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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Sseklebeast
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Heh if you think that's awesome just wait until later on. I won't spoil it obviously but I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Sseklebeast
Member
Yeah, I think they are there just to stop you so the monsters can attack. It has trapped me a few times.
Yes; they're traps.
decoyplatypus
Member
I think that's exactly why. I tested them out, and they seem to happen in fixed locations. They're just traps.
Save after recruiting any demon. Don't get attached to your demons, fuse them liberally; typically after you learn all their skills.
Be sure to get the first strike/contested strike. Don't be afraid to run back to the barracks as needed.
Game gets much easier once you get a full slot of whispered skills and full team of demons.
"Make sure to bring more MACCA next time."
Snapshot King
Member
Wow, I've been running around Tokyo for a while, around level 25 now, and I still feel like I've barely touched the main plot. How long is this game? Also, man, Shinjuku is enormous.
Urban Scholar
Member
Shibuya spoilers
Ok so where do I go if this guy wants to talk to me?
Tayama?
You've gotta get out to Roppongi, then walk to the east a bit and go for a tall building.
You've gotta get out to Roppongi, then walk to the east a bit and go for a tall building.
Urban Scholar
Member
I just played the first 2 hours of the game. Really enjoyable and reminded me of a medieval Persona game. One thing is bothering me though...
Do we ever find out why they have technology like Burroughs, which called itself an AI? Just a yes or no answer would be fine, I don't want to spoil myself on the plot
Urban Scholar
Member
No hence my question. I know he wants to meet me I just have no clue where to go.
edit: I got never mind, thanks alot
I was doubly surprised at how easy he was after he got initiative. Even lower leveled demons could annihilate me instantly if they got that kind of luck.
For your answer:
yes, yes you do.
twothreesix
Neo Member
Couple of random thoughts:
The amount of random deaths feels really ramped up in this game. In previous SMT games the wipes typically happened when you did something stupid, like taking a party that was weak to ice into an area that was heavy with ice casting enemies. Those wipes most often felt like your fault and you learned to prevent them as you played the game. Sure, there were exceptions, and the series has always had the bosses that you must die to at least once before you figured them out, but the exceptions were rare and and the bosses were typically after a nearby save location.
In this game any random encounter can get the drop on you, cast two party-wide spells, and wipe you before you even had a turn. If the save anywhere feature wasn't in this game then it would be a very very frustrating game to play. The save mechanic feel like a crutch for some poorly thought out dungeon balance.
On the flip-side, I really like the changes to the the fusion system and how the main character gains spells. I'm constantly having to think about leveling up the demons I currently have to gain their spells versus fusing them to access to other demons. The balance feels spot on here.
And the side-quests are really well done. They're short, typically spread out well so they follow a natural path, and the rewards make them feel worth doing. It's weird, but the side-quests are one of the things that have impressed me the most. They don't have that Xenoblade "why the hell am I even doing this?" feeling to them that most fluff RPG side-quests typically do.
The amount of random deaths feels really ramped up in this game. In previous SMT games the wipes typically happened when you did something stupid, like taking a party that was weak to ice into an area that was heavy with ice casting enemies. Those wipes most often felt like your fault and you learned to prevent them as you played the game. Sure, there were exceptions, and the series has always had the bosses that you must die to at least once before you figured them out, but the exceptions were rare and and the bosses were typically after a nearby save location.
In this game any random encounter can get the drop on you, cast two party-wide spells, and wipe you before you even had a turn. If the save anywhere feature wasn't in this game then it would be a very very frustrating game to play. The save mechanic feel like a crutch for some poorly thought out dungeon balance.
On the flip-side, I really like the changes to the the fusion system and how the main character gains spells. I'm constantly having to think about leveling up the demons I currently have to gain their spells versus fusing them to access to other demons. The balance feels spot on here.
And the side-quests are really well done. They're short, typically spread out well so they follow a natural path, and the rewards make them feel worth doing. It's weird, but the side-quests are one of the things that have impressed me the most. They don't have that Xenoblade "why the hell am I even doing this?" feeling to them that most fluff RPG side-quests typically do.
I was on the same situation just a couple hours ago, no one helped...I wandered for almost 3 hours... :-(
Go to Shinjuku near those really high buildings. Look on the mini map to be sure you're on Shinjuku. There are only 2 buildings you can enter there get into the bigger one.To get to Shinjuku you need to pay 500 Macca to cross the river , northwest (I think?) to the first bridge were you had to deliver that demon head. You'll know you're on the right track if you find some poisonous terrain after you cross the river. Just look for a place to cross the river north of Ikebukuro
I hope this helps.
If you want to know exactly what you need to do. No big spoilers.
A girl named Hikaru will show up near the entrance to the metro station on Shinjuku and tell you were to go next.
Nope.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Bummer. In that case it's not being whispered.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I think I know the boss you're referring to. The level doesn't really matter, he's not that tough. You should be able to beat the boss in 2-3 turns at most. If you're having difficulty you need to reconstruct your party. Try selecting demons which are resistant or immune to gun attacks and those who are good at fire attacks. Remember that defense is also a valid offense, because if the boss uses an attack which misses or is nullified, he loses both his turns.
You can't change bullets in battle, right? So there is a disadvantage.Damn you gunlords! I'll just stay here in the corner hugging my spells.
About 19 hours in, just finished the part where
Things are getting pretty interesting.
I do feel under leveled now though. Most random demons I fight are a higher level than me so I can't recruit any. Although, I'm not exactly dying with my 150+ magic. Still one shotting everything in sight.
you learn that they use human brains or something to make red pills that they give to demons
Things are getting pretty interesting.
I do feel under leveled now though. Most random demons I fight are a higher level than me so I can't recruit any. Although, I'm not exactly dying with my 150+ magic. Still one shotting everything in sight.
I have no idea how you pulled off your 2-3 turn wizardry, but I used Raijou and Quicksilver and they stayed alive and attacked repeatedly and won that way.
This is what I've been doing for a while now and I just arrived in
Ginza
Coldnoodle
Member
What does the Fusion Booster app do?
Does it allow you to fuse monsters one notch above your current level?
Does it allow you to fuse monsters one notch above your current level?
I found a typo in the game earlier. It's one of the rooms with NPCs in the Ikebukuro area.
Lol.
Well if you have a good team of demons, it's 8 moves every turn. Unless you're terribly unlucky, if you have at least one demon who is null/repel to gun, everyone should survive the first enemy turn at least. That gives you 16 moves before anyone starts dying. If you lose 2 party members in the second enemy turn, that still gives you 20 moves to beat him. That's plenty!
Was she censored in Soul Hackers?
"Defeating the demons that set up he Domains would solve that problem, but Xi Wangmu's behind this..."
Lol.
Well if you have a good team of demons, it's 8 moves every turn. Unless you're terribly unlucky, if you have at least one demon who is null/repel to gun, everyone should survive the first enemy turn at least. That gives you 16 moves before anyone starts dying. If you lose 2 party members in the second enemy turn, that still gives you 20 moves to beat him. That's plenty!
Was she censored in Soul Hackers?
Looks like it. And in SJ. I never got her in SH 3DS and the cropping in SJ probably caused me to not notice.
This is what happened to me when I played Strange Journey. Save file was at 115 hours or so right when I reached Grus. Had to stop playing for a week for some reason and totally forgot what my plans were fusion-wise. Really have to go back and finish it at some point. It's a real shame because I hadn't been in that sort of groove in a long while, where hours would pass by like nothing.
RIP titty monster queen. Lol.