Haha yeah I just bailed on that fight because I gotta rethink how to approach it. It's a cool setup but somewhat annoying.
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Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
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I eventually pulled it off with the story options I'd picked, but didn't manage to save everyone. I got two. I guess that has to be good enough.
Thankfully, leaving battle and keeping my levels / xp / etc works. That's kind of the only way to grind in this game, isn't it? Or is there some kind of "free combat" option somewhere?
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
That's usually the method if you want to grind (though... why would you want to? game isn't that hard, you don't need it), but there's an optional dungeon somewhere (with a bunch of floors in increasing difficulty, the classic) where I think you can repeat those battles, not sure. Might be the best way to grind.
I dunno, I love to grind in any kind of RPG. There's something about getting that edge that is intoxicating. Plus, I think that SFIII sort of lends itself to experimentation; I love that there's no real penalty for trying something and failing it, going back, and trying it again.
Shadow Hog
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Touché! I know I won't play anything else on my backlog if I do play Nights again. I didn't "get it" when I first got it, but since I did, my god is it addicting. Speaking of which, I've heard nothing glowing about the sequel "Journey of Dreams". How can one mess up Nights?
;Edit: Just watched a let's play of the beginning and giving it a voice is definitely one way. O.O;
Game seems to play the same though.
I've heard nothing glowing about the sequel "Journey of Dreams". How can one mess up Nights?
As much as I like Sega, it's Sega. The soundtrack is great and the game looks good, but all the cutscenes, voice acting, and strange transformations drag it down.
Shadow Hog
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IIRC, they removed Bonus Time, where you repeatedly go around the track for points after getting the Ideya for the Mare you're on... you chase some bird for a key, instead of getting 20 CHiPs to put in the Ideya Container, and once you have that key, giant chains prevent you from flying above or below the Ideya Palace, forcing you to finish your run on that Mare. Also, forced platforming segments. It wasn't very well thought out.
Morrigan Stark
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The NiGHTs sequel broke my heart. I loved the original so much. Bought the HD version on Steam and it was glorious.
I loved the original so much. Bought the HD version on Steam and it was glorious.
Valkyria
Banned
The NiGHTs sequel broke my heart.
Yeah, It was like a kick in the face once I played it on Wii. Why Sega, Why?
IrishNinja
Member
Duel seems $200+ i wanna say? Rangers complete is tricky to find at the moment for less than $100 on ebay, been checking forums as well. it's a bitch. and if you go to the last 3 or 4 months of 2013 you'll see a wide variance in how much it caught on open auctions.
Got my Burning Rangers out of a bid for 170$ and I considered it was a good price, it was about almost 2 years ago. 10 months ago I got Hyper Duel for something around 210$ with shipping.
Agent Unknown
Member
Ok so either my latest CR2032 battery died or it's just because I haven't turned on my Saturn for about two months (however that works) but I lost my shmup scores again and I don't want that to happen anymore. I found a Japanese RAM cart in my stuff (this is the back):
It's just been sitting around from an import order from years ago. Can I use this for backing up my saves and if so, how do you use it? I put it in my system to test it and it just boots to the CD/music menu.
It's just been sitting around from an import order from years ago. Can I use this for backing up my saves and if so, how do you use it? I put it in my system to test it and it just boots to the CD/music menu.
sixteen-bit
Member
Ok so either my latest CR2032 died or it's just because I haven't turned on my Saturn for about two months (however that works) but I lost my shmup scores again and I don't want that to happen anymore. I found a Japanese RAM cart in my stuff (this is the back):
It's just been sitting around from an import order from years ago. Can I use this for backing up my saves and if so, how do you use it? I put it in my system to test it and it just boots to the CD/music menu.
Select the data management option (first row, middle icon). You can then transfer saves from the card to internal memory and vice-versa.
If the game doesn't support direct memory card saving, you will need to hit reset with the disc lid open so it doesn't boot to the game, and copy the save from internal memory to the memory card after your play session. Use reset instead of a cold boot because once the system powers off, internal memory will be wiped if you have a dead backup battery.
IrishNinja
Member
^pretty sure mine's JP too...can't you just go to the options screen & transfer saves back & forth there? that's what i do, should be top left hand corner tab if im remembering correctly
Agent Unknown
Member
Thanks, so after my next play session when I have something I feel is worth saving, just go to Memory Manager, then choose "remove" and that should put it on the RAM cart? And does it just move it or make a copy?
Edit: Still not sure how this works. When I go to memory manager I can see the new data for Radiant Silvergun which I've made just by playing the game for awhile. Only options I get are "clear" and "remove." I assume "resume" means moving it from system memory to the cart but all it seems to do is empty the system memory as if I were choosing to clear it.
When you go to memory manager there should be a big blue rectangle for the system memory and a big pink rectangle for the cart memory.
Like this:
except in English since you can change the language from the menu even on Japanese systems.
The options are really obvious like move, copy, etc.
If you're not seeing this, your memory cart isn't registering because the cart slot is a piece of shit on the Saturn.
Like this:
except in English since you can change the language from the menu even on Japanese systems.
The options are really obvious like move, copy, etc.
If you're not seeing this, your memory cart isn't registering because the cart slot is a piece of shit on the Saturn.
Sevket-Erhat
Member
I would like to play that survival horror game on Saturn.
IrishNinja
Member
^you're either talkin Deep Fear or that RE port i'm guessin
Shadow Hog
Member
No, clearly he means Alone in the Dark 2.
(Yes, that got a Saturn port.)
(Yes, that got a Saturn port.)
IrishNinja
Member
...i'll be damned; so it did!
Agent Unknown
Member
Hmmm, now I'm starting to wonder if what I have is just one of the RAM expansion packs and not for saves (because based on what I'm reading there are two kinds).
Edit: Maybe get an Action Replay 4-1? Or not
necessary? Enlighten me, am I doing something wrong with this thing?
Edit: Maybe get an Action Replay 4-1? Or not
necessary? Enlighten me, am I doing something wrong with this thing?
encephalon
Member
I dread all Shining Force III dialogue to the point that I stopped playing it completely. And I own Scenario 2. : (
Sorcerer
Member
The NiGHTs sequel broke my heart.
I always was curious. A huge part of Nights is doing loops, but the pro-controller on the wii has octagonal gates, witch would make the sequel very difficult in my estimation.
Or is it possible/better to play with the wii-mote?
What does the front look like? I know the Capcom 4MB RAM carts are see-through.
And I wasn't kidding about the cart slot sucking. Maybe it's not registering.
Agent Unknown
Member
When you go to memory manager there should be a big blue rectangle for the system memory and a big pink rectangle for the cart memory.
Like this:
except in English since you can change the language from the menu even on Japanese systems.
The options are really obvious like move, copy, etc.
If you're not seeing this, your memory cart isn't registering because the cart slot is a piece of shit on the Saturn.
Missed your post, thanks. Yeah, no blue section so looks the cart slot and/or RAM cart aren't reading. :/
Edit:
The front of the cart is just gray/beige like the back from the picture I posted. So I may be out of luck no matter what because of the cart slot or some cards it reads better than others?
Agent Unknown
Member
Well, I blew on the cart and tried again and my Saturn reads it now NES paradigm forever.
NES paradigm forever.speedlolita
Member
Just noticed that my HST-3200 (Japan made Saturn, original version) has a much nicer quality cart slot compared to my other Saturn.
Neat.
Neat.
Memorabilia
Member
This makes me want to pull my Saturn out of retirement. I moth-balled it years ago after a "friend" borrowed it for a week and when I got it back it no longer produced a signal to the TV. Needless to say, that's the last time I ever let anyone borrow any of my videogame systems. No idea if it will work or if it's possible to even repair a Saturn using online do-it-yourself tips, but I may give it a go. I've still got a handful of games in storage as well. Ahhh, the good old days.
speedlolita
Member
From my own experience Saturn are very well built. Might just need a new video cable or something.
I'd recommend RGB..
I'd recommend RGB..
ResidentDante
Member
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
speedlolita
Member
Production of gaming machines by Japanese companies was banned in Korea, something to that effect.
Hyundai made the SNES and Game Boy there (maybe other Ninty stuff) and Samsung handled the Sega stuff such as the Mega Drive and Saturn.
I assumed this was common knowledge.
sixteen-bit
Member
Wasn't the Samsung Mega Drive called like, "Super Aladdin Boy" or something? Real creative naming, lol.
speedlolita
Member
No idea really. A quick Google of "Samsung Mega Drive" yields plenty of image results if you're curious though.
That MS2 looks funky too.
That MS2 looks funky too.
speedlolita
Member
Leg broke off when I was undoing the mess that CeX left inside of the Saturn I bought so I filed the chip down. First time doing this so I'm pretty pleased, didn't want to throw it away.
I'd have been so scared of doing that. I thought that thick black layer was full of mysterious electronic stuff. Glad your console is working again!
Who's CeX?
sixteen-bit
Member
I think it's a UK chain
speedlolita
Member
Yeah it is a chain. This machine was modded by them in 1999 apparently.
If the leg was left off the video would be 50Hz (on a PAL machine the trace is GND), but when it is given 5v it turns to 60Hz. The trace it connects to on this machine by default is 5v, obviously.
I'm just restoring it back into an NTSC-J Saturn. Neat to see a through hole BIOS chip though, later revisions use SMD chips. The CD controller board is seperate, all the buttons on the front and the PSU are built into the lid and there are various other differences between this one that was made in Japan and most that were made in Indonesia.
That said, does anyone here have launch machines at all? Was wondering if this design was used in Europe or America at all.
If the leg was left off the video would be 50Hz (on a PAL machine the trace is GND), but when it is given 5v it turns to 60Hz. The trace it connects to on this machine by default is 5v, obviously.
I'm just restoring it back into an NTSC-J Saturn. Neat to see a through hole BIOS chip though, later revisions use SMD chips. The CD controller board is seperate, all the buttons on the front and the PSU are built into the lid and there are various other differences between this one that was made in Japan and most that were made in Indonesia.
That said, does anyone here have launch machines at all? Was wondering if this design was used in Europe or America at all.
bishopcruz
Member
I asked this before, but are they any issues doing a region mod via a switch to change to jumpers on the bottom of the board vs doing a universal BIOS? It seems like a switch would be far less likely to mess with your system and a hell of a lot less work overall. I remember that back in the day switches were just how things were done.
speedlolita
Member
Region free BIOS is a perfect solution - provided you have the tools to install it.
It is a Japanese BIOS modified to not check for region flagging. No need to be cautious. I might socket my BIOS in this particular Saturn.
It is a Japanese BIOS modified to not check for region flagging. No need to be cautious. I might socket my BIOS in this particular Saturn.
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