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September Wrasslin' |OT| Almost Brings a tear to my eye
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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WATCH IT! At least just to hear Mean Gene clarify that the woman that looks underage during the motorcycle giveaway is Maniac Mike's fiancée. Although I'm still not sure if she is underage, or not.
So there was a bit of WWE revisionist history going on with the DX Monday Night Wars bit, but there was one thing that I did agree with. The nWo during their prime did nothing but beat people up while DX frequently ended up getting beat up. In the big picture DX probably did more to help WWF than the nWo helped WCW.
The nWo was more popular group without question but I'd argue that DX was a better wrestling faction.
The nWo was more popular group without question but I'd argue that DX was a better wrestling faction.
plagiarize
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I hope he wasn't responsible for the whole Big Dick Johnson character.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Just found out. Can't comprehend Veronica leaving yhe company. She was going to be pure money.........
Started working there in August of 2004 until November of 2010 apparently and worked primarily on Smackdown under Hayes, did find this:
Rafa=FedKilla
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There is freedom within
There is freedom without
Try to catch a deluge in a paper cup
There's a battle ahead
Many battles are lost
But you'll never see the end of yhe road
While you are traveling with me
Hey now, hey now
Dont dream its over
Hey now, hey now
When the world comes in
They come, they come
To build a wall between us
We know they won't win
Sibersk Esto
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- Sinn Bodhi (Kizarny) posted the following update on Jake Roberts on Tuesday evening:
Perspicacity
Banned
Because off topic is for superhero talk. Duh
BFIB
Member
HBK and HHH played the sophmore level douches perfectly.
plagiarize
Banned
I'm not sure how aware people are of Smackdown during this time period, but it was imho regularly the better show than RAW. All the LaFamilia stuff was gold. King Booker was gold. I know many ignored it during the brand split, but it was more relevant than it is now.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
King Booker was great, except for the Boogeyman feud
La Familia was awful outside of Vickie and Edge
And that's why the nWo angle could never evolve.
They would get punked by one dude from the rafters and beat down everyone else, which is fine... if you ever have the big blow-off moment, but they completely butchered that with the wonky Starcade 97 ending and everything that followed that.
Yep. Crow Sting should have cleanly beat Hogan and that should have ended the nWo.
Carnby
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Agreed. These two were so annoying yet awesome. After Shawn departed, and a new DX formed, it was still good, but not nearly as "legit" annoying and Shawn and HHH were.
Edit: plus it helped that I was bored of HBK's post WM12 face run. That was so dull.
They always talk about DX but there's been three (four?) levels of it. The original with Shawn, Rude, Chyna, and Triple H (you say they played these guys perfectly but you have to remember this is coke Shawn you're talking about). The larger one with Outlaws and X-Pac including Chyna and Triple H. And the last ones with simply Hunter and Shawn where they did nothing but make poop and draw 'cocks' on the screen. Its humor was the worst.
Smackdown was on the decline then, but in 2005-2006 it was still miles better. No Cena and no terrible version of DX.
One thing they did point out that was true, the original DX was so great because they were just 2 pissed off young dudes. Everything they did came from a place of real anger. You could tell no fucks were given.
BFIB
Member
Yeah, you had HHH who felt slighted since he was singled out on the whole Madison Square Garden scene. Then HBK, who really just did not give a shit at all, except for his credit card and small mirror for his locker room.
So Triple H is on Jericho's podcast this week. I don't listen to Jericho much unless he has a really solid guest because he's much more annoying than someone like Austin who is a joy to listen to even on his own on radio.
I'll check this one out, though. HHH is usually pretty great in interviews. I still want Vince on Austin's podcast, though.
I'll check this one out, though. HHH is usually pretty great in interviews. I still want Vince on Austin's podcast, though.
Please report back the timestamp Jericho stops trumpeting himself and starts the actual interview. =)
¡HarlequinPanic!
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Starts at 19 minutes.
Haven't checked jericho's podcast in a while. Liked the one with the one Kiss relief guitarist a few months ago, he seemed really chill and now there's another part of that saga with Ace Frehley.
Haven't checked jericho's podcast in a while. Liked the one with the one Kiss relief guitarist a few months ago, he seemed really chill and now there's another part of that saga with Ace Frehley.
plagiarize
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To be fair, the Vickie and Edge stuff was the bulk of the angle, and they were awesome.
Also, this little guy in my avatar would come running whenever Queen Sharmell hailed Booker down to the ring. No matter where he was, no matter how bad his cancer was or how he was doing on his meds (poor guy didn't make it to 1 year old), he would run to listen to Sharmell and see Booker's entrance.
The whole King Booker angle will always remind me of little Max there, and always make me smile.
Perspicacity
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Original DX = This product sucks, so lets see how far we can push things until we get fired.
Post HBK DX = College frat party kind of limit pushing (which was also entertaining)
PG DX = A great TV sitcom that sticks around for one season too long.
When they brought the nWo over to WWF I still wish an original DX vs original nWo feud would have happened
I think when HHH took over DX and brought in X-Pac & the Outlaws that was more or less their proper face turn, at least by Attitude Era standards. HHHBK DX were heels who just got cheered.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Veronica leaving The E makes Archie's choice easier but its harder on me.....
¡HarlequinPanic!
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Eh HHH interview is kind of a snooze, he'll get into his work with the rock and jericho himself on friday. Should be better.
He has a line about how they all used to make fun of terra ryzing but "would tell him that they'd still go to vince and say he's got something and to pick him up" hmm....no wonder him and bret never got along, so similar
He has a line about how they all used to make fun of terra ryzing but "would tell him that they'd still go to vince and say he's got something and to pick him up" hmm....no wonder him and bret never got along, so similar
Yeah, wasn't that like immediately before the nWWFo dissolved?
*Shrug*
I would have done the entire Invasion angle differently had I been Vince.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
The invasion angle was a weird insight into how petty Vince McMahon could be
Thing is, it wasn't PG. It was still in 2006 and were doing cock jokes most of the time. Always looked it as a try-hard to be funny thing, and came off really bad.
It led to a feud with Rated RKO, though, so that was okay.
No more than 'Taker or Austin at the time. Hunter definitely didn't. Bret and Shawn got their fair share even though both were heels. Bret doing the anti-American thing.
Nobody gave a shit if you beat up DX though. They were a wrestling sideshow at best. Even at their 'most pushed' they never felt important.
So no, no way in hell would I say they were a 'better faction.' NWO revitalized Hogan, and it built up Hall, Nash, and Steiner. They changed the way gimmicks worked, and they added a grit to wrestling that you only really saw in Memphis previously.
DX was a jobber stable that had main eventers in it. I don't mean jobbers because they lost, I mean jobbers because they felt like nothing. All their angles, storylines, and matches were piss breaks quality.
So no, no way in hell would I say they were a 'better faction.' NWO revitalized Hogan, and it built up Hall, Nash, and Steiner. They changed the way gimmicks worked, and they added a grit to wrestling that you only really saw in Memphis previously.
DX was a jobber stable that had main eventers in it. I don't mean jobbers because they lost, I mean jobbers because they felt like nothing. All their angles, storylines, and matches were piss breaks quality.
British Monsoon
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Updated EVOLVE cards;
EVOLVE 34, 09/13, Queens, NY
-EVOLVE Title Match: Drew Galloway defends vs. Rich Swann
-DGUSA Open The United Gate Championship Match: Harlem & Lancelot Bravado defend vs. The Colony of Fire Ant & Green Ant
-Uhaa Nation vs. Roderick Strong
-Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Timothy Thatcher
-Plus: DGUSA Open The Freedom Gate Champion Ricochet, Johnny Gargano, The Premier Athlete Brand of Anthony Nese & Caleb Konley w/Su Yung & Mr. A, and others!!!
EVOLVE 35, 09/14, Brooklyn, NY
-DGUSA Open The Freedom Gate Championship Match: Ricochet defends vs. Uhaa Nation
-Non-Title: EVOLVE Champion Drew Galloway vs. Roderick Strong
-Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Biff Busick
-Plus: DGUSA Open The United Gate Champions The Bravado Brothers, Johnny Gargano, The Premier Athlete Brand of Anthony Nese & Caleb Konley w/Su Yung & Mr. A, Rich Swann, Timothy Thatcher, Drew Gulak, and others!!!
All the announced matches look good so far, except for The Bravados vs The Colony - I like the Bravados as an undercard comedy act, but there's no good reason for having them as your tag champs.
EVOLVE 34, 09/13, Queens, NY
-EVOLVE Title Match: Drew Galloway defends vs. Rich Swann
-DGUSA Open The United Gate Championship Match: Harlem & Lancelot Bravado defend vs. The Colony of Fire Ant & Green Ant
-Uhaa Nation vs. Roderick Strong
-Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Timothy Thatcher
-Plus: DGUSA Open The Freedom Gate Champion Ricochet, Johnny Gargano, The Premier Athlete Brand of Anthony Nese & Caleb Konley w/Su Yung & Mr. A, and others!!!
EVOLVE 35, 09/14, Brooklyn, NY
-DGUSA Open The Freedom Gate Championship Match: Ricochet defends vs. Uhaa Nation
-Non-Title: EVOLVE Champion Drew Galloway vs. Roderick Strong
-Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Biff Busick
-Plus: DGUSA Open The United Gate Champions The Bravado Brothers, Johnny Gargano, The Premier Athlete Brand of Anthony Nese & Caleb Konley w/Su Yung & Mr. A, Rich Swann, Timothy Thatcher, Drew Gulak, and others!!!
All the announced matches look good so far, except for The Bravados vs The Colony - I like the Bravados as an undercard comedy act, but there's no good reason for having them as your tag champs.
HerbertFish
Member
Haha always love wrasslegaf's revisionist history on dx
DX was important, but I don't think any thing they did in 1997 holds up once you get past the age of 16 or so.
BronsonLee
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Nothing in the Attitude Era holds up very well, though.
Sibersk Esto
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Except MILK-O-MANIA
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