So far I am enjoying the game, but by god the save system is an awful design decision. The interface is also clearly designed for tablets like others have said. It also seems like it might be a little on the simple and linear side, but I am still enjoying it so far. It might just be because it is whacking me over the head with nostalgia of RPGs of yesteryear.
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Shadowrun Returns |OT| Never, ever cut a deal with a dragon.
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ambientmystic
Member
Also just a heads to up those running space constrained SSDs as your primary HDD coupled with a massive secondary mechanical drive.
The game actually literally duplicates itself as cache in the following location after a first run:-
C:\Users\(YourUserName)\AppData\LocalLow\Unity\WebPlayer\Cache\Harebrained Schemes_Shadowrun
Which occupies yet another 1.32 GB of your precious space (same space occupied by the game itself in the original installation folder), a big deal of you're on a space constrained SSD, and you're wondering where your space has disappeared to after running the game.
I just ended up making a junction of that folder to my secondary larger partition.
The game actually literally duplicates itself as cache in the following location after a first run:-
C:\Users\(YourUserName)\AppData\LocalLow\Unity\WebPlayer\Cache\Harebrained Schemes_Shadowrun
Which occupies yet another 1.32 GB of your precious space (same space occupied by the game itself in the original installation folder), a big deal of you're on a space constrained SSD, and you're wondering where your space has disappeared to after running the game.
I just ended up making a junction of that folder to my secondary larger partition.
Chance Hale
Member
Anyone find a way to get the bodies to stop disappearing?
Woo-Fu
Banned
Zero user interaction required for saving is the most casual save system there is.
The situation was very similar with both NWN games, they are widely known as "construction set games" and it still wasn't that impressive. Granted, both vanilla NWN and NWN2 were pretty bad, which made some user modules look much better in comparison.
I understand where this is coming from, P&P and all, but I'm quite sceptical about the actual quality. P&P is one thing, since pen and paper is almost literally all you need and you can succeed as long as you can write decently, but video games require considerably more than that: quality assets, portraits, music, all preferably not borrowed from the vanilla game. Overall, it takes much more effort to create a video game campaign and it's hard to believe that the supposed modding community will be able to make 10+ hours long quality campaigns in the future. It's still possible, of course, but I wouldn't bet on that, and it certainly wouldn't be a factor in my buying decision.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Id like someone to totally overhaul this game and give it a real inventory system along with other things.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I guess with episodic content players don't really get end credits, just a sense they played 1/4 a game. This makes me mad at developers for episodic content.
Who in the hell likes being given 1/4 of a game?
xxjuicesxx
Member
Yes but its not episodic.
cj_iwakura
Member
For lack of a better term, are people going good or evil?
I'm playing a nice guy so far, and it's been fun.
I'm playing a nice guy so far, and it's been fun.
superdeluxe
Member
A YouTuber has been doing LP's with the UGC campaign. They are beta, but you can the feel of it
superdeluxe
Member
Doesn't seem like there's much of a choice outside of conversation options which do not affect anything (and it's usually more like snarky talk - polite talk - street talk anyway). The only "evil" options that matter are the ones declining a sidequest offer, which makes you miss out on experience and rewards.
NullPointer
Member
The truthiness of this frightens me to the core.
Tokubetsu
Member
Was wondering this myself.
cj_iwakura
Member
Cherry Bomb is my new favorite character. They nailed the writing in this game.
Everyone feels like a person.
How are portraits handled for custom quests? Can you use your own, or just preselected?
Everyone feels like a person.
How are portraits handled for custom quests? Can you use your own, or just preselected?
Chance Hale
Member
Given how expensive the deluxe edition is you'd think we'd get something better than MP3 files for the soundtrack >_>
We need a FLAC defense force up in here.
Tokubetsu
Member
We're here, watching from the shadows.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Man I was not gonna buy any games this month because I plan to spend cash on a headset for streaming....
But I really can't help myself in this case. At least it's cheaper than the other game I want, Dragon's Crown!
But I really can't help myself in this case. At least it's cheaper than the other game I want, Dragon's Crown!
Yeah, that's why I was asking. Looks like we only have the mediocre quality MP3's at the moment.
Maybe if you can buy it from their own store? I think an issue may be how Steam handles DLC, once you own it it's ALWAYS downloaded, and while that's probably for the best in ensuring everyone has the same content for MP it's kind of a bitch for bulky extras that aren't even game data.
Though Deus Ex handled it by throwing it under Tools...
cj_iwakura
Member
It's the little things.
Chance Hale
Member
I'm sure there are ways of handling it, especially given you just brought one up
As a Decker, should I put any points into gun or melee?
Did some streaming of the game, someone mentioned that the art style really reminded them of Transistor and I can't say I disagree with them.
Man I'm loving this game so far. Takes me waaay back.
Oh, and Idle Thumbs is going to do some casting of Shadowrun soon at http://www.twitch.tv/idlethumbs/ so check that out.
Man I'm loving this game so far. Takes me waaay back.
Oh, and Idle Thumbs is going to do some casting of Shadowrun soon at http://www.twitch.tv/idlethumbs/ so check that out.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Slightly problematic when one needs to shut down his PC eh?
MrCompletely
Member
caught a funny Game of Thrones/Clash of Kings reference in Pikes Place -
the torturer in the royal apartments is named "The Tickler"
Just started. I made a dwarf mage and did the very first battle. I didn't know this game has a combat system inspired by the new XCOM. A pleasant surprise, to be sure. I did have one of my party members die during that battle, which makes me wonder - how does death work in this game? I noticed there's a counter, and then their corpse disappears after it reaches 0. In a normal non-flashback situation, what happens in that case? Gone forever?
There are items you can use to revive your party members, I think they are called trauma kits. I'm not sure how they work exactly, because nobody in my party died yet.
EDIT: But it feels like they indeed can die for good, judging by quest objectives like "don't let character X die". Maybe you have to revive them with a trauma kit before the timer runs out?
superdeluxe
Member
It's the little things.
8/9/57 #neverforget
Yes, there's permdeath. You have a number of turns to revive the character in battle, like in Tactics Ogre.
Most of your party members are people you hire, and while I haven't had someone die yet, I assume that if you let someone croak completely without hitting em with a doc wagon trauma kit then they probably disappear from the hiring pool.
I wonder if letting that shaman die in the flashback fight will have any effect on the story. Maybe I should start over.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
That's good to know. I played a little bit today.. been working on some other titles at the moment. You know that was the first thing that popped in my head when I was starting a new game.
SRR has a great feel to it. Very nice crisp graphics.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Anyone going to make tutorials on the editor? Hopefully something in layman's terms. I have zero programming know how, but I'm dying to create my own content. I looked over some tutorials from HBS on youtube and the wiki, but their cursory demonstration wasn't very helpful. Maybe I just have to mess around with it more.
Grimløck;72909331 said:
http://shadowrunrebuilt.com/
That's not exactly comprehensive, but its a start.
superdeluxe
Member
So many guys grew up with SR PnP that now code/programming/modding, I think very soon great things will be coming
cj_iwakura
Member
No one died in mine. Nothing yet. I doubt it'll be relevant, but we'll see.
HORRORSHØW
Member
Thanks a lot. I feel like I can grow with that site.
cj_iwakura
Member
Haven't been this immersed in an RPG this much in a long time. Every NPC feels alive.
Just returned to the Seamstress for the second visit:
The guy in the underground sells some AMAZING spells. I can see Mage becoming OP very fast.
Just returned to the Seamstress for the second visit:
Rescued Coyote and got the gems. Hellhound solo = ow.
The guy in the underground sells some AMAZING spells. I can see Mage becoming OP very fast.
OniBarubary
Banned
Alright, so I'm now 6 hours in and I only have 2 real complaints.
1. I don't care about the linearity of the game, with it's mission based structure and such. But I am sorta annoyed at the lack of ANYTHING within those areas. I'm not exactly looking for the SNES game all over again, but c'mon, I have found 3 random items lying around so far and that is ALL. Barely any other conversations, no computers to hack (which will be furthered in my second complaint) and a distressing lack of equipment. There are so few items in the game.
Now, I understand that given the time it took to make the game and money involved that they were limited on both time and development and small stuff like that was probably not top priority. But it's sorta annoying to go through, say the airplane hanger, and find literally NOTHING random to poke or prod at. Lemme fuck around and hack every computer to max my credstick, or find a shotgun in a hidden stash or talk to a dude who is literally useless but is just there to call me a fraghole. SOMETHING.
2. 6 hours in, ONE TIME TO USE MY DECKER TO ENTER THE MATRIX. What the fuck? I've been building her since the beginning of the game to be a hackasaurus and there's been one Matrix section in the game so far? Unreal. What makes it suck so much is that the Matrix sections are actually pretty damn cool and doing it in that fight was completely worth it. I have not used it once outside of that combat and so my abilities and fancy deck and ESP and programs sit there gathering dust when I should be hacking every single goddam computer I see to steal their money, data and possibly lewd pictures.
I realize these complaints are rather...silly considering what I've paid for the product and what I noted above, the limited development time and funds, but still; it is souring a game I am otherwise loving pretty harshly.
The campaigns that shall come though, all hope placed, should help alleviate that a great deal. Hell, maybe I'll make one of my own to do that. Or just recreate the SNES game in this engine. Nah, that's a bit of a waste. We need new content.
That being said, that Maerska is a goddam beast and if you throw haste on her she can kill most enemies in one turn. Jesus.
1. I don't care about the linearity of the game, with it's mission based structure and such. But I am sorta annoyed at the lack of ANYTHING within those areas. I'm not exactly looking for the SNES game all over again, but c'mon, I have found 3 random items lying around so far and that is ALL. Barely any other conversations, no computers to hack (which will be furthered in my second complaint) and a distressing lack of equipment. There are so few items in the game.
Now, I understand that given the time it took to make the game and money involved that they were limited on both time and development and small stuff like that was probably not top priority. But it's sorta annoying to go through, say the airplane hanger, and find literally NOTHING random to poke or prod at. Lemme fuck around and hack every computer to max my credstick, or find a shotgun in a hidden stash or talk to a dude who is literally useless but is just there to call me a fraghole. SOMETHING.
2. 6 hours in, ONE TIME TO USE MY DECKER TO ENTER THE MATRIX. What the fuck? I've been building her since the beginning of the game to be a hackasaurus and there's been one Matrix section in the game so far? Unreal. What makes it suck so much is that the Matrix sections are actually pretty damn cool and doing it in that fight was completely worth it. I have not used it once outside of that combat and so my abilities and fancy deck and ESP and programs sit there gathering dust when I should be hacking every single goddam computer I see to steal their money, data and possibly lewd pictures.
I realize these complaints are rather...silly considering what I've paid for the product and what I noted above, the limited development time and funds, but still; it is souring a game I am otherwise loving pretty harshly.
The campaigns that shall come though, all hope placed, should help alleviate that a great deal. Hell, maybe I'll make one of my own to do that. Or just recreate the SNES game in this engine. Nah, that's a bit of a waste. We need new content.
That being said, that Maerska is a goddam beast and if you throw haste on her she can kill most enemies in one turn. Jesus.
Hmm, that makes sense.
Maybe if we're lucky they'll put the FLAC up on bandcamp or something. Music this good deserves better than 167 kbps!
Chance Hale
Member
Was about to ask if I was missing something with the Matrix abilities but it seems it's limited in use.
Snapshot King
Member
Can someone explain to me how Deckers work? I started and it seems all I can do is mark targets. Do I have to buy new hacking spells or what?
xxjuicesxx
Member
Streaming the game, I'm at the beginning http://www.twitch.tv/sometimesimepic
Will be spoilers if you havent played through yet.
Will be spoilers if you havent played through yet.
I saw that but didn't get it, lol, what is this a reference to?It's the little things.
