[I've heard] there's a bar in Tokyo that has someone who you can talk to that will tell you your alignment.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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[I've heard] there's a bar in Tokyo that has someone who you can talk to that will tell you your alignment.
I think the information I got from people about their map dudes' rotation wasn't good. I am definitely law right now - 100% positive - and my dude is still oscillating back and forth. I guess they didn't actually put that feature in the game after all. But I wonder about the people who said theirs was rotating one way or another...
Chance Hale
Member
Do you have a comparison picture of the Japanese version? Are there any other censored demons?
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
Holy shit, I just got so lost in a Domain with a boss demon 20 levels higher than me that I gained like 3 levels trying to find my way out. I was starting to think that maybe Domains didn't have exits and you had to kill the boss to leave and I was getting more and more nervous with each dead end I ran into, since I didn't want to be grossly overleveled for when I finally got back on track.
Lowers your attack and defence. It's also contagious, so if one member of your party has it, if you don't cure it eventually everyone will get it too.
Are Sukukaja and Sukunda equal in effect? (i.e. will I get the same overall amount of dodging from going +1 Sukukaja as I would if I did -1 Sukunda?)
Still on Minotaur. Backtracked to see if the store had anything I could use. I'm still using the Dis Irae sword, which has the highest power, but I see multi-hit weapons and I'm wondering if Luck has an effect on those.
Did pretty well last night with 3 Sukukajas in my first turn (I Passed on Leanna Sidhe's turn, and then was able ot heal up the damage he did from the few strikes that didn't miss with her Media). Got to the second question, guess I answered it wrong, and he got a +1 to hit. I got him back down to -3, but it didn't seem to matter and he murdered me. Well, now I know that humbleness is good. =\
Still on Minotaur. Backtracked to see if the store had anything I could use. I'm still using the Dis Irae sword, which has the highest power, but I see multi-hit weapons and I'm wondering if Luck has an effect on those.
Did pretty well last night with 3 Sukukajas in my first turn (I Passed on Leanna Sidhe's turn, and then was able ot heal up the damage he did from the few strikes that didn't miss with her Media). Got to the second question, guess I answered it wrong, and he got a +1 to hit. I got him back down to -3, but it didn't seem to matter and he murdered me. Well, now I know that humbleness is good. =\
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Wow, in that case that makes it my favorite infliction of choice!
The manual manual or the guide? Because I was *just* reading the latter and couldn't find the info lol.
The manual.
flatearthpandas
Member
I would vote for this. Won't be surprised to find this game as my "most times played" in the activity log once I'm done.
NeonZ
Member
I think the side-quests is where their decision to go with sprites really actually benefits the game. The amount of demons means that almost all of them can feature unique opponents and have the sidequest be built for them, rather than just generic mobs all the time.
Before playing SMT IV, I didn't think the amount of demons would add anything to the game, but it works.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Bahh at the last post on this page. Cut and paste to the next one sorry >___>
Right. The main weapon power affects Attack, and the gun weapon power affects Shoot. Strength affects Attack and any melee physical skill. Dex affects both melee and range physical skills.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I now have 2 of 4 endings. Going to do all the quests now on my Chaos route file.
Then I'll go for the Law Path on 3rd Playthrough.
Gonna need a guide for Neutral Route. Last I recall it's really tough to get.
Then I'll go for the Law Path on 3rd Playthrough.
Gonna need a guide for Neutral Route. Last I recall it's really tough to get.
Alright, I'm going to go a different path for Minotaur. Time to get Bufu up in here.
Main character has Bufu+1 (although he's not MAG based, so it only does ~70 damage). I figure if I boost that with some whispers of demons that have Bufu, that should go well.
Time to compendium dive... expensive.
Main character has Bufu+1 (although he's not MAG based, so it only does ~70 damage). I figure if I boost that with some whispers of demons that have Bufu, that should go well.
Time to compendium dive... expensive.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Restarting the game from the very beginning due to me being stupid investing too much point in Strength (10-11 hours file)
Now I am at the point where the team
Now I am at the point where the team
has just discovered the Counter Demon HQ
I love the Whisper function. I think I almost like it more than the Magatama system in Nocturne. I'm never actively looking for demons that have skills that my MC has, but more than often the skills I chose to originally put on my MC are always getting upgraded whenever a demon I have in my party learns all of it skills. It's always a surprise! Feels good.
Another thing I noticed is how few skills each demon has. In Nocturne the demons had way more skills to learn and I always found myself holding on to particular demons for quite along time (which can be counter productive). I guess they reduced the skill amounts on each demon because of the volume of demons in the game? With demons having less skills I feel more inclined to fuse sooner which is definitely the "proper" way to play. I believe Strange Journey was like this too.
A few questions:
1. I forgot how it worked in Nocturne, but how do demons learn skills? Is it just after so many levels? I don't think it's like the Magatama where you have to reach a certain level with the MC to learn a new skill.
2. Is there anyway to see what buffs/debuffs your MC/demons have during battle? I see no icons on the portraits or anything. I also can't recall now if Nocturne even displayed buffs/debuffs for your part, lol! =/
Another thing I noticed is how few skills each demon has. In Nocturne the demons had way more skills to learn and I always found myself holding on to particular demons for quite along time (which can be counter productive). I guess they reduced the skill amounts on each demon because of the volume of demons in the game? With demons having less skills I feel more inclined to fuse sooner which is definitely the "proper" way to play. I believe Strange Journey was like this too.
A few questions:
1. I forgot how it worked in Nocturne, but how do demons learn skills? Is it just after so many levels? I don't think it's like the Magatama where you have to reach a certain level with the MC to learn a new skill.
2. Is there anyway to see what buffs/debuffs your MC/demons have during battle? I see no icons on the portraits or anything. I also can't recall now if Nocturne even displayed buffs/debuffs for your part, lol! =/
1. After leveling up, I think it's based on certain levels (I've had demons level up without learning a new skill)
2. Press X in battle.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
1. Natural skills, by leveling up obviously. Skills they can't natively get, through fusions.
2. Nope as far as I know. Nocturne also didn't display buff/debuff pictures.
Wait what? Holy shit, hahahaha.
Thanks!
Discovered it by complete accident.
Also, beat Minotaur! Woot woot!
Fused a Spriggan with Media and Bufu, and a Petra with Media and Bufu. Sukunda'd him to -3 in the first turn, then used Naga's Poison Claw for about 100 damage a turn, and was consistently getting smirks from Bufu.
Still only beat him with Spriggan having 14 HP left. It was .... intense. Jonathan actually got the last strike, doing about 30 damage with an attack.
Technosteve
Banned
i'm not supposed to invest too much in strength? =( i don't know what i'm doing. this game is like pokemon i just want the pretty demons on my team.
1) Don't get too attached to demons. They are not nearly as much of an investment as a pokemon is. They are meant to be fluid and changed for the situation.
2) Depends on what you're going for, but STR has some of the lower payouts in the game. It boosts melee skills and your regular attack. Dex does the same a little less efficiently, but also boosts ranged skills (gun skills). Guns apparently beat out melee weapons, and can be loaded with elemental bullets, which means you can hit elemental weaknesses.
3) Ask any questions you have in here. The thread is pretty good about giving answers.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Sorry, but I fuckin' hate the thread title; SMT was hardcore WELL before the DS series was even conceived. I mean, why does every even-semi hard game these days get labeled "The Dark Souls of..." something?
That's the joke.
Str focuses on increasing normal attack damage afaik, while dex increases damage dealt by physical based skills.
I just completed the game with the law route and I'd like to go again for neutral, is there a guide or a list of questions and their respective changes to alignment out there?
Okay, how does one get one the path for one of the endings? Is it just a cumulative choice of all your previous actions, or a few choices that matter?
I think I'm currently neutral in alignment, going by what the guy in the bar says (Something about how people say I'm a hard person to pin down, and that's rare) and I'd like to stay neutral if possible.
I think I'm currently neutral in alignment, going by what the guy in the bar says (Something about how people say I'm a hard person to pin down, and that's rare) and I'd like to stay neutral if possible.
GeekyDad
Member
Both St and Dx affect both physical and gun skills. However, St only affects physical attacks, and gun only gun attacks.
As for investing in St., I believe there are certain weapons you can only wield with high St. Whether that's worth it or available to you on a given playthrough, that depends, I suppose.
Gah, poor reading comprehension skills. I need to just create a DB for this game in my head or something.
SpaceBridge
Member
Damn, some of these spoilers marks. If you're gonna spoiler something can you at least identify where you are? For example: post Shinjuku.
I've had two plot points spoiled for me because I clicked really vague descriptions.
Or I'm not going to click any more spoilers I guess.
I've had two plot points spoiled for me because I clicked really vague descriptions.
Or I'm not going to click any more spoilers I guess.
Yeah, and people are still leaving boss names untagged as well. Kinda sucks.
GeekyDad
Member
While in-game, press the Home button, then hit Manual, select page 13, scroll down. The descriptions for all of the MC stats are right there.
You know, I just restarted the game and actually paid attention to the "This game uses an e-manual". Bright, I am not.
Was that donefor US release? I do know that
Master Terion
CornBurrito
Member
Yeah it is annoying how people don't follow the spoiler rules.Pretty sure it specifically states you should mark where your spoilers take place, or what they might be about.
I can't believe that
they included a hot raunchy sex scene threesome with Johnathan and Walter right after the epic battle verse the entire Greek pantheon of deities!
Hah, oh man, I was just doing a very easy "kill [x] of enemies quest" just to get caught up on my Challenge Quests, and suddenly
I literally only made it after he used Blight twice in a row to wipe out all of my demons when my MC had like 4 HP left and enough MP for one Zio.
To be honest, that just sounds exactly like Nocturne/Persona 3 FES Hard Mode. Random back attack, crits MC, game over.
SURPRISE FIEND OUT OF NOWHERE. Fucking David...
To be honest, that just sounds exactly like Nocturne/Persona 3 FES Hard Mode. Random back attack, crits MC, game over.
That's not what I heard though. Apparently Dx affects both shoot and physical/gun skills, while Str affects the normal attack and physical skills but not gun skills. Is that incorrect?
GeekyDad
Member
According to the e-manual, it is incorrect. Now, it is my understanding there is a substantial variance in the percentages each stat enhances phys/gun skills, but they do both affect both skills. I wish the designers offered more detail about what the stats are doing.
InsaneElite
Member
Absolutely. The game's director, Kazuyuki Yamai, even encouraged players to go out and talk to NPCs to really take in more of the game's story. There's an entire subplot that's mostly revealed talking to random people over the course of the game.
It's not just Mikado. There is stuff which changes in every town and area with NPCs. It's really cool. Whenever you make major progress or something happens which people in a certain area should be aware of, you can expect changes in dialogue. Great stuff.
This has probably been asked and answered, but are there any guidelines for assigning your stats? I see the guy above me is super geared in DEX, AGI, and LCK. So far I've just been assigning them evenly since I figured that couldn't be *too* bad...
I'm only 5 hours in and level 11 so I guess I could still restart and fix it if this was horribad.
I'm only 5 hours in and level 11 so I guess I could still restart and fix it if this was horribad.