soooo good
best fatal fury! sorry garou
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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best fatal fury! sorry garou
And since it's 240p, it'll definitely be captured in RGB!!!
Then again, most Saturn games are in 240p so my custom scart cable with audio out will get a lot of use.
I've seen it well under $50 when it's missing the spine and/or registration cards. Complete for around $50.
The main problem is that it shows up less frequently than the other Sega Ages releases, and when it does it's closer to $100 (and goes unsold). Mickey and Donald has a similar problem, and can be had for a fair amount less than its typical auction price.
Genesis Knight
Member
Only Quake 2 made it to PSX IIRC.
blast processed
Member
Quake 2 was on the N64 and PSX
Quake 1 was on the N64 and Saturn
Even if Quake 2 was ported to the Saturn, I don't think it would have run that great. Some of Quake 2's outdoor environments are pretty big.
IrishNinja
Member
damn...sounds about right for a lotta stuff ive watched, though. resellers in no hurry to drop the price & make a sale either, worse yet the ones taking offers don't really want offers.
i used to just watch whatever yamatokku/hit japan etc would start at a penny, and frequently bought stuff on the cheap just to justify the shipping, haha - but most sega ages stuff stayed a bit higher than i'd wanted, even then. maybe down the road!
Shadow Hog
Member
I'd imagine the overlap isn't too strong, seeing as the N64 didn't come out until '96, didn't really get going until '97, and the Saturn was basically dead by '98.
Genesis Knight
Member
I just meant Quake 1 didn't make it to the PSX. And there's a guy building out a Quake 2 for Jaguar that's pretty good considering the hardware, I'm sure Saturn could have handled some kind of Quake 2 port. In Lobotomy we trust.
Yeah, hence why I asked the question, could be interesting.
Glad you like it! Cool game; gets pretty tough as it goes on.
I just ordered Batsugun
IrishNinja
Member
I just ordered Batsugun
^BALLLLLLINNNN'
haha for real, that and Garegga are some of the expensive ones i legit think are great/fun to play, so congrats & hope you got a fair deal!
Haha, thanks. I'm looking forward to it! As others have mentioned, many of these rarer Saturn games seem like they retain (if not increase in some cases) their value over time, so it makes the price a little easier to swallow. At least, that's how I'm justifying it
Paid $165 USD for a good CIB off a seller I've used quite a few times.
IrishNinja
Member
oh yeah, 16-bit's on the money - you're not gonna lose $ on that. and again, it's a good SHMUP too! enjoy~
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I got my copy of Vampire Hunter from Gyrian in! Can't wait to dig into it.
Trying to find a move list beforehand but I only keep coming up with VH2.
Trying to find a move list beforehand but I only keep coming up with VH2.
Timu, the next time you're recording, could you record something for me? if it's a pain in the ass don't worry about it, but your captures are really terrific and I'd like to make some VF2 saturn gifs. here's what I'm looking for:
- Wolf reversing Lion's side kick (down-forward kick)
- Lion escaping Wolf's back throw
- Lion's winpose for an excellent win on the last round of any stage
if you have options+ unlocked (hit R twice on the options screen) you can skip right to Wolf's stage, basically for the side kick all you have to do is keep doing the move and eventually he'll reverse it. for the back throw, pretty much any time wolf blocks something big (like Lion's up+P or up+B on saturn) he'll throw you and most of the time he'll use back throw, to escape it just enter back+A+B after he blocks the move.
i realize this is a tall order so i won't take it personally if you're not up to it.
- Wolf reversing Lion's side kick (down-forward kick)
- Lion escaping Wolf's back throw
- Lion's winpose for an excellent win on the last round of any stage
if you have options+ unlocked (hit R twice on the options screen) you can skip right to Wolf's stage, basically for the side kick all you have to do is keep doing the move and eventually he'll reverse it. for the back throw, pretty much any time wolf blocks something big (like Lion's up+P or up+B on saturn) he'll throw you and most of the time he'll use back throw, to escape it just enter back+A+B after he blocks the move.
i realize this is a tall order so i won't take it personally if you're not up to it.
IrishNinja
Member
so i was testing out my new (to me!) copy of Shining Force III last night, just to make sure it works before leaving feedback - only watched the intro & started the game, disc looks great and i didn't wanna spoil more, since im not even halfway done with SF II right now
...but man, a lot came back to me. it was really cool.
like, my older brother was atari generation; i played it a bit, but by the time i was in grade school, the NES was showing up everywhere. for years, 8bit was everything, and as a sega fan, they just killed it with the genesis (still my favorite system!)...and even during the war with the SNES, it felt like everyone was winning. the bar, of course, was the arcades, and i recall thinking we'd mostly keep on until everything looked like that, or a photo-realistic neo geo or something? haha i'm not really sure.
but the 32-bit gen's transition to 3D was huge, in a way no other gen since has been for me. tons of new experiences, but seeing familiar franchises adopted - from amazing shit like Mario 64, to not-so-much like Castlevania - was crazy exciting. changes in gameplay/pacing and the like were jarring sometimes, but jeremy parish was quite right to highlight how very not en vogue 2D was for years to come, a few exceptions aside.
so now we've kinda come full circle: 2D's cool again, and a lotta people tell me5th gen stuff is ugly somehow (i mean, sure, stretched on an LCD screen) - but after so many hours going through Shining Force CD & now part 2, just seeing a bit of the changes for the first time was really cool! i'm legit hyped to play this & Ark soon enough, and see how the series' art style & popular spells/etc transfer, nevermind hear CD audio. it kinda clicked that while part of me is beating myself up for not having gotten around to this sooner, i'm really hyped to have so much more of my next favorite sega RPG series (after Phantasy Star) to run through & see it develop.
...but man, a lot came back to me. it was really cool.
like, my older brother was atari generation; i played it a bit, but by the time i was in grade school, the NES was showing up everywhere. for years, 8bit was everything, and as a sega fan, they just killed it with the genesis (still my favorite system!)...and even during the war with the SNES, it felt like everyone was winning. the bar, of course, was the arcades, and i recall thinking we'd mostly keep on until everything looked like that, or a photo-realistic neo geo or something? haha i'm not really sure.
but the 32-bit gen's transition to 3D was huge, in a way no other gen since has been for me. tons of new experiences, but seeing familiar franchises adopted - from amazing shit like Mario 64, to not-so-much like Castlevania - was crazy exciting. changes in gameplay/pacing and the like were jarring sometimes, but jeremy parish was quite right to highlight how very not en vogue 2D was for years to come, a few exceptions aside.
so now we've kinda come full circle: 2D's cool again, and a lotta people tell me5th gen stuff is ugly somehow (i mean, sure, stretched on an LCD screen) - but after so many hours going through Shining Force CD & now part 2, just seeing a bit of the changes for the first time was really cool! i'm legit hyped to play this & Ark soon enough, and see how the series' art style & popular spells/etc transfer, nevermind hear CD audio. it kinda clicked that while part of me is beating myself up for not having gotten around to this sooner, i'm really hyped to have so much more of my next favorite sega RPG series (after Phantasy Star) to run through & see it develop.
Galactic.
BTW there are several hidden characters in Shining Force III part 1. game. One is an egg which if I recall correctly was a pain to level up but a fun character to use. the other looks like a chun li look-alike and perhaps a few more other characters to discover. Also when you beat the game you will unlock a difficulty and music test option. WATCH OUT for spells and enemy magic attacks later on.. the flashing is really intense you might get a seizure from them..
IrishNinja
Member
good to know! still haven't decided if i'm gonna play that or Ark first (didn't one of you guys say it ties into to one of the scenarios), also im thinking i'll play my US version and then look up what the changes were online after im done, wanna say i read the saves will work on scenarios 2 & 3 (i have all of em JP as well as fan translated now)
If memory serves me well I think there is a little child you help in holy ark returns in Shining Force III...
I got my copy of Vampire Hunter from Gyrian in! Can't wait to dig into it.
Trying to find a move list beforehand but I only keep coming up with VH2.
Ha, my copy just arrived right now!
Shadow Hog
Member
If I recall correctly, an entire Scenario is dedicated to him.
Movalpolos
Banned
Subbed!
Started collecting Saturn games about 4 years ago now.
Currently addicted to Elevator Action Returns. Such a great fucking game, reminds me of Rolling Thunder 3. The animations are top notch, it has impact. Playing it co-op is a blast as well.
I do play on original hardware. It's what I prefer. But I have a question about one game in particular that just runs like ass on Saturn but I'm absolutely in love with the visuals and gameplay.
In The Hunt. Does emulating fix the crippling slowdown? Is there a "definitive" version of this game?
Started collecting Saturn games about 4 years ago now.
Currently addicted to Elevator Action Returns. Such a great fucking game, reminds me of Rolling Thunder 3. The animations are top notch, it has impact. Playing it co-op is a blast as well.
I do play on original hardware. It's what I prefer. But I have a question about one game in particular that just runs like ass on Saturn but I'm absolutely in love with the visuals and gameplay.
In The Hunt. Does emulating fix the crippling slowdown? Is there a "definitive" version of this game?
...I might just do a playthrough, lol. I hope I can do Virtua Fighter 3 on Dreamcast as well. I just uploaded my Fighting Vipers 2 playthrough recently.
Also, did you watch the Fighter MegaMix vid in 1440p@60 FPS? That's the best way to experience it, though you need Chrome for that.
ienjoyrawfish
Member
I prefer Layer Section (I refuse to use that stupid title they gave for the Western releases).
Difficult to compare as they have little in common, but probably a useful comparison because they're the two best affordable Saturn shooters so lots of people will start with one or the other when amassing a collection.
Speaking of Saturn Real Bout Special and sound issues... During (spoiler-tagging it because... Who knows lol)
Blue Mary's Blues ending song
s_mirage
Member
I concur but with a caveat: the Saturn version of Layer Section is missing effects unless played in Tate mode. Since I don't have a vertical capable monitor, that might push me in the direction of Darius if I was buying.
Incidentally, what were Taito smoking when they named that game? RayForce, Gunlock, Layer Section, and Galactic Attack, all for one game.
It was just my ground loop isolater, I just removed it and that solved it.
I want to do one with Blue Mary!
cj_iwakura
Member
Yes. I enjoyed it a lot. The game so nice, I bought it twice.
(I have one of each version.)
sixteen-bit
Member
Layer Section vs Darius Gaiden is hard to pick. I like both so much.
Movalpolos
Banned
So, any way to fix the slowdown on In The Hunt using emulation?
I don't use/know emulators, so take my suggestion for what it is... Try the PlayStation port, if you have the chance. I keep reading it's better than the Saturn game, in the slowdown department.
It really is. I'm more attached to Real Bout, but that's for personal reasons... Special is a hugely superior game.
Oh, and if you have the chance, would you mind checking out if the audio and the images are perfectly synced during the ending song?
I've been on the fence about checking this one out; is the slowdown *really* that bad?
My girlfriend ordered me the Konami MSX Collection so I'm pretty excited for that, Lol. The CGR review totally won me over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zptRt7tBEVo
sixteen-bit
Member
I gotta play RBS sometime. It looks cool!
Great shots! Game's graphics - and animations - truly are remarkable.
And about the sync issue, my disc is pretty much brand new, and it still happens. Also tested the game with the official RAM cart, other than the AR Plus, but anything changed.
Btw, no rush, I'm just curious about it.
blast processed
Member
Some of it is bad to the point where it's not helpful, but hurtful.
Of course.