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Sheriff pursuing felonies after Confederate statue torn down
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Well, you can, you just have to cover your face.
It's like Groundhog Day.
Pilgrimzero
Member
I hope more of the statues get pulled down. And if they are put back up, pull them down again.
Though perhaps in the dark of night and with some stealth.
Though perhaps in the dark of night and with some stealth.
Palette Swap
Member
What a silly generalization.
Relax. There's no slippery slope that goes from symbols of oppression to burning down your house or whatever.
AFAIK, only one side has run over people.
hammysaurusrex
Member
It's cute watching the 'usual suspects' talk about the importance of law and order when black men are murdered by police or why we need SWAT teams called in on protesters, but never seem to have much commentary when monuments celebrating civil rights are defiled.
hammysaurusrex
Member
The idea that property is more valuable than people is one of the cornerstones of white America's racism. I strongly encourage you to modify your thought process that removing a statue is "the most harm" compared to running over people with cars.
n00bsauce87
Member
It makes you wonder about all of those people who publicly said that we just have to wait for Trump to make the pivot towards decency since Jeb Bush was still in the running for the republican nominee
When the society allowed racists to create it's laws and social norms. Laws are are created by people they aren't some magical thing that's always existed, they can be wrong. Not just in how they are created but in how they are enforced. Many laws in the US were created with race in mind even if they have been changed or modernized in some way. The formation of the police itself is deeply ingrained with racism.
This shit is getting scary... I'm glad I'm on the outside looking in. Your country is about to go to hell...
Don't answer racism with violence and vigilantism... that's like answering a punch with a gunshot. You are only making things worst.
Spring-Loaded
Member
When the laws and order in question were created by racists.
You'd be one of the people pouring milkshakes on protesters at a sit-in.
You can afford to take this non-committal stance because you're on the outside looking in.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
At worst, they should be charged for littering.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Yeah, they should've cleaned up after and properly disposed of the garbage.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Just talk to the terrorists, maybe they'll decide not to run us over if we speak with soft enough voices.
Kentuchi
Neo Member
I didn't talk about closing eyes and sticking ones head in the sand, I'm talking about anger.
Most of those white supremacists are angry people, defeated people who have been given a means to vent the anger inside them by their ideology. It's a cycle and that's the aim of the enemy.
I'm not American BTW, I'm Nigerian and maybe it's because of how also messed up my continent is that I can tell you that anger won't build your schools and your communities, voting wisely would. It might sound crazy but this anger has led you to vote as a block for the Democratic party, what have you gotten out of that deal?
Your anger has been manipulated because it will be manipulated, that's the way the world works. MLK had a clear vision and it was one of persistence, Nelson Mandela also had a clear vision, Robert Mugabe was the angry one and well we see how that turned out.
I would love to hear your non-American opinion of who/what exactly you think minorities should be voting for if not the Democratic party, lmao.
See, the lawful part of me is agrees, to a point...
But when the law habitually fails, when symbols of hatred and intolerance and bigotry cast a looming, mocking shadow on the populace, when icons of suppression and dehumanization linger in the spotlight and are championed by the vilest of our numbers and affirmed by our politicians, it is the duty of us as decent members of the human race to unequivocally condemn and cast off these festering reminders of the shame so many continue to propagate in our midst.
If it was a monument of a Swastika there'd be no question, no debate, no matter what the state government permitted. It should be torn down and those that did so applauded for their action. If it was a statue honoring the KKK with a burning cross in the park, the disgust it would engender among the morally conscience would be such that to remove it with or without government permission would be lauded for their civic duty to stamp out such razor-sharp hatred.
"The South Will Rise Again" proponents have waged a century-long propaganda war to lionize their side, equate their generals and soldiers as morally equal to those of the North, and to downplay the core issue of the war and muddy the history of their actions. They've largely succeeded and the counter-information has arrived far too late. To address Confederacy actions with the truth is, well, "fake news" to those with predilections to justify their privilege and mono-culture.
Civil disobedience is built into the very fabric of American's establishment, so to rationalize it against current social acceptance is difficult. Our nation was founded as an act of traitorous rejection of the English crown, destruction of English property, and refusal to submit to English law.
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so."
And there were countless individuals who begged Revolutionaries to just be silent, to stop causing trouble, to follow the law... to exist in the "negative peace with the absence of tension" instead of the "positive peace with the presence of justice".
I am not a person of color, not visibly... I got my skin color from my mother, while my father's darker skin clearly stands out where I grew up. I never received the prejudices he received, the insults hurled his way. I didn't have to live under the shadow of monuments erected by spiteful and hateful masses to serve as eternal reminders that countless individuals disapprove of the equality and freedom our Constitution guarantees him and anyone else living in this nation. But he did, every single day. He endured it with a strength I could never hope to match.
Monuments of shameful racism and inequality are categorically un-American, and it is an American's duty to rend them from their pedestals.
It may not be lawful... but I can scarcely argue it is not RIGHT.
Don't answer violence with violence? They're outnumbered, they benefit from people rolling over and getting out the way.
Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Fair Housing Act. I'm Nigerian as well and you have a very myopic view of American politics. The geopolitics in Nigeria and Africa in general are not really comparable to the United States.
It's going to hell because people like Trump support the rights of statues and convictions of nazis and use that to justify the death of a protester because "both sides." Did you miss the thread where someone got run over?
Tell that to hundreds of kids summarily executed by police without repercussion. The hundreds of thousands of black males locked up for minor offences. Tell that to the millions who are disenfranchised while trying to engage with the system on its own terms.
If you don't have any skin in the game is easy to sit back and say if only you do it this way if will be fine. Things look different when you live with the entire apparatus of the state breathing down your neck and at any moment could come crashing down on you simply because you are a different skin colour.
You should educate yourself about American issues before you talk about them, I'm sorry.
What have voting Democratic gotten us? It's prevented us from electing candidates whose political platform is to defund our education system in black communities, make it easier for us to be killed and produce weak or no punishments for those that kill us, enact laws that keep us in captivity, and prevent us from even being able to have a vote us from being able to vote again using. numerous. methods).
You speak of voting for our best interest? That's WHY we vote for the democrats. Not because they are the best. Not because they are perfect. But because the other option only ever sees us with contempt and have crafted their entire political ideology as a means to belittle us.
But you don't know that so maybe you should look it up.
But hey, I'm not going to pop off at the mouth about the current political and social situation in Nigeria because I'm not well versed and would be speaking out of my whole ass.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Glad to see you have no idea what you are talking about.
A lot of juniors popping up telling minorities to suck it up, funny how that is
Anti racists didn't kill a woman last weekend
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Kentuchi
Neo Member
Erm but these were supported by more Republicans then but this is not the issue.
The geopolitics are the same but I know how politicians behave, we see the true nature of politics here, and I can tell you that when a party knows they've locked down your vote they tend to not court you so much hence you see fewer results.
Not sure it's the point, but it's possibility one should acknowledge.
LegendofJoe
Member
That is often the result, that's why it takes a lot of courage to do what Takiya Thompson did.
Mister Wolf
Member
Voting republican isn't a option for any minority with sense. Two party system.
clearly, because you have no fucking clue what the fuck you're talking about.
KissDaRing
Banned
It's scary what the state of the US is going to be like come election time in a few years. I expect it to be totally chaotic... Really fearful for the state of the country now.
Google southern strategy
No the geopolitics are not the same.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
The republican party effectively swapped places with the democratic party on issues related to civil rights following the 60s (in reaction to the Civil Rights Act).
Educate yourself.
legacyzero
Banned
Laws are laws. That said, I'm sure many of these folks knew that going into this. And I appreciate their balls. Pictures of that may go into the history books. To me that's worth it.
Bring those fucking statues down or we'll take em down.
Also- I was born and raised in Virginia. My Facebook feed is... frustrating lol
Bring those fucking statues down or we'll take em down.
Also- I was born and raised in Virginia. My Facebook feed is... frustrating lol
Mammoth Jones
Member
Police drag their feet all the fucking time. Pretend it was a fellow boy in blue and have the evidence suddenly disappear.
CrocMother
Banned
Getting arrested and proudly owning this is just as powerful and inspiring a message as tearing it down.
Kentuchi
Neo Member
You should educate yourself about American issues before you talk about them, I'm sorry.
What have voting Democratic gotten us? It's prevented us from electing candidates whose political platform is to defund our education system in black communities, make it easier for us to be killed and produce weak or no punishments for those that kill us, enact laws that keep us in captivity, and prevent us from even being able to have a vote us from being able to vote again using. numerous. methods).
You speak of voting for our best interest? That's WHY we vote for the democrats. Not because they are the best. Not because they are perfect. But because the other option only ever sees us with contempt and have crafted their entire political ideology as a means to belittle us.
But you don't know that so maybe you should look it up.
But hey, I'm not going to pop off at the mouth about the current political and social situation in Nigeria because I'm not well versed and would be speaking out of my whole ass.
Okay fine so you vote Democrats because they won't defund your schools, why are your schools still bad then? In your inner cities you vote Democrat, overwhelmingly, why are they bad then?
I'm not saying start voting Republican, I'm saying that your political system has great feedback, use that to your advantage. You all here probably believe that all blacks that don't subscribe to the Democratic party and general leftist ideas are all Uncle Tom's or whatever but your loss.
I'll give an example, overwhelmingly black parents support vouchers as a solution to your education problems, that's not on the Democratic party platform is it? The Democratic party will not offend your teachers unions even though a large part of its voters want it, when these clashes happen, your interests are simply not paramount, because your vote is locked down. You'll vote for them either way.
And the alternative is to vote Republican or not vote? If you think that you're naive when it comes to American politics educate yourself. LBJ + Kennedy were Democratic presidents that led the charge for civil war. The Republican response was the Southern strategy. The Dixiecrats all switched over to the GOP in response to it. The Democratic party gave up the white vote (majority) for generations to pass civil rights, black people in this country are just not going to forget that.
This is the mainstream Republican's exposure to race:
https://twitter.com/jackdwagner/status/897598398492278785
You can't even write this shit.
Ah the Chicago response. Please name all these terrible inner cities. Can you? It's a regurgitated talking point.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
pathetic 😫
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