JLB
Banned
a. its not the case
b. apple actually is free to do whatever they want in its walled garden. Same as Sony didnt give the freedom to their users to sub to ea play.
"Shark" - Netflix gaming platform iOS app code contains images of Dual Sense and Ghost of Tsushima
b. apple actually is free to do whatever they want in its walled garden. Same as Sony didnt give the freedom to their users to sub to ea play.
Bryank75
Banned
Meh, I don't think most people will want to play like that.
Maybe it has an audience.
Maybe it can be a gateway to console and PC gaming....which will always be the core of gaming. IMO
Zok310
Banned
Works out great for both if true. NF gets to launch their games streaming platform with PS ip means that's one company they don't have to compete with. Finally PS ip benefit off the exposure NF install base will bring.
Netflix can also turn around an have PS studios make their games for them, NF don't have to worry about buying up studious and managing devs.
Netflix can also turn around an have PS studios make their games for them, NF don't have to worry about buying up studious and managing devs.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I am testing 2 gig fiber for my small service provider in southern Indiana and my ping to nearby larger cities is great and I don't want any part of streaming games.
Here was my ping today from about 8 hours drive away
reinking
Gold Member
If this is true. A big if. If this works. Another big if. It would be crazy. Talk about instantly expanding your streaming market. Would Sony games be playable on every device Netflix is available? Would this include Xbox? That could be fun to watch unfold.
In all seriousness, even if this is true I do not expect it to be Sony's entire catalogue or even all of the PS Now catalogue. I think Sony would treat it like PC games and be selective about what they would allow on Netflix. After all, it is the Sony way.
In all seriousness, even if this is true I do not expect it to be Sony's entire catalogue or even all of the PS Now catalogue. I think Sony would treat it like PC games and be selective about what they would allow on Netflix. After all, it is the Sony way.
Spitfire098
Member
If it turns out true...
It would be the same thing as PSMusic and Spotify partnership..
Also this: https://www.gamesradar.com/netflix-...to-sony-films-like-uncharted-mobius-and-more/
Also this: https://www.gamesradar.com/netflix-...to-sony-films-like-uncharted-mobius-and-more/
Why would they canabilize their own service? Doesn't seem likely.
Did Sony release info for this worldwide? Any links?
How's that Epic vs Apple court case going? How would Netflix / Epic (Fortnite) / Netflix Gaming/PSNow all not being on Apple effect things?
Wasn't the ipad marketed as a lazing about entertainment device for Netflix, and surely the quality of games on PSNow/NFLXGaming far outweighs whatever is on Apple Arcade?
Tygeezy
Member
That's as good as I stream with my own network because moca adds a few milliseconds of latency when converting to Ethernet.I am testing 2 gig fiber for my small service provider in southern Indiana and my ping to nearby larger cities is great and I don't want any part of streaming games.
Here was my ping today from about 8 hours drive away
Dude, your connection is outstanding for streaming.
Still waiting for the judge's decision but I don't know if epic will get anything like what they want.
I think the iOS audience is a captive one especially in the US. If they pushed it into the main app, which I think that they would need to do and get Netflix ios app kicked off. I am not sure what happens, whether Netflix just makes a PWA instead.
So I was right to think your post was odd, because the current theme is attach ratio is not so good…
Bryank75
Banned
Really? Where was that coming from?
And what do you count? Do you count all games bought since the person moved to PS5? Or just the PS5 only games? Or just the games with upgrade? Or all games since the person owned a PS4?
It's a complicated issue.
Many are being sold in a bundle and every console comes with Astrobot, so I doubt it could be that bad.
ZywyPL
Banned
HUGE is true. Leveraging Netflix existing userbase to reach wider audience would be a genius move. The question if the hardware can handle it?
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I also wonder what the payment scheme would be - would Sony get a cut from the existing fees? Or would the price increase, no matter if you're interested in games or not? Or would it be a separate, additional fee?
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I also wonder what the payment scheme would be - would Sony get a cut from the existing fees? Or would the price increase, no matter if you're interested in games or not? Or would it be a separate, additional fee?
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onesvenus
Member
This would be really huge. I'd love to see it working but I have a lot of technical doubts:
1. What makes Netflix great above other streaming companies tech-wise is using edge caching, which won't work at all with games.
2. They could somehow reach an agreement with AWS to have PS4/PS5 racks on there but that's not the same as AWS adding Apple hardware to their datacenters. In that case there was an AWS product that required it, not a client.
3. Even if the agreement in the previous point is reached, having infrastructure to support 200M users from night to day is not a small feat. Even more seeing the chip shortage. I can see a gradual rollout which means the numbers won't be as big as Sony fanboys would like to claim Gamepass dead
4. Not all Netflix players are able to sync to a dualsense controller. Further limiting the number of available users.
5. It's a radically different approach to what Netflix is used to, which is having a reduced core infrastructure with a really expansive edge-caching one.
As I said before, I'd love to see it working. It would be an earthquake of a bigger magnitude than when Microsoft bought Bethesda. Those are most probably placeholders to show how it'd work and nothing else, though.
1. What makes Netflix great above other streaming companies tech-wise is using edge caching, which won't work at all with games.
2. They could somehow reach an agreement with AWS to have PS4/PS5 racks on there but that's not the same as AWS adding Apple hardware to their datacenters. In that case there was an AWS product that required it, not a client.
3. Even if the agreement in the previous point is reached, having infrastructure to support 200M users from night to day is not a small feat. Even more seeing the chip shortage. I can see a gradual rollout which means the numbers won't be as big as Sony fanboys would like to claim Gamepass dead
4. Not all Netflix players are able to sync to a dualsense controller. Further limiting the number of available users.
5. It's a radically different approach to what Netflix is used to, which is having a reduced core infrastructure with a really expansive edge-caching one.
As I said before, I'd love to see it working. It would be an earthquake of a bigger magnitude than when Microsoft bought Bethesda. Those are most probably placeholders to show how it'd work and nothing else, though.
Dream-Knife
Banned
The streaming crash will be bigger than the casual crash during the wii.
Corporations want this, but consumers do not.
Corporations want this, but consumers do not.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Shark just a reskinned PSNow?
Dead on arrival.
Dead on arrival.
Leyasu
Banned
I agree. Every Netflix subscriber is instantly going to become a gamer and subscribe to PSnow. I can already see my 67yr old dad getting a dual sense controller in anticipation……If true it's really the bullet of mercy for GamePass/xCloud.Instant access to 200M+ users.
The wet dreams of fanboys never cease to amaze me
Why do people put stupid irrelevant culture war adjacent posts in threads like this but moving on.
I would be interested if this happens what's the arrangement. We expecting Sony licensing cloud streaming rights for their games to Netflix? At what point? Six months after physical release.
Does Netflix separately go after other games?
I would be interested if this happens what's the arrangement. We expecting Sony licensing cloud streaming rights for their games to Netflix? At what point? Six months after physical release.
Does Netflix separately go after other games?
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
25 dollars for 4k?
Should be 40 dollars per month at least, we are talking about Sony exclusives baby.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Interesting, if true. Netflix has the largest streaming userbase. Converting a percentage of that population could be easier than trying to build their own service. Revenue split would also be interesting. This would theoretically be a mutual partnership, as Sony would get access to a massive audience, even if only a small fraction converts, and Netflix gets a large game platform partner to help them extend into the gaming sector. It's not for me, but the prospect is compelling on the business side. The leader in gaming pairing up with the leader in streaming? That is pretty wild.
I seriously hope sony not joining with netflix, i dont want any part of streaming gaming, the day you get a console and u just streaming games over the internet is the day i stop gaming, sony need to concentrate on getting games out on the ps5 instead of there developers converting games for pc etc or changing the games so they run both ps4 and ps5
CuNi
Member
Also curious how it would handle multiple users. NETFLIX 4K plan allows up to 4 simultaneous viewers. Does this translate directly or is the plan a side grade where you have to buy a special opt in plan? 1 user only? 4 users?
I doubt this deal is happening as Sony is mostly interested in profit and giving access to 4 potential customers with one 5$ sub is just a loss of revenue.
Elbow Identity Shallow
Member
If this was to happen it does make sense that they would want a partnership of some kind and I suppose Sony would make sense. Not just because of the games but they also have their film, TV and music content that they may be able to utilise too. They also have their Cruncyroll and Funimation streaming services that they may want to combine.
I'd also say that maybe it could even become a home for Sony's tournaments and game streaming services at some point.
I'd also say that maybe it could even become a home for Sony's tournaments and game streaming services at some point.
It certainly would be unique if this was to happen. Not saying it will happen, but who knows.
TheDreadLord
Member
So is this Sony confirming that PSNow is garbage compared to the other services available?
Bartski
Member
it's not much, but with PS Plus being hosted on Azure, the latest Playstation DevOps engineering job offer in the UK defines the key role as Amazon Web Service based cloud services support :
PlayStation Europe
boards.greenhouse.io
Was there ever any confirmation regarding what the collaboration with Azure was about?
KungFucius
King Snowflake
And the biggest plus, these deals are made on a case by case basis and do not influence future deals made between different parts of the company. FFS every company has relationships with loosely competing ones. Companies use MS products hosted on Amazon's cloud while building products for Microsoft, Amazon, and Google. Every deal can be completely independent.
Shelookdlvl18
Banned
Yeah, the vast overwhelming majority of Playstation owners don't care about PSNow. And you think Netflix users are going to save it?
I honestly don't see how they could make it work. I'm sure if both invested heavily into the venture, sure. But there's tons of pieces that need to be put together for this to work.
Do they expect people to buy a dualsense?
Does Netflix price go up?
Would anything with a Netflix app be able to use this?
How would Netflix acquire the servers?
Why would anyone buy a PS5 if they've got Netflix.
MilkyJoe
Member
If true it's really the bullet of mercy for GamePass/xCloud.
You know Xcloud has access to every pc, mobile phone, tablet and just about every Internet enabled device out ty here?
And still only 25? Mio. if you use the Gamepass numbers?
Seems like nobody is interested in Cloud shit, thankfully.
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megreotsugua
Banned
If true it's really the bullet of mercy for GamePass/xCloud.
Bo, this is what I have been saying. MS gamepass model is a dead end. Casuals will never subscribe to a service with only games offered. The key to the 1 billion casual gamers is through the combination of movies, shows, and videogames.
I called it. Netflix Gaming vs Netflix of Gaming
megreotsugua
Banned
Price will not go up. I have a thread about this. Netflix Gaming vs Netflix of Gaming . I'll just quote myself.
Netflix spent $17B on content in 2020. What if just $2B of that went into buying old successful games or including making their own games? = Game streaming to casuals of 300 million subs.
How does it benefit Netflix? Retention. More variety of entertainment that could hook a subscriber when the show he's binge-watching is over.
How does Netflix try to grow and retain its subscriber for now? Netflix provides a lot of movies and shows that will cater to every taste. Netflix has, old shows, new shows, Western, Asian, Latino, Arabic, European, Anime, teen movies, kids shows - all of them you can possibly imagine.
That's how it should work, or they'll miss the opportunity.
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megreotsugua
Banned
I'd hate it if it will offer Sony's 1st party games day 1 of release with an option to download.
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netflix ups their price by $1 it seems almost every 6 months lol there's no shot they don't increase their price shortly after
megreotsugua
Banned
If they do then it's the natural result of increasing their profits.
THEAP99
Banned
Jim Ryan himself said yesterday in an interview that they want Sony games to be similar to Hollywood movies in how they create emotional stories and such. Therefore they must think that there's an audience on Netflix who may be interested in cinematic games. This makes sense TBH and partnership is probably happening
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