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Shin Megami Tensei Community Thread: Be Your True Demon
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CrimsonFist
Member
which reminds me, fairly recently I noticed that the Japanese SMT If... had been removed from the English app store. Not sure when it was actually removed, but SMT I was removed at some point before it's official English release.
Although of course If... could have been removed for any other reason too, but SMT II is still up.
Although of course If... could have been removed for any other reason too, but SMT II is still up.
cj_iwakura
Member
Kind of wish Atlus USA had done that rather than the games that had been fan translated, but I'm glad they did 1 nonetheless.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Honestly I want all of what I call the "lost old SMT trilogy": SMT1, SMT2, and SMT if...
I really want to give Atlus money for these games.
You eventually get strong enough to a point where you can tell demons to fuck off and they'll still join you
Sooooooooooooooo gratifying
Shadow Broker
Banned
Playing through SMT IV for the first time and im really enjoying it so far. Just got to Shinjuku, think im about half way? Are there any specific demons I should be trying to find or fuse around level 20? Ive heard that there are a few that make the game a little easier that have light/dark/almighty(?) attacks.
Ive seen some complaints about the ability to save anywhere makes the game too easy. But to be honest as a mobile game I think it suits my play style really well. I like to play in chunks and when I need to take a break I like to know I wont loose a shit ton of progress because of the save locations. For someone like me it really helps when I only have a few moments to play at any given time. I also just started Devil Summoner 2 and I know that if I need to take a break I have to have time to run back and save which takes alot of time with all the random encounters. I never had a problem with randoms until I tried to get through the first puzzle dungeon in this game lol. Every 3 feet im encountering fights it seems.
Ive seen some complaints about the ability to save anywhere makes the game too easy. But to be honest as a mobile game I think it suits my play style really well. I like to play in chunks and when I need to take a break I like to know I wont loose a shit ton of progress because of the save locations. For someone like me it really helps when I only have a few moments to play at any given time. I also just started Devil Summoner 2 and I know that if I need to take a break I have to have time to run back and save which takes alot of time with all the random encounters. I never had a problem with randoms until I tried to get through the first puzzle dungeon in this game lol. Every 3 feet im encountering fights it seems.
SMT IV has so many demons in it that it's difficult to say that there are any "must have" demons. There's a ton of useful ones no matter where you are in the game.
I'd argue Alice was in the "must have" category. I couldn't get past King Kenji without her.
Havent found any good videos. There was a good video on youtube of someone trying to show the SMT timeline but I wouldnt call it a Retrospective. Here is a good website though that no video could even come close too.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/megaten.htm
cj_iwakura
Member
That's where most of my SMT knowledge comes from. It's a bit old though, I think the newest game there is SJ.
Tizoc
Member
Anyone else feel like SMT's level up system is rather...restrictive? You level up, you get 1 Point, put it in a stat.
Now I only beat SMT4 to completion but the old games make it feel like I should only ever focus on 1 stat and in each game there are particular stats that you should put them in, ignoring all other stats.
Monochromaticx
Member
hi smt gaf!
been playing nocturne and having a blast with it. just a quick question:
the skill Dekunda says that it removes all "-nda" effects. does that mean that it does NOT remove the debuffs from fog breath and war cry?
been playing nocturne and having a blast with it. just a quick question:
the skill Dekunda says that it removes all "-nda" effects. does that mean that it does NOT remove the debuffs from fog breath and war cry?
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
I kinda felt like this, but the stats themselves only go up to 40 in some of those, so it's still balanced, it just has a different skin on it.
It removes those, too. It removes all debuffs.
Fog Breath is just Sukunda x2; War Cry is just Tarunda + Rakunda.
ROFL @ that picture. I love it.
Anyone else feel like SMT's level up system is rather...restrictive? You level up, you get 1 Point, put it in a stat.
Now I only beat SMT4 to completion but the old games make it feel like I should only ever focus on 1 stat and in each game there are particular stats that you should put them in, ignoring all other stats.
I don't think the level up system is restrictive really. I mean levels are fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of the game. You should generally have some kind of build on your head of what stats you need.
That said though, I do hate how misleading it is in the old games where any magic is completely useless on the protagonist because he can't get any spells. I know in those games, magic also makes you take less magic damage, but is still fairly useless as you would rather just resist, reflect, or kill rather than build stats for it.
When I first started Soul Hackers, I made the mistake of putting some of my starting points in Int and Magic, quickly finding out that was a waste. It's like swimming in Deus Ex.
War Cry is Tarunda x2. Taunt is Rakunda x2 and Tarukaja x2 on the enemy. There is no Rakunda x2 in Nocturne (it would be in later games as "Acid Breath").
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Oh, whoops. Pretty sure War Cry is Tarunda + Rakunda somewhere, though.
Acid breath in SMTIV is Rakunda + Sukunda.
Tizoc
Member
archnemesis
Member
Some of the explanations are a bit far-fetched. "Zio" is much closer to Zeus than Týr, and that also explains the connection to lightning.
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[B]Latin[/B] Mars Mercurius Jupiter
[B]Old High German[/B] Zio Wuotan Donar
[B]Old Norse[/B] Týr Odinn Thôrr
[B]Indian[/B] Siva Brahma Vishnus
cj_iwakura
Member
I believe that's supposed to be a Yosuga cultist.
Gozu-Tennoh's Manikin priestess, specifically.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Okay,
is owning me in DDS2 on hard mode (imported DDS1 safe file). I don't think I've ever gotten close to killing him. I don't even mind grinding but stacking up karma points takes literally forever, damn...
Abaddon
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
The one story boss I always struggle a little with, even on replays. He's just a pain in the ass to deal with.
Shadow Broker
Banned
So I just made it to Porgatorium in SMTIV.
How much longer do I have? It's starting to drag.
I love and adore the atmosphere of this game but something feels off. It's doesn't stack up to Strange Journey in my opinion.
How much longer do I have? It's starting to drag.
I love and adore the atmosphere of this game but something feels off. It's doesn't stack up to Strange Journey in my opinion.
Either at the end or right near it depending on which ending you are doing.
Shadow Broker
Banned
Chaos ending. I always go chaos ending. It would've been fine if a couple of "meh" things and lackluster results from the "meh" things didn't happen in the story.
I lost interest because of what's happened that playing it feels like a chore. Where as a few cool things happened in strange journey and I was sad knowing the story came to an end.
I played Porgatorium up until I got up to some dude with a move called Light Wings (?) And took a break because I couldn't figure out the trick to beating him the first couple of tries and I have a underwhelming partner.
You're pretty much at the end. Just keep going and finish it.
eye cum negotiator
Banned
I can't bring myself to play Kyuuyaku, man. I feel that number 2 would especially feel like a better experience if played on Famicom, especially because of that delicious Namcot 163 chip.
MT1 is already complete and amazing, but number 2 hasn't been touched. I decided to try and translate it. I made some pretty good progress, but encountering text compression has made me drop the project. I was hoping I could provide for myself and others gaijins a way to play MT2 on famicom but text compression goes beyond the scope of anything I know in the hacking scene.
The Intros and naming sections are done as well, as is other stuff. I don't even know how to add extra bytes to increase the text, so I was forced to compress scripts as much as possible while having them still make sense. I was ready to go all out on this I guess. I'll still wait though for someone to complete it, rather than playing KMT. Maybe the guys that did MT1 will do MT2 as well one day!
MT1 is already complete and amazing, but number 2 hasn't been touched. I decided to try and translate it. I made some pretty good progress, but encountering text compression has made me drop the project. I was hoping I could provide for myself and others gaijins a way to play MT2 on famicom but text compression goes beyond the scope of anything I know in the hacking scene.
The Intros and naming sections are done as well, as is other stuff. I don't even know how to add extra bytes to increase the text, so I was forced to compress scripts as much as possible while having them still make sense. I was ready to go all out on this I guess. I'll still wait though for someone to complete it, rather than playing KMT. Maybe the guys that did MT1 will do MT2 as well one day!
your username is terrible but I love your taste! And yeah, that script is certainly ... terse, but I'd love to see someone take a stab at MT2 Famicom. That soundtrack and the weirder visual style deserve to be experienced by everyone.
cj_iwakura
Member
It reminds me a lot of Metal Gear.
Also, I shouldn't have laughed so hard at this:
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I can totally picture the Messians having a help line.
Also, I shouldn't have laughed so hard at this:
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I can totally picture the Messians having a help line.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
It reminds me a lot of Metal Gear.
Also, I shouldn't have laughed so hard at this:
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I can totally picture the Messians having a help line.
Reminds me of this:
Portraying anything SMT in an office cracks me up.
They pushed it too January on Amazon
WTF, I was wondering about this. My girlfriend ordered it for my birthday and was like "wtf it still says preorder"
Or at the very least finish the work on the localization on the Android port.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Well, now you're just making me depressed.
cj_iwakura
Member
Who knows. It's one of many weird abstract photos of him in Digital Devil Apocalypse.