I loved Ghost of Tsushima... why am I not excited for Ghost of Yotei??

Im not interested in it simply because im not interested in anything Sony has been doing lately. They have really let me down this generation. All console gaming has.

As for as people actually having an issue with a woman being in the game, probably the same folks that bitched about assassins creed shadows.
People talk about representation, well, I don't feel represented playing as women. I have an easier time to immerse myself in the character if it's a male. That's just normal. I'm not saying I can't play as a woman as I enjoy Metroid and Horizon, but if I got to choose it would always be as a male character.
 
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so?
Thank god not every game is a gooner bait.
Wouldn't it break immersion running as anime babe in realistic japan ?
Doesn't it break immersion to have a woman roaming the wilderness, cutting down hundreds of battle-hardened warriors without an issue? If you want immersion, the first gang she comes across should cut her head off, game over.
 
Doesn't it break immersion to have a woman roaming the wilderness, cutting down hundreds of battle-hardened warriors without an issue? If you want immersion, the first gang she comes across should cut her head off, game over.
No it doesn't and I can't believe you even bring up that tired fucking question. this game is not woke.
And she is like a ninja you know?
At the end of the day, she swings a katana, man swings a katana. it's the katana that kills
 
Imagine not even noticing that every piece of media in the past 10 years has replaced normal characters with some subversive message about an identity group. These are the people who clap when R2D2 shows up in the new Star Wars. Totally vacant consumers.
 
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Doesn't it break immersion to have a woman roaming the wilderness, cutting down hundreds of battle-hardened warriors without an issue? If you want immersion, the first gang she comes across should cut her head off, game over.
Only slightly more than a man doing so.

But the clothing is a choice in order to be consistent with the world Atsu inhabits. We have an expectation of what the historical clothing and the armour of the time was like. The "One hero versus many" trope is a fantasy we already accept as we know it's a gameplay abstraction and it satisfies the power fantasy trope as well. Plus it makes for fun gameplay.

Perfect historical realism is not the goal here, a world with internal consistency in its visual language is.
 
I have no problem with a female character, but for fucksakes make her an interesting character. The Bride, Ripley, Sarah Conner, Sadie (rdr2), both women in expedition 33, are incredibly well written characters, who have flaws, development, and don't shy away from the fact that they are in fact women.

If SP just slaps a dude story arc on this character, makes no real effort to explore the character arc of a women in this position (and instead goes for that lazy women characterization we have seen in the last decade), eff that.
 
Because we you prefer Jin's butt.

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More retarded than a 110 lb woman fighting 5 grown men at once? Women are struggling to be police officers in the modern era of guns and tazers.

Katanas didn't exist by the time mongols first rolled onto Tsushima. Nor did the samurai code. Nor did the armors shown in the game.

What's your point?
 
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Doesn't it break immersion to have a woman roaming the wilderness, cutting down hundreds of battle-hardened warriors without an issue? If you want immersion, the first gang she comes across should cut her head off, game over.
If there is ever a place for woman to beat man in fight, it's with katanas. They are light and sharp as fuck. Even a preteen could cut a grown dudes limb off with that shit.
 
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I know the game is designed to be 'kind of' grounded in reality, and I think it looks amazing for what it is, but I personally hope they have some DLC that enhances the base game with Yokai and magical elements similar to those found in Legends (but single player not multiplayer). I just find fighting monsters and having weapons with magic infinitely more interesting. If I could wave my magic wand there would be a new game plus DLC where a bunch of Yokai have invaded everywhere, possessing human enemies and adding in crazy ass monsters you got to fight through. I want an undead nightmares version of the game a la red dead but with Yokai.
 
Dunno about others but for me, unless it a sequel to a game I really loved, I'm not going to be as hyped with it as with the first game mainly because I already know how it'll play and what to expect. Plus, they haven't really shown a lot of this game, no? No actual gameplay sequences, unless I'm mistaken.
sounds like a dumb reason when you take into account a lot of sequels that play like their predecessors but better. Some take a 6.5/10 gameplay loop and make a little changes here and there that make it an 8.5. Don't be hasty to write off a sequel like that!!

i think the hatred just comes down to the female protagonist. Which is dumb. It's a sequel carrying the same style and concept sure but the setting is different and the main character is going to be as well.|
This whole hatred over the girl protag feels like forced drama
 
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Also worth keeping in mind that these tiresome people are at least punching up: at corporations, multi million-dollar studios and well-paid executives with Bay Area condos and gold-plated health plans.
We are getting upset because that's actually not the case. A majority of the hate is going to interns, community managers, and employees rather than the executives if at all. they're called LGBT activists and shit. Everybody happily names names for some blue haired feminist working in the company but nobody hates on the C-suite at all
 
I also don't have any interest.

Regardless of what some people or the developers may say, it's clearly politically motivated to have a female protagonist this time.
Especially these days it seem there are more games with a female protagonist than a male protagonist, it's buffling why they wanted to change it in an existing franchise as well.

Aside from that, it kind of looks like a DLC rather than a full game, it's just more of the same.
 
Tsushima was solid but I felt suffered some clear development turmoil and change in direction.

I'm excited for the new one to see where they can take it with a more focused story, and a more interesting main character. Jin is maybe the weakest first-party character from that late PS4 golden age, and that's saying a LOT when you consider he's competing w/ Aloy and Deacon.
 
Katanas didn't exist by the time mongols first rolled onto Tsushima. Nor did the samurai code. Nor did the armors shown in the game.

What's your point?

None of that has anything to do with Ghost of Yotei, though. The picture you responded to and what BennyBlanco BennyBlanco said were referencing this game, not Ghost of Tsushima.

But the katana, armor, and samurai code are minor items that 99% of people wouldn't consider to be immersion-breaking because they don't know that these things are wrong/inaccurate. But virtually everyone knows that it's incredibly unlikely for an average-sized woman to take down five grown men at once, regardless of what time in history it occurs.
 
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None of that has anything to do with Ghost of Yotei, though. The picture you responded to and what BennyBlanco BennyBlanco said were referencing this game, not Ghost of Tsushima.

But the katana, armor, and samurai code are minor items that 99% of people wouldn't consider to be immersion-breaking because they don't know that these things are wrong/inaccurate. But virtually everyone knows that it's incredibly unlikely for an average-sized woman to take down five grown men at once, regardless of what time in history it occurs.
Believe it or not it is also pretty impossible for a man to take down five other men at once too.

It's a video game.
 
Doesn't it break immersion to have a woman roaming the wilderness, cutting down hundreds of battle-hardened warriors without an issue? If you want immersion, the first gang she comes across should cut her head off, game over.

The characters sex doesnt break the immersion any more one way than the other.

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Voting with my wallet here, last of us 2 was the last time sony got me to play as a lame girlboss. The "actress" is crazy to boot and one of the writers worked on DA: Veilguard.
 
If there is ever a place for woman to beat man in fight, it's with katanas. They are light and sharp as fuck. Even a preteen could cut a grown dudes limb off with that shit.
Strenght is also important. Of course a man killing hundreds isn't super believable either, but if a woman melee kills hundreds of men it's just ridiculous
 
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Strenght is also important. Of course a man killing hundreds isn't super believable either, but if a woman melee kills hundreds of men it's just ridiculous
It's a videogame bro. 5'6 cuckold looking beta Jin taking hundreds of fat and beefy mongolians was just as ridiculous.
 
It's a videogame bro. 5'6 cuckold looking beta Jin taking hundreds of fat and beefy mongolians was just as ridiculous.
Sure, it's a video game, but there's a difference between something being "over the top" and being completely ridiculous. Btw Jin Sakai is estimated to be around 6'1" (1.85m).
 
the story, the reveal showed nothing about the story, tsushima was a samurai vs mongols.
That's true, it's yet another story about the protagonist taking revenge because somebody killed their family. How original.

What's the twist going to be this time? One of the bad guys is an old ally who betrayed them? Maybe her "family" was actually full of bad people and somebody took their own revenge? Can't wait to experience such a "riveting" tale.
 
Sure, it's a video game, but there's a difference between something being "over the top" and being completely ridiculous. Btw Jin Sakai is estimated to be around 6'1" (1.85m).
both were over the top. If she had a Stellar Blade bod, you'd be fine with it. Just say you dont like female protags and move on. I dont like fembosses either.
 
both were over the top. If she had a Stellar Blade bod, you'd be fine with it. Just say you dont like female protags and move on. I dont like fembosses either.
Eve's entire design feels more like an over-the-top parody, kind of like Duke Nukem. I just can't take either of them seriously. Even if they would have cast Margot Robbie for the role of Atsu, it wouldn't improve the combat immersion.
 
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Eve's entire design feels more like an over-the-top parody, kind of like Duke Nukem. I just can't take either of them seriously. Even if they would have cast Margot Robbie for the role of Atsu, it wouldn't improve the combat immersion.

Sure, but gaming now has to cater to all demographics including women. It is what it is. The better option imo would've been a custom character. Its not like their budget went into anything since its pretty much the same as the previous one.
 
Sure, but gaming now has to cater to all demographics including women. It is what it is. The better option imo would've been a custom character. Its not like their budget went into anything since its pretty much the same as the previous one.
Custom or two options. I liked the Assassin's Creed Odyssey approach. Play who you want, fuck who you want.
 
I really enjoyed the first Ghosts, it was a little repetitive, and Stellar Blade. Something is off here.

People didn't like Chuck Greene in Dead Rising 2, to the point they remade the game with Frank. Sometimes things are just worse.
 
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Sure, it's a video game, but there's a difference between something being "over the top" and being completely ridiculous. Btw Jin Sakai is estimated to be around 6'1" (1.85m).
Yeah maybe with his stupid feather hat on. First hit in Google when you search "Jin Sakai height".

Jin Sakai's height in Ghost of Tsushima is not explicitly stated in the game, but it is estimated to be around 5'6" (167cm)
 
Eve's entire design feels more like an over-the-top parody, kind of like Duke Nukem. I just can't take either of them seriously. Even if they would have cast Margot Robbie for the role of Atsu, it wouldn't improve the combat immersion.

Eve as a FEMALE ANDROID is more realistic than Atsu as a female samurai.

It's odd how beauty is perceived as "non-realistic" I wonder in what sad reality you live where the standard woman is like Abby or Atsu. In any gym I check out, I see more "Eves" than those two others.
 
Katanas didn't exist by the time mongols first rolled onto Tsushima. Nor did the samurai code. Nor did the armors shown in the game.

What's your point?
You've just said a costume looks 'Too much', yet for everything else, it's 'good'

So which side of the 'It's a computer game' fence do you sit on? :unsure:
 
GoT is in my top 5 from the PS4 generation and I have literally no interest in playing this game as I do not want to play as a female warrior. Full stop.

Asks a question in thread title. Answers his own question while making himself look very childish at the same time.

10/10 thread.
 
Eve as a FEMALE ANDROID is more realistic than Atsu as a female samurai.

It's odd how beauty is perceived as "non-realistic" I wonder in what sad reality you live where the standard woman is like Abby or Atsu. In any gym I check out, I see more "Eves" than those two others.
It's not just about the appearance. The animation, the clothing, etc., all serve a specific purpose, and that purpose is exaggerated. By the way, I urgently need the address of your gyms.
 
Can I explain how this happens? Ok, I'm going to explain. For some games there are diversity riders as I've mentioned. For other games there are internal guidelines to follow and for even other games there are consultants and even woke developers.

That's not what happened with this game imho.

With this game you have a "not our turn" type of thing going on. The developers are feeling LATERAL PRESSURE across the industry to show token diversity. If a western developer makes a game with a white dude as the main character, like Days Gone, then turns around and makes another game with another white dude main character, they will get bused out for having a "boring main character" which is of course coded language on the first game and never get to make the second game(or so it appears).

This is basically like being blacklisted from the movie industry during the 40s.

So there is a neurosis created here in the developers mind at inception of the game. Our next main character can't be a powerful man. We need to signal that we get it and don't just make non-diverse games. However my game is set in Japan, so I can only change the gender(fucking Ubisoft didn't even realize that, lol, they went full woke). Thus is all games.

That wuchang character is so whore'd up it looks retarded.
Dann you are comparing a prostitute which would actually BE in that time period with a dolled up fake purple samurai outfit on a fake female cosplaying samurai and you actually think the prostitutes looks out of place and the fake samurai is not comment worthy.

I guess you think they didn't have nudity in ancient Japan.

I got surprise news for you my man. If there WAS a real female killer in Japan she looked a lot more like the prostitute than the cosplay.
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Imagine thinking the prostitute looks less authentic here.
 
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For me it's not even the drama around DEI. I genuinely don't care about that. It's more that it "looks" like ubislop. The deep dive didn't do any favors. The combat looks generic and I hate the way these types of games just have 4-5 enemies, but only 1 is actively engaging in combat while the rest stand around and watch. It's boring. People can claim all they want that this is better than Ubislop, and maybe they're right, but the problem is it looks like it. I just can't waste my time or money on it.
 
For me it's not even the drama around DEI. I genuinely don't care about that. It's more that it "looks" like ubislop. The deep dive didn't do any favors. The combat looks generic and I hate the way these types of games just have 4-5 enemies, but only 1 is actively engaging in combat while the rest stand around and watch. It's boring. People can claim all they want that this is better than Ubislop, and maybe they're right, but the problem is it looks like it. I just can't waste my time or money on it.

The first game wore out it's welcome by the end of the first map. I dropped it after the second map opened up and saw the same sidequests, chasing foxes, and shit barfed all over it. I'm not slogging through all that. The combat had reached it's potential already and even on the hardest difficulty it got stale by that point.

Much like Spider-Man and God of War...one game was enough. There's not enough substance for 50 hours more of this slop.
 
I have said this in a few other threads and I stand by it. If TLOU2 never came out the first game would have never been held in such high regard. This time there is none of that and with a woman as the protagonist the anti-woke crowd can't latch on to it as the choice of true gamers.
 
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