You'd probably have been happier with a PC back in the day, eh.
But you're missing Exhumed / Powerslave! The one game that is actually different from its DOS counterpart.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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You'd probably have been happier with a PC back in the day, eh.
But you're missing Exhumed / Powerslave! The one game that is actually different from its DOS counterpart.
blast processed
Member
Powerslave plays sooo good on the Saturn. Also not fps, but Cyberia is a really good port from the DOS version.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
I have Pal numbers for most of the pre Dreamcast formats. Sega Rally was the top selling PAL Saturn game.
Daytona USA Circuit Edition (1997) TRIBUTE (16:9 OPTIMIZED)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-AYCoKQsMg
Nice tribute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-AYCoKQsMg
Nice tribute!
Shin Johnpv
Member
Actually added a Saturn game to my collection, friend sold it to me at a really fair price.
Okay, so I've worked your numbers in conjunction to NPD and Japanese software sales, and this the top 10 I've gotten:
01. Virtua Fighter 2 - 2,600,000
02. Sega Rally Championship - 1,440,000
02. Daytona USA - 1,420,000
03. Virtua Cop - 1,280,000
05. Virtua Fighter - 1,080,000
06. NiGHTS into Dreams... - 740,000
07. Fighters Megamix - 720,000
08. Panzer Dragoon - 580,000
09. Sakura Wars - 560,000
10. Super Robot Taisen F - 550,000
Hardware Sales: 9.26 million
Obviously, it isn't 100% accurate, but it gives a vague idea of what a Top 10 Saturn WW Software sales would look like. For what its worth, it does seem like VF2 and Sega Rally are the most popular games on the system.
I know this is the Saturn thread, but I have to put this here also
Nice huh?
AmyS said:Check out this video of a local, (LAN?) 4-player PS3 / Logitech G27 Daytona USA setup.
I didn't know it was possible to have a LAN / system link like that with 4x PS3s. How do you guys think this was done? could it be they're all connected to PSN? I'll be the first to admit I don't know a whole lot about networking.
Nice huh?
This rules! I've thought about doing the same thing (in light of the PS3s/LCDs being the cheapest they ever have been) but unfortunately I don't think the PS3 version of Daytona supports LAN gameplay -- you're at the mercy of the game being hosted on PSN, which is sort of a bummer...
That is a bummer if so, especially given that the same port team did Oratorio Tangram on 360 with LAN play.
That's pretty much what I thought. But I wonder if PS3 itself is capable being connected via LAN.
Really VO:OT on 360 has LAN play?
Edit: googled, yeah so it does.
spazchicken
Member
Actually added a Saturn game to my collection, friend sold it to me at a really fair price.
Solid game. I was playing this and it's sequel just this weekend. Congrats.
I tried playing Space Hulk today, and I keep getting killed instantly by the genestealers (is that what they are called?). Is there a difficulty setting somewhere that I am missing?
ResidentDante
Member
A repost from the June pickups thread:
Got this in today from an Amazon seller for only $11.03-
I thought it was pretty good deal compared to eBay. It's complete and includes an EA Games advertisement card.
Is there a difference with the silver Sega Seal of Quality versus the gold one?
If it's anything like the Japanese Master System, Gold is first party, silver is third party.
Can't really help you as I haven't played but what are your general impressions of the game?
Anyone experience this before or know what to do? Turned on my Saturn after unplugging it from the power outlet and PVM, etc. and it's now showing a yellow picture.
Tried a different SCART cable and works fine...very odd. Never had a single issue with the cable and it's from retro gaming cables uk. And now the original cable works normally too; no idea what occurred but glad it's "fixed" I suppose! Still interested to hear anyone's thoughts who have more technical knowhow than me.
Tried a different SCART cable and works fine...very odd. Never had a single issue with the cable and it's from retro gaming cables uk. And now the original cable works normally too; no idea what occurred but glad it's "fixed" I suppose! Still interested to hear anyone's thoughts who have more technical knowhow than me.
D.Lo
Member
Blue signal/pin not connecting correctly is all.Anyone experience this before or know what to do? Turned on my Saturn after unplugging it from the power outlet and PVM, etc. and it's now showing a yellow picture.
Tried a different SCART cable and works fine...very odd. Never had a single issue with the cable and it's from retro gaming cables uk. And now the original cable works normally too; no idea what occurred but glad it's "fixed" I suppose! Still interested to hear anyone's thoughts who have more technical knowhow than me.
Tough, and nothing like Warhammer. It plays more like Alien vs. Predator for Atari Jaguar.
Anyway, I found a copy of Powerslave at a local retro game shop, but they are selling it for $89.99 and WON'T haggle with the price. It is cheaper than ebay, but it's a freaking disc-based game.
Just curious, but I'm not following your comment about it being a disk based game... That's not much compared to what many other disks run.
Fair enough, hope it's not something more serious.
Re: Powerslave, if it's decent condition you may want to grab it, Commo. Also remember you can grab Exhumed (PAL version) and it'll run fine with an AR cart on a NTSC Saturn.
The reason why I bring up the fact it is a disc-based game-
http://www.rfgeneration.com/news/Di...ote-to-Video-Game-Sellers-and-Buyers-1337.php
Some of the prices for these games are ridiculous and there is no guarantee that they will still work after a few more years.
I see, though I think the concerns over this are highly exaggerated. I have thousands of disk based games and have yet to encounter any disk lost to rot. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, clearly it does. I just don't see it as a widespread problem. I've had carts that fail too, but I don't go into it thinking most of my carts will fail in my lifetime. I suppose we will eventually find out, but there doesn't seem to be any substantial research to indicate how wide spread a problem it is or could be, let alone what is the primary cause. Is it environmental? Is it manufacturing errors? User neglect?
That said, there are far more expensive disks to be found on Saturn and if it was in nice shape, that seems like a decent price. I can see why you might be apprehensive though, gotta stick with what you're comfortable with.
I thought I read something about heat/humidity being primary factors contributing to disc rot. It makes sense to me. If there's particulate matter between layers from manufacturing, heat and moisture expanding that matter would really aggravate any minor manufacturing errors.
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Anyways, I'm incredibly impressed with the 4MB fighters on this thing. I can see how it blew minds back in 1997/98 to be able to play recent, year-old arcade games at home for an affordable price (looking at you NeoGeo).
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Anyways, I'm incredibly impressed with the 4MB fighters on this thing. I can see how it blew minds back in 1997/98 to be able to play recent, year-old arcade games at home for an affordable price (looking at you NeoGeo).
Depends on what era you are targeting. The NES and Genesis have claims for their era as well. Dreamcast is no slouch either and N64 also got a decent amount of arcade love.
Then there is the NEO-GEO, but that's basically cheating.
Sega's only good hardware launch is their final one, the western launch of Dreamcast.
Battlesmurf
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I think as long as they are temperature/moisture controlled and not in cheap binders (some of the plastic is petroleum based and can dissolve the back (data) layer on discs), they seem to last better than most.
Oh yeah, for anyone that cares, WatchMojo did a Top 10 Virtua Fighter Characters list.
Not the biggest WatchMojo fan, but I'll watch it out of curiosity.
Not the biggest WatchMojo fan, but I'll watch it out of curiosity.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Sorry for the noob question but I really can't the messy Action Replay thing on the Saturn.
I know there is a version which enables other region play + memory backup + 4MB expansion RAM
As far as I searched on the internet that version is called Action Replay 4M Plus. The problem is that cart was released in the west, so my "noob question" is : can I use that AR 4M Plus with my japanese SS to play pal games ?
Uhm, before posting I checked again and seems like it works (first link with that info was play-asia), but I would like to have confirmation by people from here which are more reliable than most of other sources.
I know there is a version which enables other region play + memory backup + 4MB expansion RAM
As far as I searched on the internet that version is called Action Replay 4M Plus. The problem is that cart was released in the west, so my "noob question" is : can I use that AR 4M Plus with my japanese SS to play pal games ?
Uhm, before posting I checked again and seems like it works (first link with that info was play-asia), but I would like to have confirmation by people from here which are more reliable than most of other sources.
Yes, that should be fine. In some cases there are PAL-optimized games that will run in 50hz only.
Check here for a list of games:
http://www.segasaturn.co.uk/games/sega_saturn_pal.html
Basically, I would avoid the games with a red star.
EDIT: In case I was unclear, I wasn't saying to avoid those games in general, just if you're playing the PAL versions on NTSC/Japanese Saturns.
Moor-Angol
Banned
I wonder if Quake didn't get it better in 50Hz. As a polygonal game it could be made to the increased resolution (no vertical crush and black bars), and it would have less slowdown as the console has more time to process each frame. The gameplay speed should have to be adjusted too.
Or it was a shit PAL-optimisation that solved nothing and slowed down the gameplay.
cj_iwakura
Member
I didn't even know there was a WH40K game for the Saturn.
It isn't very good. It's a first person shooter with barely any tactical elements.
Beer Monkey
Member
I got my Saturn out of storage recently; it had not been played in 10 years. Crazy thing was my Backup cartridge still had all my save games on it...until today. Yeah, something happened and it lost all my saves. Fortunately I had copied the most important ones over to system save memory after I put a new CR-2032A battery in. Now I'm wondering if my Backup cartridge is going south.
I was a partner in a startup back in the late 90s, and sadly to keep my gaming hobby going I had to trade away lots of games. I graded away Panzer Dragoon Saga for Radiant Silvergun, for example, but eventually traded away Radiant Silvergun for something that I can't remember, but I know it is something that is now common. Burning Rangers, House of the Dead, Sega Ages (US), and so on, all were owned by me, all gone now. And now my Panzer Dragoon Saga save files are gone as well.
I still have Saturn Bomberman and Guardian Heroes, though. Bought them both at Toys R Us on release day, and I still have them. Memories.
I was a partner in a startup back in the late 90s, and sadly to keep my gaming hobby going I had to trade away lots of games. I graded away Panzer Dragoon Saga for Radiant Silvergun, for example, but eventually traded away Radiant Silvergun for something that I can't remember, but I know it is something that is now common. Burning Rangers, House of the Dead, Sega Ages (US), and so on, all were owned by me, all gone now. And now my Panzer Dragoon Saga save files are gone as well.
I still have Saturn Bomberman and Guardian Heroes, though. Bought them both at Toys R Us on release day, and I still have them. Memories.
Did you touch it while the console was on, or moved the console, and the cartridge now asks to be formatted? The FAT can become corrupt if the cartridge loses power when accessing it. The save data is still here, but the way to access it isn't. There is a trick to recover most of it though: by initiating a format, then instantly switching the console off. It may reset the FAT and restore most of your saves, although the oldest ones can be wiped in the process. Still better than nothing. Although if you have already formatted the cart, then it's over.
Beer Monkey
Member
I would have tried this if I had known, but it's too late, I formatted the cart earlier today. Like I said, I already had the most important game saves, so it's not a big deal.
However, it's all for naught now until I repair my system, as the spindle motor somehow, strangely, gave up the ghost tonight. I've opened up the system and am pressing the sensor so the system thinks the door is closed, and sure enough while the lens will seek and focus, the spindle no longer turns at all. So my Saturn is non functional until I can replace the optical drive. And while new lens mechanisms are available for the drive, it looks like I'll need a whole new drive since the spindle motor itself has stopped responding. And yes, I re-seated the 21-pin data cable and the power connectors. Sigh. Maybe I shouldn't have let it sit in storage for the last decade.
I'm working on a play through of Duke 3D on the Saturn for whatever reason, I gave it a whirl now that I've got RGB through a JVC PVM and realized I've never gotten beyond the first 3 levels despite owning multiple ports of the game. It's occasionally frustrating with no quicksaves and the frame rate isn't always the greatest, but it's good fun and I think I'll have to scout for Powerslave and Quake next.
Beer Monkey
Member
My first thought on my spindle motor dying is, well, I'll box this up for a few months and try to buy a Phoebe USB reader for the system at some point, then I don't need an optical drive for it, I can just rip all my games.
My current thought is maybe the power supply is going and it killed the drive motor and wiped my Backup cart. I definitely didn't turn off the system when using the Backup cart.
So now I'd be wary of using this system with a $160 Phoebe that it might kill. :-/
EDIT: just tested the actual spindle motor by powering the contacts on the board directly with a battery. As expected, the motor itself still works. But the system no longer spins it.
My current thought is maybe the power supply is going and it killed the drive motor and wiped my Backup cart. I definitely didn't turn off the system when using the Backup cart.
So now I'd be wary of using this system with a $160 Phoebe that it might kill. :-/
EDIT: just tested the actual spindle motor by powering the contacts on the board directly with a battery. As expected, the motor itself still works. But the system no longer spins it.
Can you explain what this is?
Oh wow, that might come in handy for the future, both for Dreamcast and Sega Saturn.
edit: is the first post of the thread updated? SHould I still use the links for the latest versions of the emulators?
socksfelloff
Member
I have a GDEMU and a RHEA. Both are fantastic and you absolutely should get one.
sixteen-bit
Member
I'd like to. Are they still in limited availability?
socksfelloff
Member
I do belive so and the maker comes off as an ass IMO but they are just incredible.
Edit : I'm wrong
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