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Shazam! Fury of the Gods Reviews. The new big DC superhero movie that sucks just as hard as the previous shitty superhero movie.

Bragr

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To be honest I quite enjoyed the first one but somehow I am not surprised by those reviews.
Won’t go to the cinema but pretty sure I’ll rent it on prime in two months or so.
 
What is the fate of this movie going forward in the DCU? Has there been any comment on it? I figured almost every other movie that this might tie into is being redone or not happening anymore, so curious about what happens to this one going forward.
 
What is the fate of this movie going forward in the DCU? Has there been any comment on it? I figured almost every other movie that this might tie into is being redone or not happening anymore, so curious about what happens to this one going forward.
If I remember correctly Shazam isnt part of Gunn's vision for the DCU, so I guess this will be the last we see of him… especially since it’s tracking for an abysmal opening weekend
 
Just got out of the IMAX premiere. Theater was relatively empty compared to other big movies, which does not bode well, and a week from now John Wick Chapter 4 (HYPE!!!) will take its IMAX slot.

Got to say, I enjoyed it. Definitely flawed, with some mediocre CGI and a lack of focus, but overall still a pretty fun and entertaining movie. The characters are likeable, there's plenty of solid jokes and I was never bored.

Much better than Black Adam and Quantumania (not saying much but still). The ****** ***** cameo was great, the ending was solid and the big dragon fight kicked ass.

Not sure what to think about the after credit scene though. The whole DC reboot situation makes me think it's pretty pointless.

Overall a 7/10 for me.
 
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You’re making it sound as though a 51 on Metacritic is a bad thing. It’s an average movie according to the aggregate scores, not the shitheap you’re painting it out to be.
 

FunkMiller

Member
The last dreadful gasps of Snyder’s DCEU shitting their way through theatres this year. The reboot can’t come soon enough… and should have come years ago.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
When DC Shazam and Marvel Ant Man are getting movies, the silver lining strand is getting mighty thin.

Amazingly the first Shazam movie made $366M at the box office when I doubt most people ever heard or followed the character.

But hey, as long as any superhero movie can make good money, might as well just keep churning them out.

If a board room meeting showed forecasts for a DC movie based off the Wonder Twins monkey could make $500M, I'd green light it too no matter how shitty the movie would be.
 

Klosshufvud

Member
The last dreadful gasps of Snyder’s DCEU shitting their way through theatres this year. The reboot can’t come soon enough… and should have come years ago.
Snyder has had nothing to do with the last 6 or so DC movies. From what the rumors say, Gunn has influenced Shazam.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Snyder has had nothing to do with the last 6 or so DC movies. From what the rumors say, Gunn has influenced Shazam.

Don't be silly. Shazam is set in the same universe that Snyder created. The first film constantly references the other Snyder versions of the DC characters. So does this movie. Snyder's Wonder Woman is literally in this film. Snyder's vision is still there. And nobody wants to see it.
 
Don't be silly. Shazam is set in the same universe that Snyder created. The first film constantly references the other Snyder versions of the DC characters. So does this movie. Snyder's Wonder Woman is literally in this film. Snyder's vision is still there. And nobody wants to see it.
But Snyder has not hd creative input on this universe since BvS.
 

Klosshufvud

Member
Don't be silly. Shazam is set in the same universe that Snyder created. The first film constantly references the other Snyder versions of the DC characters. So does this movie. Snyder's Wonder Woman is literally in this film. Snyder's vision is still there. And nobody wants to see it.
Shazam, WW84, Joker, Batman, The Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey have nothing to do with Snyder's own universe. They may re-use some of the actors and whatnot but this isn't the universe that Snyder's own movies were building up to. They mostly only reuse characters out of popularity (like Margott Robbie). Snyder's universe died a long time ago.
 
Justice League. And he put out his version of that two years ago.

Regardless, this is his DCEU. It always was. And it dies this year, thank god.
And his version was really good but it’s not the version that was released in the theatre. So starting from Justice League and onwards it’s not been his DCEU. It’s his actors but not necessarily his characters.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Shazam, WW84, Joker, Batman, The Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey have nothing to do with Snyder's own universe. They may re-use some of the actors and whatnot but this isn't the universe that Snyder's own movies were building up to. They mostly only reuse characters out of popularity (like Margott Robbie). Snyder's universe died a long time ago.

Ah... you're confusing what Snyder wanted to do with his universe, with what other people wanted to do with it, after he put out bad movies himself and left. But to try and argue that these last few DCEU films are totally divorced from his work is crazy. They all rely on it. It's the background they come from. A background people got sick and tired of when he was still very much around.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Looks like this film is now going to open lower than the following:

X-Men: Dark Phoenix.
Birds Of Prey.
Morbius.
Fant4stic Four

And may even go below The Suicide Squad.
 
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Bragr

Banned
People were expecting this to be good?
The first one got good reviews and was really successful considering the more obscure superhero status of Shazam.

But it seems like they just absolutely buried this franchise right here and now, cause this is gonna bomb hard.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
I do think a lot of people go into these superhero movies too seriously. Some are just supposed to be a fun silly time.
The first Shazam was exactly that.
I’m going to see this one today.
 

Klosshufvud

Member
Ah... you're confusing what Snyder wanted to do with his universe, with what other people wanted to do with it, after he put out bad movies himself and left. But to try and argue that these last few DCEU films are totally divorced from his work is crazy. They all rely on it. It's the background they come from. A background people got sick and tired of when he was still very much around.
Kind of a disingenous line of reasoning calling it Snyder's universe regardless. These are just established actors which WB rely on because they can't successfully launch original characters. The fact that WB has failed to decisively move past Snyder's legacy is damning. They left a massive story huge amount of fans enjoyed unfinished. That's going to leave a sour mark on your brand regardless what you re-use or don't.

By the way, The Batman is completely separate from Snyder's own characters and it hardly set the world on fire. Same goes for TSS which apart from recycling Harley Quinn, was thematically polar opposite to Snyder's verse.
 

tkscz

Member
I really liked the first so me and the Mrs. are checking this out today. The first one had heart to it, it was more of a coming of age story first and a super hero movie second, which is what made it work for me.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Shazam always seemed like a one trick pony and the first film played that trick to death. The Billy actor has to be in his late teens by now, at what point does the kid just turn into his adult Shazam form, or is it always gonna be different person? I think they are already keeping the older sister the same, right?

I dug the first one though, hope to see this though March has so e tough competition with wick4 and dnd.
 

Pigenator

Member
Last good cape film was Spidey NWH. All movies since then are pretty much ass.
Shitty scripts, shitty VFX, shitty characters - it's all pretty bad.
Can they get their shit together and start making good content again?
 

Spyxos

Member
Shazam and Ant man 3 are not exactly successful, looks like the long announced superhero fatigue has arrived.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Kind of a disingenous line of reasoning calling it Snyder's universe regardless. These are just established actors which WB rely on because they can't successfully launch original characters. The fact that WB has failed to decisively move past Snyder's legacy is damning. They left a massive story huge amount of fans enjoyed unfinished. That's going to leave a sour mark on your brand regardless what you re-use or don't.

By the way, The Batman is completely separate from Snyder's own characters and it hardly set the world on fire. Same goes for TSS which apart from recycling Harley Quinn, was thematically polar opposite to Snyder's verse.

It made 770 million at the end of a global pandemic, scored high critical reviews, and was a big draw to HBO Max. I’d say WBD are probably a lot happier with that performance, than anything DCEU related for a very long time.
 

AmuroChan

Member
Just came back from seeing it. Pleasantly surprised that it was a lot more fun than I expected. I enjoyed this way more than Black Adam. 7/10 for me.
 

tkscz

Member
That movie was a lot better than what I thought it was going to be. I was worried some of the heart of the first movie was going to be gone, but no it was still there.

The focus on the family here feels more natural, they're a lot less than background characters and even if their development is small it's way more than they got in the first movie. They feel more fleshed out, like their lives matter outside of Billy's (which is part of the theme of the movie). One of them feels like they needed to be focused on, especially when they try to do something with him but it doesn't make sense.
And other movies, see how the gay character came out? Says he's gay, everyone says we know, end of that. It's that fucking easy.

Though the movie gets darker than the previous one, that's for sure.
A lot of by-standers die in this. Like A LOT!

I think it was
smart of them to write in now that Billy has a family, he's scared to death of losing them. He was abandoned so of course it makes sense now that he feels he belongs to a family, he was going to lose them when he turns 18. Refusing to call his foster mom, mom because he's worried once he's 18 she'll abandon him like his birth mom did. It still shows that Billy had room to grow

The villains weren't bad, but
their struggle seemed confusing between Lucy Lue and the older lady. Like the third surprise sister makes her purpose in the trio clear, she just wants to get the seed of life and restore her home, doesn't even care about the powers. But there was no hint that the older one only wants the powers and the seed. She seems like she wants to destroy the world like Lucy does but no she just wants to powers and seed, but that isn't clear at all in the beginning, so when Lucy and old one starts fighting each other, it feels weird. Like there is a scene that helps that a little but the beginning vs that point feel like two different characters.

And by god, after so many unfunny Marvel movies it's good to watch a super hero movie that is funny based on it's situation without needing to make a cringey reference to things outside of the movie or it's universe AND not make jokes during serious situations. Why the fuck is that so damn hard Marvel? People are fucking dying but here comes the one liner train, delivering twenty one liners in one fucking scene.

Is it as good as the first? No, but only because the first felt neatly wrapped. There are a few out of know where moments and you can tell they tried to keep it from being too bloated but wanted to have it feel bigger (a cake and eat it situation). The first movie was less super hero focused and more coming of age focused. This one tried to balance that but it felt like the super hero side won out.
I can't tell if they tried the family mirroring in this one like they did in the first movie. That was really smartly written, here it feels like they tried to go for that, but then dropped it.

It's definitely better than what Marvel has been giving us in phase 4 without a doubt. Honestly, I'd give it a 8/10, I'd watch it again without worrying I'd notice too many issues with it.
 
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Laieon

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