Comes after Scout Gift I believe, I think everything starting with Scout goes in a linear fashion. frustrating, I thought it was just some irrelevant side thing, not a stepping stone to upgrading the ability to recruit demons period.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
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Sounds pretty bad.
Actually shooting a gun is only worth it when exploiting weaknesses, anyways.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Just get Scout Gift, like said it seems to be linear progression.You mean after purchasing negotiate AND scout gift? Dammit, it'll take me a long time to unlock all those at this point.
EDIT: Nevermind you caught it. Yeah, I was going to focus on skills first but I'm sick of shit luck at recruiting demons.
Sseklebeast
Member
Endgame sidequest tip -
When fighting Azazel, do not use Makarakarn unless you want Megidolaon 3 times in a row. I had to learn the hard way.
Dammit, it'll take me a long time to unlock all those at this point.
negotiate isn't necessary - I just took a look and it seems like just scout gift, scout bonus and scout+ are part of that line. Expert Scout shows up afterwards but I never bought that.
charlequin
Banned
I'm really glad that the reports of excessively easy difficulty level in this game proved to be false. Ten-ish hours in and I'm finding the game hitting exactly the sweet spot -- challenging enough that you can't let your guard down, but without being quite as cheap as some previous entries.
So far I love just about everything about this game, but I do have one big disappointment: no percentage displayed for the compendium.
So far I love just about everything about this game, but I do have one big disappointment: no percentage displayed for the compendium.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
I'm really glad that the reports of excessively easy difficulty level in this game proved to be false. Ten-ish hours in and I'm finding the game hitting exactly the sweet spot -- challenging enough that you can't let your guard down, but without being quite as cheap as some previous entries.
So far I love just about everything about this game, but I do have one big disappointment: no percentage displayed for the compendium.
Excessively easy? EXCESSIVELY EASY?! Who the hell was calling this game excessively easy? They're clearly robots.
That seems pretty useful. Thanks!
It just seems a little more frustrating in this game. I don't know why. lol. I didn't really feel this way playing Strange Journey or Nocturne.
But anyway -- thanks for the tips!!
I'm really glad that the reports of excessively easy difficulty level in this game proved to be false. Ten-ish hours in and I'm finding the game hitting exactly the sweet spot -- challenging enough that you can't let your guard down, but without being quite as cheap as some previous entries.
So far I love just about everything about this game, but I do have one big disappointment: no percentage displayed for the compendium.
Yeah, I'm dying somewhat regularly, but it hasn't been completely frustrating I want to quit.
For those who finished SMT1-3 + SJ (I haven't), how does 4 compare to them? I've played through some of 1 and 2, and the majority of 3 already but just curious on how people would rank the series.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
The Afterlife DLC can make it like this. I mean, I tried it and holy hell the amount of Light Grimoires and Heavy Grimoires the enemies drop. Need 80.000 xp to level up? No problem, just throw a Heavy Grimoire to make it drop to 0 immediately, hahaha.
You need to have a decent physical skill/attack to harm the mitama enemies though.
I feel Nocturne is easier (in normal), more brutal (in higher difficulties--still need to access hard to make it a fair comparison in this one), and SJ is about the same (although latter part of SJ can be brutal)
charlequin
Banned
WHAT. Oh YHVH damn it all. Fortunately I have some points saved up, but those were going towards MP regen 2.
mugurumakensei
Member
extralite.
He must be playing a different game.
This game is more accessible than previous SMT games, but I would not say it's easier.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Goddammit. I knew I was missing some important upgrades, I just had no idea it was tucked behind Scout Gift. I really hope the game starts throwing more 10-AP items my way. So far I only got one, but I'm hopeful.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
It takes a while to get used too, but now it's been pretty easy. The only times I get jumped are when the camera is an awkward position or the game cheaply produce a monster near the entry of a location that I just entered or dropped to.
Spear is probably the easier weapon to pull off this, at least IMO.
Oh, I also skipped Negotiation Apps so far in favor for +skill slots app. Should I invest more in them or should I go for those Mana regeneration apps... hmmmmmmmmmh. The only Negotiation App that you need for a 100% compendium is the bilingual one, correct...?
InsaneZero
Member
And Soul Hackers, for the ten people that bought it.
Sadly its not, heres hoping we get it this week since Macca is my only problem with the game, and I like to fuse demons a lot.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Wait, there's a money DLC?
Crap crap crap. It would be hard to resist it since I like cosplaying my MC :O
I think it becomes easier, but the reason isn't because it's easier, it's because you can get more skill slots and a much larger demon stock than you could in any previous SMT. But it's still up to you to really make it that easy, just like any other SMT.
Chrono Helix
Member
There isn't a completion percentage to tell you how far along you are. I don't think you're rewarded for doing so either.
I'm a robot, then... well, after about 20-30 hours of gameplay.
Do I have to activate street pass in those games, or will it just see that whoever played those games and reward you? I have another 3DS so I could just load those games into it, boot it up, and let it idle and get the rewards.
On that note, I think this game may be one of the first to be designed more for 3DS XL than 3DS (or I got too used to the 3DS XL, whatever) because the icons on the bottom screen seem perfect on XL but WAY too small on regular (Mini? Tiny? Anything but phat) 3DS.
On that note, I think this game may be one of the first to be designed more for 3DS XL than 3DS (or I got too used to the 3DS XL, whatever) because the icons on the bottom screen seem perfect on XL but WAY too small on regular (Mini? Tiny? Anything but phat) 3DS.
I don't think money is really a problem once you progress in the game. Once you get to Ginza and get all the cards you can farm the relics there for easy money. There was a point where I was selling my summoning stones, chakra pot, balm of rising and beads because I would have reached the limit I could carry and was annoyed that I would get the warning message when opening chests.
I feel like it has a really rough beginning difficulty compared to the other SMT games but you eventually get a point where you keep carrying good skills from demons and you end up really strong and thrash bosses in 1-2 round.
The first few hours are rough because money is scarce, you and your demons have few skill slots and because you have no way to increase your defense/vitality.
EDIT : Boo beaten by Aeana
I feel like it has a really rough beginning difficulty compared to the other SMT games but you eventually get a point where you keep carrying good skills from demons and you end up really strong and thrash bosses in 1-2 round.
The first few hours are rough because money is scarce, you and your demons have few skill slots and because you have no way to increase your defense/vitality.
EDIT : Boo beaten by Aeana
Urban Scholar
Member
What in the hell. I'm Law alignment right now? ehhhh?! Must get back to Neutral!
mugurumakensei
Member
True enough. Each demon in my current set of demon nulls, repels, or drains at least four different attack types with a couple that are pretty much invulnerable aside from one of mind or nerve damage.
charlequin
Banned
I bought it! (And two copies of EO4.)
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I bought it, played it for a while, and wasn't impressed by it.
I plan to play it later on, but now I am scared that I will never play it anymore because coming from SMT IV the difference between the quality of work would be so devastatingly apparent
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
The amount of content, depth, and variety in this game can be staggering at times. It's something I've been missing in games for a while. I don't know why I never expected it in the first place (could be the short wait from the announcement 'till the release) but either way it caught me off-guard. Making this game for current or next gen consoles is virtually unfeasible without either compromising the scope or inflating the dev time.
It's breaking my heart that we might never see another game like this again.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I had this exact thought over the weekend.
buddha0991
Member
If this is the end though Dres, it was one hell of a farewell, don't you think?
Hecatonchires Custom
Member
The thing I like the least about the game is how lame the dungeons are so far. And I'm about in the last 1/4 of the game. Even Nocturne had better dungeons
I guess this is the sacrifice they had to make because of the way they balanced the game.
I'd rather have plain, corridor dungeons with some exploration than bullshit dungeons where you have invisible traps that make you land on damage floors and you have to guess the correct path to proceed. The prison in Nocturne was especially awful and I'm sure there are others that are even shittier than this one.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
The random whole party wipes are infuriating.
especially when it takes too long to get to load game.
especially when it takes too long to get to load game.
insignia16
Member
We all need to buy 2-3 more copies of this game ASAP!....If only it were that easy.
IrishNinja
Member
haha *dap*
god, that might actually be worth 12 coins, yeah. good call
How come? I'm sure we'll see a SMTV, how soon IDK.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Isn't this game selling well?
Although that whole ATLUS bankruptcy thing is really worrisome.
Terminal hopping can be painful too, considering you need to press buttons multiple times to get through Burroughs talking.
InsaneElite
Member
I know it's been brought up before, but I can't praise the atmosphere in this game enough. I'll try to avoid any kind of hints at spoilers, but a certain portion of the game was presented entirely different than I expected it to be, for the better. The attention to detail is astounding.
Crunchy20XX
Banned
So I'm lost...
I made it to Tokyo, but I can't get the quest to kill Peallaidh. I've found the Rukh egg and the LED bulb. Is there some other prerequisite to getting the quest to kill Peallaidh? I keep going to the place where quests are assigned but I don't get the quest. Any ideas?
Hecatonchires Custom
Member
Did you attempt to cross the river south of Ueno? You first get wind of Peallaidh there and I'm sure it's required for the guy to show up at the bar.
You know, as much as I'm enjoying SMT4, the most prominent feeling I have about the entire game is, "Man, wouldn't Strange Journey be awesome if it were in this style?" 3D dungeons, make the Red Sprite an actual hub level, remix the dungeons and have the Demonica take on new armors as overlays to the original suit, make it so you can see your gun and sword on the overworld, add music tracks and voice acting... augh, I should stop before I break my own heart.
Crunchy20XX
Banned
Thanks!