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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
- Thread starter Seik
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Bought myself a little retro-bundle, to begin the new year with a smile! Got JP games for the Mega Drive, Mega CD, PSP and the Saturn, specifically Vampire Savior (the regular edition, yet complete, with spine and reg card) and that wonky Ultraman fighting game (guilty pleasure... I know it's mediocre at best, but I love Ultraman, and I'm a big fan of the Fighting Evolution series, so I thought to add this one too to my collection).
It's all coming from Japan, so I'll update with some impressions once I get the package.
It's all coming from Japan, so I'll update with some impressions once I get the package.
PS2 Taito Collection is 480i, so the image quality takes a hit, and apparently the emulation isn't 100% perfect.
hardcoregaming101 said:
Thanks guys.Good old Last Bronx... Gonna watchand sub.
That's coming on Wednesday.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
Interesting Saturn stuff from around the web:
"Jo Engine is a 2D game engine for the Sega Saturn written in C under MIT license.
It allows users to develop games easily without extensive knowledge in embedded development.
And... games can run on an emulator and the original system!"
http://www.jo-engine.org/
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And don't expect much if any progress in Saturn emulation this year:
"SSFの方はちょっと行き詰った感がある。報告のあった現象も原因はイマイチ分からないし。アセンブリ言語からC言語に変更しても直らないようだしなぁ。お手上げ状態かも。"
Machine translation says something along the lines of "SSF is stalled." And something to do with C and assembly langauge.
"とりあえず、今年はPS3Fをメインにしていこうと思う。"
Shima appears to be dedicating 2016 to working on PS3F instead.
So yeah... Hope for some big leaps from Yabause this year because I'll doubt we'll see anything out of SSF.
"Jo Engine is a 2D game engine for the Sega Saturn written in C under MIT license.
It allows users to develop games easily without extensive knowledge in embedded development.
And... games can run on an emulator and the original system!"
http://www.jo-engine.org/
--------------------------------
And don't expect much if any progress in Saturn emulation this year:
"SSFの方はちょっと行き詰った感がある。報告のあった現象も原因はイマイチ分からないし。アセンブリ言語からC言語に変更しても直らないようだしなぁ。お手上げ状態かも。"
Machine translation says something along the lines of "SSF is stalled." And something to do with C and assembly langauge.
"とりあえず、今年はPS3Fをメインにしていこうと思う。"
Shima appears to be dedicating 2016 to working on PS3F instead.
So yeah... Hope for some big leaps from Yabause this year because I'll doubt we'll see anything out of SSF.
sixteen-bit
Member
Also, the Saturn version of EAR lets you bind grenade to a separate button. PS2 version is emulated arcade release, which only had 2 buttons IIRC.
Definitely was a wallet killer around that time. I was lucky to findone for 80$.It wasnt a wallet killer a year or so ago
Right now it's probably cheaper to get the arcade kit lol
Bought mine for 37 euro in April 2014 and was on the verge to skyrocketing.
I don't think so.
ResidentDante
Member
The guy should make the code available for everyone now.
I don't know, I think you must have been REALLY lucky, because - as far as I remember - the game was already quite pricey in 2014.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
I was told by one of the guys on the project that they were close to release. That was last summer, and it's still not out. :\
He should, but I doubt he ever will.
I'd like to get some more friends over to play Saturn Bomberman. What I'd like to know is are the multitaps region free like the system itself, when it comes to controllers? Can I buy the japanese multitap - on my modded PAL system - (or the bomberman multitap) and use my PAL controller, my Japanese controller and my 3D analog pad with it?
It was a good deal.
The game was hovering over 40 euro since mid 2013 which is when I started keeping an eye on it.
Saturn Memories
Neo Member
Peripherals aren't region locked. I've got a US multi-tap that I use with my Japanese systems. It works fine.
IrishNinja
Member
ebay bucks came in today, looking to finally grab Silhouette Mirage later! saturn high wants are down, its just hopes for a cheap copy of three dirty dwarves, maybe mansion of hidden souls & the like
gonna refer back to this! tied up Shining CD, moved onto 2, i know i need to play Ark before the later scenarios of 3, and honestly i could prolly use a break from the strategy stuff so i was eyeing a playthrough of that one soon...Shining in the Darkness wasn't easy, but i loved the dungeon crawling. how's this one stack up, harder? easier /more fair or enjoyable?
oh man, i was just hyping your stuff over at the sega forums, that's awesome
having played both, i think the answer is not much at all - it's pretty good, and you get a bunch of other great games too
funny enough, i commented on a game sack video a while back about how they should cover EAR in a run & gun ep, and pretty sure joe replied he would if they did a walk & gun ep, haha
seriously - again, look at what happened just last fall alone, from sold ebay prices. insane.
sadly no, havent looked it up in a bit but this & Snatcher are the kinda efforts i think will really get talk when they go down
ehhh when i got mine in the spring of '14, i was shooting for <$50 and lucked out, but it was like $100 by summer i wanna say? could be off here, but it got particularly bad this year, again
shit, that's scary stuff man...godspeed, and post back!
gonna refer back to this! tied up Shining CD, moved onto 2, i know i need to play Ark before the later scenarios of 3, and honestly i could prolly use a break from the strategy stuff so i was eyeing a playthrough of that one soon...Shining in the Darkness wasn't easy, but i loved the dungeon crawling. how's this one stack up, harder? easier /more fair or enjoyable?
oh man, i was just hyping your stuff over at the sega forums, that's awesome
having played both, i think the answer is not much at all - it's pretty good, and you get a bunch of other great games too
funny enough, i commented on a game sack video a while back about how they should cover EAR in a run & gun ep, and pretty sure joe replied he would if they did a walk & gun ep, haha
It wasnt a wallet killer a year or so ago
seriously - again, look at what happened just last fall alone, from sold ebay prices. insane.
sadly no, havent looked it up in a bit but this & Snatcher are the kinda efforts i think will really get talk when they go down
ehhh when i got mine in the spring of '14, i was shooting for <$50 and lucked out, but it was like $100 by summer i wanna say? could be off here, but it got particularly bad this year, again
shit, that's scary stuff man...godspeed, and post back!
I must be mistaking it for another game, then. Because I could've sworn Elevator Action was on the '100 Euros +' list since ages, now (not just a little bit more than one year).
IrishNinja
Member
honestly, you could be right - i always based my pricing off ebay sold (auctions, not buy-it-nows). maybe it did go for that already & i didnt notice? i mean, that'd explain my shock at the jump it;'s seen, at least a little
blast processed
Member
That's good. Do they take a layer off the disc, or fill in? Was always curious.
take off
The music throughout that game is also some of the greatest to grace any Japanese RPG
blast processed
Member
I wouldn't put Burning Rangers anywhere near a top 12 game, even if your doing a US only list. Not going to argue with 1-4 though.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Cool. We can finally get that 2D Sonic game for the Saturn that should have happened back in 1995.
sixteen-bit
Member
When's the Freedom Planet port?
Obligatory video of the engine in action:
https://youtu.be/gV-7cA9_h-4
What he's saying:
He has burned the game on a regular CDR disc
There not much gameplay as he focused on the game engine optimisation
Semi-transparent water, lots of smaller effects
In-game camera needs to be worked on
The engine is super smooth, which was the most important
Next step is to add all the gameplay elements: rings, better map, enemies...
Stop making me want things.
yup I would not include Burning Rangers in the top 12 either. Although it has it's fun moments there are also quite a lot of frustrating elements which sours things and I hate the way you cannot stand still for brief moments to enjoy the scenery and instead you get random explosions aimed at your ass to force you to complete your objectives.
Sad to see there is no Dragon Force or Shining in the Holy Ark in there either.
My Fighters MegaMix youtube playthrough.
I'm using svideo through an upscaler to get full 60 FPS since the game is in that awful 480i res that I hate so much.
I'm using svideo through an upscaler to get full 60 FPS since the game is in that awful 480i res that I hate so much.
The picture quality is terrific
but do you ever use her gun attack?!
Piston Hyundai
Member
Asking this again because I haven't figured anything out since I asked. I doubt there's a solution, but maybe I'm just missing something.
Ha, what's funny is that it's not even an official first party svideo cable, just a cheap aftermarket one. The upscaler used is perfect for 240p games and de-interlaces 480i games only in motion. Oh and setting the res to 1440p in Youtube increases the quality more than 720p and even 1080p.
I don't believe I did yet.
sixteen-bit
Member
No Kidding. I recently found out about the Castle of Illusion / Quackshot double pack on Saturn. RIP.
What upscaler are you using?
I haven't found them to be too terrible to grab with a little patience. Even Power Drift!
Space Harrier continues to elude me, though. I'd like to get ready, but I'm not.
Bar81
Member
Yup. I just picked up the US triple pack - it was painful.
back forward P+K!
it does half health and you can enter it 3 times in a row!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The "reload" SFX was a nice touch.
IrishNinja
Member
so Shining 3 would've been here today, but UPS lost the apt # somehow...tomorrow it is!
collection sounds amazing - yeah, i started with the Sega Memorial 1/2, then got Fantasy Zone & the US 3-pack...i know i lost a few tracks but i'm okay with it. Power drift would be cool though!
aw man, what's that go for now?
more Harrier is always good - what's a good deal on Power Drift?
collection sounds amazing - yeah, i started with the Sega Memorial 1/2, then got Fantasy Zone & the US 3-pack...i know i lost a few tracks but i'm okay with it. Power drift would be cool though!
aw man, what's that go for now?
I haven't found them to be too terrible to grab with a little patience. Even Power Drift!
Space Harrier continues to elude me, though. I'd like to get ready, but I'm not.
more Harrier is always good - what's a good deal on Power Drift?
I use an Inline 1402 scaler. It's perfect for 240p content and works very well with even 480i content. Mine does composite and svideo but there are other models than can do RGB and component.
As of now it's the only way I can even record N64 games.