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Senate GOP aims to release new health bill by week’s end

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GK86

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Senate Republicans are hoping to unveil a revamped draft of their legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare by the end of this week, though there are major questions about how it will address roiling GOP disagreement over a proposal touted by conservative senators.

New bill text could be unveiled to senators as soon as Thursday, according to sources familiar with the proposal. A Congressional Budget Office score is likely to follow as soon as next Monday; a vote could come by the end of next week.

Though Republicans are aiming to have a new CBO report of their latest proposal by early next week, it may not include an analysis of an amendment penned by GOP Sens. Mike Lee of Utah and Ted Cruz of Texas that would allow the sale of cheap insurance plans outside Obamacare’s regulatory structure.
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is expected to brief the full 52-member caucus on Tuesday and Wednesday on CBO’s analysis of proposed alterations to the Senate’s draft bill, which is far from the requisite 50 votes needed.

Republicans are leaning toward keeping some of Obamacare’s taxes to help lower premiums for low-income people, plowing $45 billion into fighting opioid addiction and allowing people to pay premiums with pre-tax money. How to get the support of senators from Medicaid expansion states is also unsolved.
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CHC

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The more they rush the more it will fail. You don't come up with these kinds of things in the span of a week.
 
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BFIB

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How much of our tax dollars have gone to these 4 plans that instead, could have been used on the existing healthcare in place?
 
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Shauni

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Though Republicans are aiming to have a new CBO report of their latest proposal by early next week, it may not include an analysis of an amendment penned by GOP Sens. Mike Lee of Utah and Ted Cruz of Texas that would allow the sale of cheap insurance plans outside Obamacare’s regulatory structure.
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What would something like this entail? It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but coming from those two it can't be good.
 
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To Far Away Times

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What if instead of finding ways to increase costs on the middle and lower classes to fund a tax cut for the rich, what if we taxed the rich more and funded the lower and middle class?

Just a thought...
 
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BoogieWoogie

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Shauni said:
What would something like this entail? It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but coming from those two it can't be good.
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It sounds HORRIBLE. Selling healthcare plans to people, promising low costs that don't cover anything is what they're trying to swing here.
 
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GK86

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Shauni said:
What would something like this entail? It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but coming from those two it can't be good.
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No idea why it is green:

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SolidSnakeUS

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Don't worry, more people will be uninsured with this one. Because I mean, at this point, why the fuck not do that GOP? You don't seem to give a shit about the populace at large.
 
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zashga

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Shauni said:
What would something like this entail? It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but coming from those two it can't be good.
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It's a cynical ploy to increase the number of people who would be "covered" under the new legislation. The caveats being that most of the people under the cheap plans would have relatively little coverage, and it allows insurance companies to exploit the hell out of people who need real health insurance and/or have a pre-existing condition.

But in Republicans' minds, it's a win as long as the CBO doesn't say "X million fewer Americans will have health insurance." Never mind that they get there by drastically de-valuing what it means to have "a" health insurance plan. We as Americans are probably dumb enough to fall for it.
 
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Ekai

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Omegasquash said:
Yeah, but they just kept trying to repeal it without having a replacement plan in place.
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To be fair, I doubt they even want to come with a replacement plan. But they realize how shitty it will look on them if millions of people lose their insurance.
 
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Balphon

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Shauni said:
What would something like this entail? It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but coming from those two it can't be good.
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It would functionally segregate healthy and sick people into different insurance markets and consequently lead to massive cost increases for the latter.
 
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Their inability to even attempt to work with democrats and invite them to the table or have hearings is fucking insane.
 
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Somnid

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Omegasquash said:
Yeah, but they just kept trying to repeal it without having a replacement plan in place.
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They seem to have painted themselves into a corner. You cannot both reduce taxes and provide better access to healthcare which is what was promised.

It's interesting that the discussion has shifted to the point where Republicans cannot actually admit to reducing benefits without a backlash. It's now simply a matter of tax burden. We might have actually moved past the lazy poor people stage because their base is starved for healthcare relief and the ACA gave them a taste of it.
 
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I guess there was no way for them to get rid of the CBO before this? That's the only way this was ever gonna work. You can't pass a bill that's horrible for the American people when you're giving out official analysis that it's horrible for the American people.

Considering how far Republicans have gone into a propaganda filled echo chamber, I'm really surprised that this wasn't one of their first targets.
 
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btrboyev said:
Their inability to even attempt to work with democrats and invite them to the table or have hearings is fucking insane.
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I have a feeling that, were it not for the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus, the GOP would be far more open to the idea of working with Democrats on fixing/changing Obamacare. But as long as the far-right chunk of the party holds as much sway as it does, a full-on repeal is the only thing they'll accept. To them, working with Democrats is tantamount to treason.
 
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maabus1999 said:
And unless Senator Heller of Nevada suddenly decides not to run for reelection he will be a no. That puts a GOP right at 50 can't lose anymore.
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I think there's a good chance they haven't got Rand, simply because Rand is that obstructionist.
 
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CNN: Trump largely absent in final health care sprint
Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump has no plans to play a larger role in selling the Republican health care bill this week, an administration official told CNN Monday.

Though he often touts himself as the ultimate salesman with a knack for closing deals, he has remained tight-lipped and out of the spotlight, letting others make the last-minute push for health care reform for him.

There are no plans for Trump to travel the country to pitch the bill, the official said.
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Marc Short, Trump's legislative affairs director, said Monday that "the President has remained very active in this debate, you will see him continue to remain so."

But Short admitted during the off-camera briefing with reporters that "it's a fair point" to make that Democrats were more organized messengers for their health care bill than Republicans have been.

"There's more we could do to educate the public," he said.

By and large, Trump has steered clear of the tactics his predecessor used to garner support for his health care bill.

President Barack Obama was known for shedding his jacket and rolling up his sleeves as he pitched health care reform town halls. He held campaign-style rallies outside of shopping centers in Minneapolis and lead thousands in chants of "Yes, we can."

Obama even canceled a trip overseas just days before he was scheduled to depart because the House was expected to vote on health care in the coming days, and Democratic leaders were scrambling for votes.

With Trump not using presidential power to sell this bill -- especially with large scale events in key states -- the plan has little chance of rising from the depths of its low approval ratings. The Senate bill has just a 17% approval rating, according to a recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll.

"I think it comes down to the fact that he doesn't really care that much about health care," one Republican aide said of Trump. "He just wants it done so he can fulfill that promise."
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Lol, this is exactly why that thread Based on McCain's statement on the health bill was met by nothing but eye rolls.
 
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maabus1999 said:
And unless Senator Heller of Nevada suddenly decides not to run for reelection he will be a no. That puts a GOP right at 50 can't lose anymore.
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Murkoski is voting with Collins. Heller + Rand + Murkoski + Collins and they're 2 short. And that's minimum. If they do put it to vote, the final tally will likely be even worse.
 
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