on top. I know there's been other variations since, I never bothered keeping track of the changes.
One issue that I have had is with the cartridge slot, which is known to deteriorate over time. If your problem is with that silly slot, then a new RAM cart isn't going to help the situation.
One issue that I have had is with the cartridge slot, which is known to deteriorate over time. If your problem is with that silly slot, then a new RAM cart isn't going to help the situation.
JonathanNemo
Member
The Sega RAM carts should be, and tbh I see no good reason to talk you out of getting an honest to goodness Sega Saturn SHIRO.
besides saving money maybe
JonathanNemo
Member
Yeah, Japanese Saturn is 100% NTSC friendly, no PALs in sight. That's what InfiniteNine uses with her setup and it works great.
Looks much nicer than my black, Genesis-wannabe thing.
D.Lo
Member
Also the first western Saturn controller... what were they thinking.
Strangely the exact process repeated on the original Xbox with the 'I'm holding two huge potatoes' original duke controller. Played into the 'fat american cheeto hands' jokes at the time lol.
I've been running a white Hong Kong Saturn for... a long long time. Sometime in the 90s.
It needed a whitening treatment a couple of years ago however, one advantage of the black model.
Strangely the exact process repeated on the original Xbox with the 'I'm holding two huge potatoes' original duke controller. Played into the 'fat american cheeto hands' jokes at the time lol.
I've been running a white Hong Kong Saturn for... a long long time. Sometime in the 90s.
It needed a whitening treatment a couple of years ago however, one advantage of the black model.