perfect free
Member
Man, I am buying the OST for this game the second it is released. I don't normally plug in my headphones for 3DS gaming, but SMT4 is an exception.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Pingoreous
Member
Well as a SMT fan, this game finally broke me down and i just purchased a 3DS XL/SMT IV. Hope Atlus survives.
Burroughs confirmed for one true pairing.
Oh my
I knew I wasn't crazy when I saw Burroghs's clothes.
CornBurrito
Member
I just started the game. Does it follow SMT tradition of magic being almost always better to pump than physical stats?
Seems so. Lots of cool things you can do with bullets though.
Incendiary
Banned
Tell me about it. I did a bunch of stuff in a town, walked outside, got ambushed by an off-camera demon who got a first attack and wiped my party out before I could attack. This is a lot more difficult than previous SMTs just because there's no reliable defense. If there's a weakness in your party and the enemy exploits it before you can attack, you can lose the game no matter what level you're at and who you're fighting.
CornBurrito
Member
So basically Dex or Magic. Avoid strength?
I was considering a Strength/Agi/Luck build. Can magic score critical hits or is luck useless for a mage?
Oh my
Wtf at the MC. I'd rather see Isabeau doing that pose.
Um, buying literally all of the bullets might be a little overkill, but selling that stuff is fine. I sold chakra and bead stuff (and summon stones, and all of the attack items) down to half capacity from max multiple times.
CornBurrito
Member
I dislike the interface for this game. It sometimes isn't obvious who is attacking on my squad, or why some demon got the extra turn and not another.
SpaceBridge
Member
Love this game.
GOTY or what?
GOTY or what?
I figure all the elemental ones will be worth it. I'm fillinf up MC's skill slots with healing spells and buff/debuffs. Thanks, I usually end up saving all of these "heal to max" items until the end of the game where they're useless anyway.
QuiteWhittle
Member
I wish I would've done this hours ago. I never used them and now there are several dungeons worth of chests whose contents I cannot keep.
Incendiary
Banned
Yeah it's definitely wonky at first. After a couple of hours you'll be fine. Saw somebody praising the UI of this game the day before release and I was super disappointed.
Extra turns, though, are determined just like in Nocturn. If a character crits or hits weakness, you get an extra turn for the party, but not specifically for the demon that won the extra turn.
CornBurrito
Member
Are there Strength based attacks that mimic elements or holy? I know guns have elemental bullets.
Urban Scholar
Member
Oh my
....they are doing a disservice to the MC not looking badass in nearly any art I've seen. Come on guys my opinion of this dude drops more and more.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Terminal guy and Naomi are the best characters in the game.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
Oh my
what is this even from? I have the DX pack of this game and the wall scroll has different art on it XDTen hours in and only seen ones that deal status effects so far.
CornBurrito
Member
Welp... last question. Does the skill Drain exist?
If so, I'm going to avoid Strength and simply do a Magic/Agility/??? build. Can magic skills crit?
Yep. There is one for MP, one for HP, and one for both.
And no magic doesn't crit.
Yeah, a couple of variations for drain moves. Magic can't crit. Phys is rarely a weakness, while magic often is, so that's pretty much the trade off. Some phys have a high crit rate a low hit rate that can be offset by investing in luck and/or by casting pricey buff skills. Lots of people in here seem to have had good results from pumping up luck to land those power hits with a phys build.
Basileus777
Member
I'm already getting tired of demon recruitment. It's so shallow and random that I can't help but wish it was designed in a way that was more interesting or challenging in a meaningful way.
I do wish that they brought some of the interesting things Raidou 2 did with negotiation in. Letting other demons chime in to help you has kinda been a thing in the past, but Raidou 2 really ran with that.
CornBurrito
Member
Hmm so a phys build is viable? I invested points into phys/agi/luck already. But I kinda want a magic character. But restarting would mean having to go through that opening cutscene which is way too fucking long.
Yeah it is all randomized now and utter shit. I'm bored of it already and only recruited 3 demons.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
That's exactly what I thought when I was looking at these extreme builds. At first I thought "what if they screw up your defense" and then it hit me, there's no Endurance or Defense in this game, and HP scale automatically. So regardless of how distribute your points, your defense will remain the same. The only thing you have control over is how to switch up your resistances.
Urban Scholar
Member
Oh no what a horrible death scene
Yo man I'll pour out a 40...*searches body* oh a bead, sweet!
SMT all day ; p
Yo man I'll pour out a 40...*searches body* oh a bead, sweet!
SMT all day ; p
Demon recruiting gets a little better as you start to understand how certain personalities work. some demons are really rough to work with, though. I also just learned from this thread tonight that you can just choose "end talks" after doing two or three things for them and they'll usually join you then.
And don't worry -- you can very easily change your build where you're at. You could still change it several hours from now.
CornBurrito
Member
According to google, no. It is all randomized unlike in Strange Journey. So nah, it isn't going to get easier because personality no longer impacts recruitment.
And while I could change my build, it is 10 wasted points. That's gonna haunt me.
Must all be in my head then
It was frustrating me that the demons traditionally treated as kids weren't responding the way I would have expected.QuiteWhittle
Member
Those "Huh, you got guts" demons always seem to join if you give them like two life stones and refuse the rest of their requests.
Got my Oni this way. Dude had the gall to ask for my Dex Incense!
Incendiary
Banned
The randomization really bugs me. I talked to a demon and they asked the same question twice, I answered the same way twice, the first time it worked and the second time it didn't. It's really dumb because it feels like luck instead of actually having any sort of skill related to it.
CornBurrito
Member
Probably feels like luck because it IS luck!!!
Hua Po was the most frustrating demon to try and recruit. I probably talked to almost ten of them before it worked out. I was happy to see I wasn't alone when I went to Google about this one. Some coarse language about her over on GameFAQs... fourth result when searching "hua po smt iv"
Never had any problems like that otherwise though.Chance Hale
Member
Does luck actually affect Demon Conversations?
Also: Got Hua Po on my first try *dances*
Also: Got Hua Po on my first try *dances*