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September Wrasslin' |OT| Almost Brings a tear to my eye
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Rafa=FedKilla
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FallingEdge
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Congrats dood!
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Orton is about as boring as a wet paper bag. People like to rip on ADR for his persona, but how is Orton's any better (isn't as good in the ring either, but that's another story)? . In fact, he's been this way for the last eight or so years. He's dreadful. Ever since he began feuding with Cena as a main eventer on Raw, he's gone downhill in character. He did his best stuff with Foley and Undertaker, two of the types of guys who makes others look miles better than they are. I mean, I guess he had that Christian feud that did nobody business other than his own in 2011; to which Christian carried his ass on every PPV, but I cannot think of any other notable match or program he's been in for the last several years. You say he hasn't had any stories or he wasn't treated as such, but he's been given the ball as the top guy more than anyone else not named Batista or Cena in the past ten years. And he has flopped as a big name because he's produced duds. For all the shit other guys get on the mic, Orton is bottom tier. You either gets matches with him that result in headlocks (i.e. Sheamus matches) or ones where he beats guys like RVD, Christian, Kofi, etc. by OUTTANOWHERE RKO's.
Jericho at this point does one thing. Try his best to put others over, nothing else. It's not his fault if creative/Vince do nothing with those guys after (like how he put over Kofi, Evan Bourne, Dolph Ziggler.) but they do nothing with them to follow up.
Best post I've ever seen on here and the regulars will just gloss it by.
An actual view point of view that extends beyond diva chatter and Kane.
Good stuff. We're gonna try to have at least 25 percent down, but I doubt we'll have that much. We'll see...as long as the current place doesn't drive me too crazy, I don't mind sticking it out a bit and saving.
I think what he's saying is that Cena doesn't actually make guys look better. He just uses them to make sure he stays over and on top. Hard to disagree.
bean breath
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Bootaaay, Bootaaay, Bootaaay, wot u doin' m8?
When are you going to realize that no one else cares about the intangibles you value so much? This list is compiled based on hard evidence, statistics, real numbers that you can see; not your personal gut instincts and what you perceive to be their level of "grit" and "heart".
This isn't gymnastics, pal. There aren't a panel of Russian judges at ringside holding up placards with 10s on them because the Young Bucks "sell good". What's their winning percentage? How many Championship titles have they won? What's their salary?
Does Masato Tanaka have more Likes on Facebook than Corey Graves? Did more cumulative viewers watch Katsuyori Shibata's segments than The Great Khali's this year?
While you and your friend Mark lose your collective shite over this magazine, take a moment to ponder this:
If those guys are so good, why aren't they in WWE?
Awesome - congrats!
Perspicacity
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Nice to see bean breath publicly acknowledging that John Cena is not the best wrestler in the world. Can I help you into a nice Daniel Bryan avatar friend?
bean breath
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One wrestled 2 matches and won the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania, the other was dragged down by carrying Husky Harris' lard butt and generously trying to help him make the Bray Wyatt character work.
So add Bray's rank, which he owes to Cena, to John's 3rd place finish.
Im trying to figure out how Terrible is 20 on that list considering he hasnt done anything at all thia year. Looking at the list, the next 2 luchadors are Mephisto and Sombra. So my guess is that they looked at the title holders and assumed importance on weight class therefore that the heavyweight belt was the most important and thus El Terrible had a great year, except that the heavyweight belt is meaningless in CMLL and Terible has a losing record this year
Sibersk Esto
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Is there even such a thing as a pro wrestling list of ANY kind that can be agreed with?
British Monsoon
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Watched the first of this year's Dragon Gate UK events - this is what DGUSA should be like; a yearly tour that gives fans a chance to see Dragon Gate wrestlers mix it up with native talent, rather than a half-assed attempt to build a promotion around wrestlers who can't be there for the majority of the year. I really liked YAMATO vs BxB Hulk and actually preferred it to the Kobe World match, as the shorter running time led to them keeping things more contained and, as a result, Hulk's inevitable no-sell comeback didn't feel quite so egregious. Speed Muscle vs CIMA & Susumu was a lot of fun and I enjoyed the main event of Tozawa & Ricochet vs Marty Scurll & Mark Haskins, two of the best in the UK at present. There's only five matches on the card, but I'd recommend it nonetheless.
This is wrestling, pal. Masato Tanaka is a proven draw in his native country, for FMW and for ZERO1. Corey Graves never drew a dime. No one was paying to see Sterling James Keenan on the indies and he's hardly set the world on fire in NXT.
Come on, bean, use your brain. There's only so many spots on an already bloated roster. Also, no one's "losing their collective shite" over PWI, it's always ridiculous and only worth paying attention to because of its ridiculousness. Get a grip.
This is wrestling, pal. Masato Tanaka is a proven draw in his native country, for FMW and for ZERO1. Corey Graves never drew a dime. No one was paying to see Sterling James Keenan on the indies and he's hardly set the world on fire in NXT.
bean breath said:
Come on, bean, use your brain. There's only so many spots on an already bloated roster. Also, no one's "losing their collective shite" over PWI, it's always ridiculous and only worth paying attention to because of its ridiculousness. Get a grip.
Perspicacity
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lol adding Bray's rank to Cena's makes him 9th dummy
British Monsoon
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I'm humouring him.
Sibersk Esto
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Fixed
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Not only are they #FuckingCarnies, they also don't bother updating their begging emails:
Or maybe they just don't have a calendar. I can't tell what's worse.
Or maybe they just don't have a calendar. I can't tell what's worse.
bean breath
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Listen, no one hates WWE more than me but I'll be gosh darned if I'm just going to stand by and say nothing while foreigners disparage America by saying foreign wrestling is better.
British Monsoon
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lovely ladies
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WWE.com power rankings, Cena's always #1.
Not only are they #FuckingCarnies, they also don't bother updating their begging emails:
Or maybe they just don't have a calendar. I can't tell what's worse.
I laughed out loud.
#FuckingCarnies
It will be worth it. You don't want to be house poor.
bean breath
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British Monsoon
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Cena doesn't bury talent, he just soaks up their potential - that's what his 'Never Give Up' hand towels are for.
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Orton is about as boring as a wet paper bag. People like to rip on ADR for his persona, but how is Orton's any better (isn't as good in the ring either, but that's another story)? . In fact, he's been this way for the last eight or so years. He's dreadful. Ever since he began feuding with Cena as a main eventer on Raw, he's gone downhill in character. He did his best stuff with Foley and Undertaker, two of the types of guys who makes others look miles better than they are. I mean, I guess he had that Christian feud that did nobody business other than his own in 2011; to which Christian carried his ass on every PPV, but I cannot think of any other notable match or program he's been in for the last several years. You say he hasn't had any stories or he wasn't treated as such, but he's been given the ball as the top guy more than anyone else not named Batista or Cena in the past ten years. And he has flopped as a big name because he's produced duds. For all the shit other guys get on the mic, Orton is bottom tier. You either gets matches with him that result in headlocks (i.e. Sheamus matches) or ones where he beats guys like RVD, Christian, Kofi, etc. by OUTTANOWHERE RKO's.
Jericho at this point does one thing. Try his best to put others over, nothing else. It's not his fault if creative/Vince do nothing with those guys after (like how he put over Kofi, Evan Bourne, Dolph Ziggler.) but they do nothing with them to follow up.
Great post.
The big issue with Orton, in my opinion, was that he was given too much too soon and his career has nowhere to go from here. The guy is a 13 time (?) world champion and he's not even 35 yet, so he has a lot of career left in him. The guy has absolutely no incentive to try any more.
Holy shit, he's even doing the patented Cena "Too, bad" pose.
FallingEdge
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Been playing Hyrule Warriors. Fun game but I think I would rather play DW/SW/WO instead. I think if I was a bigger Zelda fan, this game would be fantastic.
Sibersk Esto
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Who was it here who said orton looks like he's paid by the minute? Cause i think that sums it up
Jimmy King
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Is Lesnar/Cena from NoC worth watching?
Sibersk Esto
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I guess
sazabirules
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Watch the Cesaro/Sheamus match instead. It was the best match on the PPV.
mechashiva
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Boots did the DGUK dvd contain the ten minutes or so of fans coming up with songs for Uhaa? That was good times.
BoboBrazil
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Not only are they #FuckingCarnies, they also don't bother updating their begging emails:
Or maybe they just don't have a calendar. I can't tell what's worse.
Smart move if you didn't renew. Don't support their horrible product they currently put out by giving them money.
slightconfuse
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whoa
Kevin Smith(yes that one) was on talk is jericho this week
Kevin Smith(yes that one) was on talk is jericho this week
British Monsoon
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Yep, I loved that - Progress fans do a similar thing for Noam Dar, as his last name fits to absolutely anything, but Uhaa is even better. Can't believe they even starting singing this shit, lol; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYgOlqinH7A
Putting new talent over in and out of the ring.
Exactly what I'm thinking. I figure the saving will be worth it in the end. The less interest we have to pay in the end, the better off we'll be.
Nerdkiller
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So...does that mean that Jericho gets to join Smith's podcast the next time around?
Pretty sloppy Goldust debut. And I know everyone hates on Dean Douglas (and Shane Douglas in general), but the gimmick fit in just fine during 1995 WWF. I think he could've been a solid midcard heel, consistently vying for the IC title. I feel kind of cheated because I would've liked to see a Douglas/Michaels match. Hopefully that happens down the road.
i did it...plenty of times
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