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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Alligatorjandro
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Early tough boss
Any tips on beating
?
Any tips on beating
Medusa
Have demons with the zan ability. At level 17 there's a demon that helped me a lot during this fight (Raiju). Hit her weakness, have a demon specifically for healing purposes, and buff your attacks if you have the chance.
hahahahahahahahahahaha. I know exactly which demon you are talking about.
Tetrakarn is more elegant
I think I'm at the point where I feel really overpowered. The last boss I fought was
Asmodeus
I have to say the dungeons are disappointing so far. All were really, really simple structure wise.
toadsworth
Banned
What is better, Rakukaja or Rakunda? I have Zhu Tun She with Rakunda, but thinking of getting Knocker for Rakukaja....
Need zan/zanma + buff/debuff spells. I took her down at level 14 without too many problems. Definitely buff your evasion and then do what you can to raise your defense and/or lower her attack (preferably both). Make sure you buy some armor for the MC to resist her zionga and also try to get somebody in there who can drain/null it as well to burn her press turns. You can probably get by with a pretty similar setup, but this is how I went about it. Edit: definitely make sure you have a couple of people with media as well, since she will deal a fair bit of damage to your whole party every turn. Healing Knowhow was also a handy skill for me in this fight too, so I could revive a downed healer and get them back in the game in a single turn, or get my MP back up with chakra drops from all my magic usage.
insignia16
Member
It's not a matter of what is better, but what will work in X situation, Rakukaja (in my opinion) works best if you have 2-3 demons and your MC that plan on using for the whole battle and will benefit long enough from the def up buff to survive a few hots from a boss.
Rakunda works well if you're trying to increase damage dealt to the enemy or boss and are not worried about the caster dying after a turn or two should everything not go your way.
that's my take on it
Urban Scholar
Member
Boss spoiler after thought
Also my MC is rocking dekaja, I think it's a good fit.
Xi Wangmu fight...woah dat lead up to the win
Also my MC is rocking dekaja, I think it's a good fit.
Rakukaja is better in most situations. Tarunda is even better, because the enemy attack will stay down even if you have to bring in new demons (vs. having to recast rakukaja 3 times to get essentially same effect for the demon entering the battle).
Rakunda is nice, but it doesn't (necessarily) keep your characters from dying, which I think is higher priority. It just helps the boss go down quicker. I definitely think defense is the better strategy *most* of the time, though I've definitely gone the full offensive approach for a fast win in tough battles sometimes (though not in this game yet).
toadsworth
Banned
Ok thanks, I'm trying to prepare my party for the
minotaur and medusa
Also, when do I get a chance to whisper spells to Flynn? Is it only when the demon learns a new spell?
Thats what you are suppose to do
Aside from the spells that exploit their weakness and some essential healing spells, I highly recommend these skills:
rakukaja/tarunda/sukukaja. Sukunda would be nice too, but I'm just past those bosses and I haven't seen the skill yet. It's all about making your party able to take their hard hits + up their dodge so that the boss will lose their press turns sometimes and save you from a lot of damage.
As long as you're not using them on pixie or something
Urban Scholar
Member
Never!
toadsworth
Banned
Aside from the spells that exploit their weakness and some essential healing spells, I highly recommend these skills:rakukaja/tarunda/sukukaja. Sukunda would be nice too, but I'm just past those bosses and I haven't seen the skill yet. It's all about making your party able to take their hard hits + up their dodge so that the boss will lose their press turns sometimes and save you from a lot of damage.
As long as you're using them on pixie or something
awesome, thank you. Just fused a knocker for dat sweet rakukaja.
Other than that github tool are there any decent wikis or anything out for this game? the strategy book it came with is painfully shallow...
Not really that I know of. When games are this new I just throw some terms into Google and hope a thread from GameFAQs pops up. Usually works out for me.
SpaceBridge
Member
Ikebukoro spoiler question:
is there a terminal in the area?
GeekyDad
Member
Yes,
but it's not where you defeat the boss for that area, it's further north
Haha.
Level 75 demon in a 18-20 area. Yup, that was fair.
I was surprised how easy he was with my lv22 MC.
Haha.
Level 75 demon in a 18-20 area. Yup, that was fair.
Everyone keeps freaking out over this guy, but he's really easy.
Advice? Because he gets first strike and wipes the party before I can do a thing.
A team of Agi users and Bad Company (for those that die in the 1st strike) takes him out in one turn.
It is destroying me. No real good demons with
zan
Game just gets better and better.
I've been trying this actually with a couple of demons that null bullet attacks... yeah, about 4 turns and he is not dead. I have Ubu, Pyro Jack and Raiju and the MC using fire attacks.
EDIT: Just got it. It was 100% luck though. MC and another demon died on the first turn. The rest of the fight consisted of the demon using up his turn to use a bullet based attack which was nullified. If we would have done any other kind of attack I would have been screwed!
Franklinator
Member
I just beat (~8 hour spoiler)
The fight wasn't as tough as I thought it would be, but I may a bit over-leveled. Awesome game so far.
Minotaur.
Elaugaufein
Member
So I was wandering around in Naraku and when I talked to a gryphon
. How many of these
are there and do any have story progression limits ?
it gave me a quest to slay Sun Wu Kung.
hidden quests
Try to get your MC whispered Zan. Then stock up on Zio resistant demons. One with media, and at least one with a debuff.
Urban Scholar
Member
So let me get this straight during fusion demons get hp penalty for having a skill their weak against?
Wow. This is true? Well, it's better then not letting them have em at all like other games.
Chance Hale
Member
I wonder when the story will start getting preachy, Jonathan and Walter actually seem like characters at this point!
Probably. An early tetrakarn or makarakarn makes a bunch of early stuff a joke. And you're always getting extra chances for a null/repel/drain passive to fuse off.
A lot of area transitions also have huge jumps in experience gains where like every single demon in your stock will get a noticeable chunk after every battle so skill mutations will just be raining down upon you for a few levels.
It seems like the only "bad" apps are health regen (demon stock for dia/media and healing items are pretty much limitless), demon mp cost down (waaaay too expensive for the benefit).
Fusion level +1 is also probably a bit too expensive for what it gives you generally. I mean, the bonus is fine but the AP costs are insane.
Not sure about the conversation options beside recruiting and money. Trade might be okay for rare item farming, but seems kind of bad if the items you get are similar to the ones you get from the app where you get items from recruiting.
Don't really see any point to negotiate with Trafuri and just being able to talk to any demons in your stock to end fights, unless there is some super secret that makes it good.
Urban Scholar
Member
I'm fusing 2 demons to make inferno and I want to give him bufula and before it's all done I see he original HP loses 13 pts.
I was doing very very well yesterday and today I just got two wipes in a matter of minutes. I encountered this weird Domain in
that is not really a dungeon but just contained
Whats even more annoying is that they had 6 Press Turns and I got obliterated since they had the first strike and kept getting additional turns. Didn't pursue it afterwards, but I entered another Domain. Pretty straightforward as usual and the boss at the end was
which I know is weak to Phys and Blocks all elemental attacks. I was doing well until Jonathan ruined it by casting a Bufula that gave it a smirk and then proceeded to obliterate me again with Titanomachia. Fuck you Jonathan!
Ginza
three Ghouls
Alciel
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Good lord, I don't recall the last time I played something where I felt sure to be screwed if I didn't save after every. single. fight.
