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If you like Virtua Fighter 2, Soul Blade and games running at 60 fps, get it. It's a great game.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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If you like Virtua Fighter 2, Soul Blade and games running at 60 fps, get it. It's a great game.
Gunstarheroes
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What's the bonus disc in the Japanese version?
For me the dpad just feels the best. The select button is good too though. Wish there was a good solution to use it on 360 and possibly Xbox one for Cuphead.
D.Lo
Member
She's a 'nerd' because the Mega Drive was only for 'nerds' (old school arcade fans?) in Japan.
It's basically an advanced training mode.
Even though the Saturn port is solid and totally remarkable, if you're looking for a true Last Bronx experience at home - and you can play Japanese games on your PS2 - I always recommend the SEGA AGES 2500 port. It's among the best volumes in the series, as it can be played at different resolutions and at a faithful 57.5hz (other than classic 60). It's a straight arcade port, so it lacks all the extras to be found in the Saturn LB, but it adds little touches thanks to the more powerful hardware, such as the opportunity to play with two metal characters at the same time.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Cool I'll buy it.
Movalpolos
Banned
Playing Outrun for the first time in smooth 60 fps mode with the Saturn wheel. It works really well! Love this game, one of my favorites from AM2.
Also playing with the arrange soundtrack and I think I like it better than the arcade version.
Also playing with the arrange soundtrack and I think I like it better than the arcade version.
StevieWhite
Member
Here's a vid of it I found on youtube...
https://youtu.be/g8UqKBzAu-A
Like I said, difficult to follow w/o Japanese, but it appears to go much deeper than your standard fighting game training mode. I think Oneida might know a thing or two about it - I believe he commented on a post I wrote about LB once.
sixteen-bit
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SeHa girls was so fucking good spoilers
I'll totally buy it on Blu. I heard a crossover game with the Neptunia franchise is coming as well.
that ending ;_;
I'll totally buy it on Blu. I heard a crossover game with the Neptunia franchise is coming as well.
And my brand new, Japanese copy of Enemy Zero I odered last weekend, arrived today. It was meant to replace my old copy, which had the nice 3D front cover, but came with a pretty ugly spine card and no registration card at all.
Since my idea was to simply stick the holo-cover into the new copy, I was wondering: did the first print of the game come with the 3D insert over the standard paper sheet, or just with the former alone (Satakore doesn't really help in this regard)?
Since my idea was to simply stick the holo-cover into the new copy, I was wondering: did the first print of the game come with the 3D insert over the standard paper sheet, or just with the former alone (Satakore doesn't really help in this regard)?
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
Is what I'm seeing on ebay true--about $80 minimum for a working, good condition Saturn with one controller?
Movalpolos
Banned
That's a bit on the steep end, but Saturn has become pretty popular in the past few years for retro enthusiasts. Around $60 I think should still be the norm.
I think the arcade OST is untouchable, but the arrange soundtrack on the Saturn version is surprisingly good.
Movalpolos
Banned
Does Action Replay work on a Japanese Saturn to play US games?
I actually just recently got a working Japanese Saturn and I have Action Replay so I could test it myself, but I kind of don't want to take it out of the slot on my US unit. I hear that it can get damaged pretty easily.
I actually just recently got a working Japanese Saturn and I have Action Replay so I could test it myself, but I kind of don't want to take it out of the slot on my US unit. I hear that it can get damaged pretty easily.
AR 4MP can play US games on a JP Saturn.
Movalpolos
Banned
Awesome, thanks!
blast processed
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Same. The retro store I visit never had any Saturn titles. I asked if any come in and he said never. Unless he's BSing me and sells them on EBay, which could very well be.
I gave up going to Retro stores for Saturn stuff. The majority has the same three games. NHL 97, NBA feat Kobe Bryant, and Black Fire. It was a miracle I got Manx TT and STCC from a store a few years ago.
StevieWhite
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If you live around Philly, Classic Gaming Junkie in Glenside usually has a good bit. Selection is always weird though. Loads of import DC games as well.
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I live right outside of Philly but have yet to make my way there. Good to know thanks. I sometime visit Jay St in Plymouth Meeting or King of Prussia, but since they downsized, not much is there.
IrishNinja
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damn, i wish we had that here in MIA - there's one guy that sells saturn imports occasionally, but most times he mentions AGES/capcom collection type shit id be after, i show up and he's mostly got H stuff
I wish there was a CGJ store in Richmond, I saw them on Game Chasers and I frowned up.
StevieWhite
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You should come to the Philly thread! CGJ is good, they have a location in Westchester as well. They have some weird stuff. The selection is downright puzzling at times, though. About 5 copies of Dark Wizard for SCD last time I was there.
StevieWhite
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I installed my mod chip at last. Hopefully, I didn't fuck it up. So far, it boots normal games well. Now I need to... Ah... create a backup of a game I already own.
I use my Pseudo Saturn for THE EXACT SAME THING.
IrishNinja
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so Burning Rangers is on hold, trying to power my way through where i left off in the towers/tail end of Albert Odyssey to clean this backlog a bit tonight!
enjoy man! you can now also enjoy fan translations of stuff like Shining Force III scenarios 2 & 3, or premium disc, if you're down for that! oh, and weird builds of sonic xtreme too, haha
I installed my mod chip at last. Hopefully, I didn't fuck it up. So far, it boots normal games well. Now I need to... Ah... create a backup of a game I already own.
enjoy man! you can now also enjoy fan translations of stuff like Shining Force III scenarios 2 & 3, or premium disc, if you're down for that! oh, and weird builds of sonic xtreme too, haha
cj_iwakura
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Bar81
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I installed my mod chip at last. Hopefully, I didn't fuck it up. So far, it boots normal games well. Now I need to... Ah... create a backup of a game I already own.
Who sells modchips?
Got mine from here like 2 years ago. Don't know if they still sell any. I do know that my chip is outdated, and there's a simpler universal plug and play one out there - so I've heard.
Bar81
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Doesn't look like it.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
there's a way to flash a Pro Action Replay to play imports and...stuff.
The Pseudo Saturn bootloader? Yeah that's cool, you can play your copies without a modchip, but you still need a modded saturn to install the stuff into the Action Replay.
http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/saturn-proof-of-concept-bootloader-pseudo-saturn.52526/
I don't think it bypasses the region-lock though, you still need to patch the iso you create from your original import disc.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
not according this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SegaSaturn/comments/32rerh/easy_guide_to_play_backupsimports_on_saturn/
do need to unscrew it and tape a switch though
It's not THE EXACT SAME THING though. You still need an action replay which, for my purposes, only gets in the way. I want to use the SNK RAM cart specifically for some SNK games that don't play well with the AR cart. Specifically, Metal Slug which a lot of Saturn owners wrongly accused of being a bad port plagued with slow down. Little do they know, that it requires the HSS-0150 RAM cart to run smoothly.
I stumbled upon a very nice copy of Rabbit, but I remember a fellow gaffer - was it you, sixteen-bit? - stated it's a crappy port from the arcade original. Do you mind giving me a few more details? There aren't many Rabbit-arcade videos on YouTube, and the Saturn version - especially once the zoom feature is disabled - doesn't seem to play terribly bad, in comparison (at least, it doesn't immediately scream 'garbage', like Fatal Fury 3 or Waku Waku 7). It's not a case of 'I really want the game, so I'll buy it anyway', but it's complete and in very nice conditions, at a reasonable price, plus I'm always intrigued by obscure Saturn exclusives... If it's total crap, I won't mind and just forget about it, though.
StevieWhite
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Yeah, that's a fair point. I wasn't really criticizing the use of a mod board, so much as I was winking and nodding at the backups comment. Hope I wasn't misconstrued.
Ah, OK, I wasn't too sure about the intent behind your post. My bad. *winks and nods back*
sixteen-bit
Member
Please don't let me stop you. This is the only home port afterall and I don't feel like it's worth tracking down the PCB for the game. It's not like it's a tentpole title in the fighting genre or anything.
Oh nono, don't worry. I was wondering if it was a case of objectively craptastic quality - in wich case I wouldn't feel bad at all to just ignore the game and look somewhere else - or more something like 'not quite arcade accurate, yet still enjoyable in its own right'.
And yeah, unfortunately - or luckily enough, depending on how you look at it
- I'm not a PCB/arcade collector, so the Saturn version would be my only way to go.The final three options are:
Start
Continue using password
Continue using RAM save
What I don't know is the two option before what are...
Eh I'm not so sure about that. I have an old Action Replay with the Parallel port on top, which needed a hardware patch for some games. I compared the slowdowns before and after soldering the wire, and with an official 1M RAM cartridge, and saw no difference. It has slowdowns at some points, one very noticeable being the stone slope with two tanks right before the first boss.
Maybe it has some terrible slowdowns everywhere with some other version of the 4M Action Replay and that would be what people are talking about, but in my experience the game has some slowdowns which were not corrected by changing cartridge.
I wish I grabbed that when it was much cheaper. Graphics look great and Hudson Soft should deserve better credit for the games they bought out for the Saturn.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Just got an S-Video cable in for my Saturn, and man, the difference from composite is like you guys said it was. Thanks for the input.
now if only I had a CRT with S-Video
IrishNinja
Member
tied up Albert Odyssey last night! went back in, and damn....the encounter rates in those towers are rough, but that S&M chick fight is brutal. also, 3 forms of a final boss with no break to heal is a total crapshot...it looks & sounds great by me, but it's still in the "good for a b-tier RPG" category. fun game, and in that pre/just post FF VII window of people playing stuff like Wild ARMs/etc, i would've been all over it - but those looking to pay $100+ for it in 2k16, i hope you've already exhausted Saga/Dragon Force/better stuff, is all. not to disparage it, but it's not at the top of the pile, you know?
gonna see if i can run through Burning Rangers before 4 in februrary runs out, then it's either tie up the PSX RPGs i got far in (Grandia, Arc) or maybe MKR here, not sure yet!
gonna see if i can run through Burning Rangers before 4 in februrary runs out, then it's either tie up the PSX RPGs i got far in (Grandia, Arc) or maybe MKR here, not sure yet!
Piston Hyundai
Member
That's a Working Designs game, right? How was the dialogue in the "S&M chick fight?"
IrishNinja
Member
exactly as you'd picture it, haha...vic loved dropping that stuff about on NPC's anyway, and here was a character in black leather & a whip, so that was pretty much as far as her character went.
before & after (pardon the drunken blurriness, haha)
...yikes