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Kurt Angle's work gets easier to appreciate as you get older. There's a dude who fucking got it right up until the brain slug got him.
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September Wrasslin' |OT| Almost Brings a tear to my eye
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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Eh, I'll play fantasy booking for a moment and show my version of the Invasion angle.
Firstly, no McMahons running everything. Keep Shane as the buyer of WCW, but have him put Bischoff in an authority/leader position. Secondly, Vince breaks the bank and throws money at Goldberg and the bigger talent to get them on TV as fast as possible. Third, fuck ECW and don't bring them into the angle. Fourth, no traitor bullshit with people jumping sides.
Have WCW stars slowly start invading WWF shows, kind of like how it actually played out, except this time its slightly bigger stars like Flair, Goldberg, Steiner, DDP, etc. Have things escalate until we get to the WCW vs WWF Invasion PPV. Book the elimination tag match with Austin/Rock/Angle/Taker/Jericho vs Goldberg/Steiner/DDP/Booker T/Flair.
Have the main event go for a while until it gets down to Austin and Rock vs Goldberg and Booker. Then when the climax of the match nears, have the lights go out, and then when the lights come back on everyone in the ring is laid out and the nWo is standing in the ring spray painting people.
Have the invasion angle turn into WWF/WCW vs the nWo. Have the nWo annex DX (since they're all bros anyway). The nWo showing up would prompt Sting to show up to try and stop the nWo from killing WWF like they pretty much did WCW.
Book WrestleMania with every match as a WWF/WCW vs nWo match, and have the big ending be that the nWo is eventually destroyed.
Boom. Better invasion angle (imo), WCW doesn't get buried, both groups look strong as fuck.
....what?
So I just watched the DX episode of Monday Night Wars... and it was pretty good. Focused mainly on the pre-Mania 14 DX with cocaine Shawn, then went into the HHH DX as well.
If we just completely ignore episode 3 (maybe leave in the part that covers the Pillman gun angle), I think this series is a lot better. While it's weird that they went into late 1997 and 1998 without mentioning Austin or McMahon, I like that there's at least some kind chronology with the series. They're taking it slowly, which makes sense, because there's a lot to cover. Again, ignoring episode 3, which jumps from 1997 to 2001 in like 5 minutes.
They didn't mention the screwjob at all, but I guess that's more relevant to the Mr. McMahon character rather than Shawn Michaels or DX. I'm assuming a Mr. McMahon episode is coming soon and they'll go into that.
If we just completely ignore episode 3 (maybe leave in the part that covers the Pillman gun angle), I think this series is a lot better. While it's weird that they went into late 1997 and 1998 without mentioning Austin or McMahon, I like that there's at least some kind chronology with the series. They're taking it slowly, which makes sense, because there's a lot to cover. Again, ignoring episode 3, which jumps from 1997 to 2001 in like 5 minutes.
They didn't mention the screwjob at all, but I guess that's more relevant to the Mr. McMahon character rather than Shawn Michaels or DX. I'm assuming a Mr. McMahon episode is coming soon and they'll go into that.
Dark Ninja
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remind me who Veronica Lane is with pics
Perspicacity
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Lance Storm started the WCW Invasion 28.05.01 Never Forget
lovely ladies
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Love Angle, one of the best combos of a good wrestler and good talker (going only by his WWE work).
avengers23
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Christ, Chavo Guerrero can't save anything or anyone.
serenewarfare
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Jericho's podcast with Triple H was interesting. He mentions how he was one of the guys saying they needed to cut down on gimmicks and focus on the wrestling, but if you look at NXT, there are a lot more gimmicks there than on the main roster today. So he must have changed perspective on that. I do like that he seems to care a lot more about the in-ring than the out-of-ring though.
avengers23
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Uhaa Nation vs. Ricochet might be enough to get me to go. Also, seeing Zack Sabre Jr. live.
The Premier Athlete Brand has the stink of the Embassy in its dying final days about it without the entertainment of Prince Nana or nailing Jimmy Rave in the head with a roll of toilet paper.
I bought Danganronpa for the Vita when it was on sale recently. My Vita has a mix of games I bought (Danganronpa, Spelunky, MLB 14 The Show, Crimsonland) and games I got for free (Don't Starve, Gravity Rush).
That may be true, but his recent hirings show that he might be going back to focusing on wrestling instead of gimmicks. He probably had Vince in his ear early on, and then when they saw most of the NXT call ups fail on Raw, he went back to an in-ring focus.
So far episode 3 is the shits in the monday night wars series. It was like wwe couldn't wait to bust their load to remind us HEY WE BEAT WCW LOLLOLOLZ!
What they should have did for episode 3 was focus more on the origins of the attitude era like austin 3:16 speech, the ECW hostile takeover on raw, and etc. It's like wwe don't want to accept the fact that the true attitude era was during 96-97.
What they should have did for episode 3 was focus more on the origins of the attitude era like austin 3:16 speech, the ECW hostile takeover on raw, and etc. It's like wwe don't want to accept the fact that the true attitude era was during 96-97.
serenewarfare
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The good thing is that most of the guys with gimmicks can still go in the ring, with Breeze being the main example.
You do know that the show will have 20 episodes and they'll inevitably get to all that, right?
Probably because of ratings. The "true" Attitude Era was still getting beat pretty handily by Nitro, but it was a much more exciting and unpredictable product.
Too bad they blew most of Breeze's character work on Miz. Also, he lost his awesome theme song to a god damn USA Network series!
Fucking Miz.
Triple h always had a wrestler mindset. Dude is the epitome of old school. If only Vince step down and let trips continue to push the company in the right direction...it would be great. It's like people that try to embody what makes wrestling great in the wwe, Vince tries so hard to sabotage the ideas hence why Shane left....
skip episode 3. it's filler.
serenewarfare
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I think Breeze is good enough at the character and that there is just enough variation (model vs. movie star) that they could make it work. As for his theme song, I said yesterday that I hated his new one when he first used it, but now I think it's perfect for him.
I'm still trying to figure out why 20 episodes 0_o. What more that needs to be said that could have been a 6 part mini series. Unless they really are going to go deep with this series like Black Saturday, Clash vs Wrestlemania, and rumors of Russo sabotaging nitro for Vince...it seems like a waste of network bandwidth.
Perspicacity
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Gimmicks are fine so long as one of the first things a gimmick addresses is: why is this person underpants fighting other men?
I miss when gimmicks didn't need a explanation from commentary. Just give me some segments ala The Wyatt Family I'm good. I hate when a gimmick gets debuted on raw and Cole tries to tell me the story like I actually want to use my damn imagination.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888056
How does this guy still have thread making privileges?
How does this guy still have thread making privileges?
Sibersk Esto
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Let it go, man
It ain't right! We here, and they there! OT was our's!
shuri still has them.
Wat what? They were sideshows that were really over. Nobody cared about what ultimately happened to them. Nobody took them seriously. Things can be popular while people still don't ever take them seriously.
Like, what's the amazing DX feud of the Attitude Era? Triple H vs The Rock? Because people bring it up as 'that one good Triple H match' every single time?
BronsonLee
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Oh come on man, Neo is baller as hell
The real Attitude Era was 1997-1998. Even by 1999 things had changed. The roots were in 1996, but most of 1996 was still full of a lot of cartoony bullshit even at the end of the year. You have Real Ass Stone Cold and Loose Cannon Pillman, but you still had the Godwinns/New Rockers/Aldo/Jesse James/Sal Sincere and so on. By WM 13, I think Attitude Era was in full swing. Probably even before that. But 1996 wasn't the start. It was the genesis of the beginning of the start of the genesis of The Attitude Era.
sonikokaruto
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we need more rotundo bolievieng over here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=888029
I just checked urban dictionary and "baller" does not mean "batshit crazy".
BronsonLee
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He made the GOTG OT, he's good people. PS Urban Dictionary is for jobbers
Are you a jobber, DM?!
lovely ladies
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lol, to be fair, I think that topic's actually better than his last one... nothing's worse than his last one.
Perspicacity
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Checking Urban Dictionary is almost as bad as bean breath's learn to read app.
He IS a jobber. Just like Savio Vega.
He also made "Should Marvel Release a Sing-Along Version of GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY?"
I don't think he has a problem with gimmicks, per say, it's the overly wacky "non-wrestler" gimmicks like a fireman or a garbageman that are taking it over board. Like you wonder why this character is even wrestling at this show.
Like the Vaudevillains are an overtly wacky gimmick, but there isn't a question of why they are there in matches, since they're still wrestlers.
BronsonLee
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Sibersk Esto
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Calling Marvel fans fat nerds with no taste in that Blade thread
One of the funnier things was Shawn being the heel commish ripping on face Triple H in his feud with The Rock. Basically saying he's a nobody, not worth The Rock's time or deserving of a title shot, and he only hangs out with champions, he's never been one.
serenewarfare
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If the rumors about Blade 4 happening are true, we just might find out.
Yeah, DX was never taken seriously assuming you live in a universe where WrestleMania 14 didn't happen.
Sibersk Esto
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"Looks like your mascara's running."
"I promise you, you'll be dead by dawn."
"You give Frost a message from me. You tell him it's open season on all suckheads."
"Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill."
lovely ladies
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He went in there guns blazing Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid style.
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