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September Wrasslin |OT| Team WWF vs. The World
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slightconfuse
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i agree with his last point X-division has been non existant on TV
You mean the new Paul E. Dangerously? He should form a new Dangerous Alliance. Punk as Rick Rude, Ziggler or Cody Rhodes as Stunning Steve, Swagger and maybe McGillicutty as Arn/Eaton or Arn/Larry Legend.
Prediction time!
Austin Aries vs Armbreaker or random Aces & Eights Member
Samoa Joe vs Jeff Hardy
Bully Ray vs James Storm
Styles/Angle vs Daniels/Kazarian
Sonjay Dutt vs Zema Ion
Tara vs Miss Tessmacher
RVD vs Magnus
BFG Finals Prediction:
Samoa Joe vs James Storm
It's really hard to predict the BFG series even this late. Joe vs Aries would be an awesome PPV match, Bully Ray just got a contract which could include winning the BFG series, Storm has been built to win, but Storm vs Roode non-title would be the better BFG match for him. I just don't know which way they'll go, so I'll go with Joe vs Aries because that would be a guaranteed great match for the title.
I was trying to remember why I stopped watching luchador wrestling on the weekend, and it just hit me. The style is way too choreographed. Every match seems centered around spot after spot, and it seems so "fake". It also hurts that no one seems interested in selling, then matches just end abruptly. There seems to be no cohesion.
Of course, I admit that I'm too used to the American WWE style, where matches slowly build up and are treated like "real fights" where moves tend to happen for a reason (working on a body part or something), then you hit a finisher and the match ends.
Of course, I admit that I'm too used to the American WWE style, where matches slowly build up and are treated like "real fights" where moves tend to happen for a reason (working on a body part or something), then you hit a finisher and the match ends.
You can always tell when they're going through the motions to just get to the next spot.....that can be boring. What I like is when it seems like they're just trying to do something bigger each time to finish their opponent, and it just doesn't work till they find the one thing that does.
That's definitely the style. Its just the way it is. Its why lucha careers go 20-30 years. The best lucha matches are the ones where the slowness isn't evident. Of course, lucha brawls are a different stories
Mr. Luchador
Member
I miss a week and HHH shaves his hair off.
Holy shit, I just watched Impact and forgot the X-Division even existed. There was also no run down of the card. I guess matches were kind of announced (on the go home show), but there wasn't a "hey, this is what we have for the PPV this weekend!". All the matches were announced with in the last half hour or so, with the BFG series sorted out, Aries vs Festus, and the tag titles matches all announced in pretty short order.
God, the tag titles match was awful. I don't know what the hell happened there. Daniels and Chavo both have made careers out of being the most non-offensive wrestlers possible who have general chemistry with everyone. Except each other, I guess. And Hernandez is the only guy who gets worse as he gets more experienced and gets to work with more talented vets.
God, the tag titles match was awful. I don't know what the hell happened there. Daniels and Chavo both have made careers out of being the most non-offensive wrestlers possible who have general chemistry with everyone. Except each other, I guess. And Hernandez is the only guy who gets worse as he gets more experienced and gets to work with more talented vets.
billy beane
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Yeah they've done a really good job of making the tournament pretty unpredictable. I can honestly see any of those four winning the whole thing.
It hurts when there's simply no selling, because it makes it sound like the moves have no consequence. I don't want to feel like you're doing a move to try to impress me, I want to feel like you're doing a move because you're trying to win.
That and it makes me confused as to why one move didn't hurt and a different one that looks the same put the opponent away.
It also hurts that the storylines make no sense (to me), and every damn match seems to become an elimination tag team match, lol.
Exactly. It's like no one cared enough to think this stuff out. Whatever, though. Different styles, I guess.
All tag matches are elimination in lucha!
Also, a lot of moves are considered death moves, so if you're in one, you're done. Think of certain lucha moves as the complete opposite of angle's moveset
That's one reason I like tag matches in this style a bit better than singles matches. With tag matches, you get to sell a bit while the other guys take some time to do something crazy.....until you get to a Dragon Gate six man where all six guys are pretty much going full on for 45 minutes.
Yes, but why do all singles matches end up being tag matches? Is Teddy Long the ruler of CMLL/AAA?
On some level, it's why I couldn't get into Dragon Gate. When I watched it, I felt like it was just spot after spot. Impressive spots, but it seemed like they weren't trying to have a wrestling match, but rather an impressive display of athleticism.
The best wrestling matches are the ones that feel like they're real. The ones with actual strategy, like old boxing matches.
I don't think I've ever seen this happen. They were probably tags to start with, just the rudos jumping the technicos before everyone is out, which is pretty common
canadian crowe
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I love hipster Ohno. He was really good in thus episode. It is a good look for him and I hope he keeps it when he's brought up.
That's got to be it, then. My Spanish is horrible, so all I see is some guys in the ring get jumped, some authority comes out, two refs get in the ring (one heel, one face), then a massive brawl, then after a while the bell rings.
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Deleted member 47027
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Also something that lucha has that is lacking in American wrestling is tradition and honor for the technicos. There's real motivation there - basically the polar opposite of how John Cena works. And if you think someone looks like a badass heel? They're probably a technicos.
I could never get the two ref thing.....that's one thing that always especially struck me as odd when watching lucha without knowing anything about it. Now even that I know something about lucha, it's still a bit odd. Two refs, a technicos and a rudos in the same match just doesn't compute as an American wrestling fan.
Even Chikara doesn't copy that aspect of Lucha.
Even Chikara doesn't copy that aspect of Lucha.
WWE 13 NEwz,
-Smackdown 06 arena is in(big fist arena)
-interview specifically cites Ryback but doesn't confirm him
-Create-A-Arena has different sizes, so you can recreate something like Hammerstein
-'quick','normal', or 'epic' modes for matches. The idea here seems to be setting the scales so you can have a squash match, a 'tv mathc' or a 'big ppv match' time length so your guys isn't winded after 5 minutes, and you're more likely to kick out of finishers.
-WWE 13 has over 80 wrestlers on the disc, over 100 with planned dlc, so at least 20ish dlc characters
-Smackdown 06 arena is in(big fist arena)
-interview specifically cites Ryback but doesn't confirm him
-Create-A-Arena has different sizes, so you can recreate something like Hammerstein
-'quick','normal', or 'epic' modes for matches. The idea here seems to be setting the scales so you can have a squash match, a 'tv mathc' or a 'big ppv match' time length so your guys isn't winded after 5 minutes, and you're more likely to kick out of finishers.
-WWE 13 has over 80 wrestlers on the disc, over 100 with planned dlc, so at least 20ish dlc characters
Chauncy Talon
Member
My picks for the night
Austin Aries vs random Aces & Eights Member
Samoa Joe vs Jeff Hardy
Bully Ray vs James Storm
Styles/Angle vs Daniels/Kazarian
Sonjay Dutt vs Zema Ion
Tara vs Miss Tessmacher
RVD vs Magnus
BFG Finals Prediction:
Samoa Joe vs James Storm
Professor Beef
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Don't forget to post the link to the IRC.
Post it if you got it.....don't have the link.
Dthomp
Member
Wow that's a bit harsh. If Joe seemed like he gave a shit and got into slightly better shape he would have gotten a push. TNA has literally pushed EVERYBODY else so he's gotta look in the mirror and be more entertaining out there like Bully Ray did.
NihonTiger90
Member
FUCK.
Go go Bully Ray.
Go go Bully Ray.
Chauncy Talon
Member
Just a waste. :-/ Let's go Bully Ray. We will know your TNA status by your match tonight.
TheNatural
My Member!
LOL the TNA finish. If AKI made a TNA game, everyone's finisher would be a rollup. I swear every PPV it's used like 5 times on a show.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
fml
DKehoe
Member
Is it a case of him being lazy or do his knee injuries make it hard for him to lose weight now?
I want Bully Ray to be the Champion of Champions, but Jeff against A Double is about the only match up I'd be interested in seeing Jeff in. I think it could be a really fun match, especially since Jeff has really upped his game again. He's not quite at 2009 levels, but he's the closest he's been since then.
What were they saying before the You got bitch slapped?
Devon's Better I think.
Oh hahaha I think that's what it is. Bully is so freaking good.