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Shin Megami Tensei IV |OT| The Dark Souls of Persona
- Thread starter Volcynika
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I know what you mean. That + terribad camera + 3ds controls + random monsters every three steps really sapped my enthusiasm. I had to stop after about 20 hours.
And I was really enjoying the story too, oh well...really hoping P5 isn't a 3ds exclusive.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Wait, there's an
in the game.
Holy fuck I totally missed that. Thought you guys were just making shit up.
airship
Holy fuck I totally missed that. Thought you guys were just making shit up.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Yo, whoever had the idea to put the smirk icon and text on our avatars, would you mind PMing me them? I want to put them on mine
Here you go, it's already transparent.
I think I'm near the end... I don't want this game to end D:
Thanks!
Urban Scholar
Member
Later game spoiler question
Where exactly do I head to reach Camp Ichigaya and the Yamato reactor? Also I sided with Walter but I'm still neutral, I'm guessing there's more until I lock my neutral ending?
Talking about the world map or dungeon/city areas?
Probably the world map.
*waits 10 seconds for enemy to disappear*
"Great! Time to get moving"
*enemy spawns on the same spot and right on top of me*
"FUCK"
No complaints about the dungeon/city battles. Kill one and you have a grace period.
Velcro Fly
Member
Just started the game tonight and finished the tutorial missions. I loved the sense of tension that around every corner could be your death.
Having a really hard time getting the jump on enemies though. It's like you have to swing a lot sooner than you think you do. Lead to some frustrating outcomes of demons getting one shot on enemy first strikes.
Having a really hard time getting the jump on enemies though. It's like you have to swing a lot sooner than you think you do. Lead to some frustrating outcomes of demons getting one shot on enemy first strikes.
buddha0991
Member
Word up.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
It's a godsend.
I found jank in both world map traversal and dungeon crawling. Maybe if I was better at working the 3ds' circle pad and bumpers to weave my way around the insistent spawnees while trying to get my bearings I would have enjoyed it more.
I guess I just like the more predictable enemies and relaxed exploration jrpg type games like Etrian Odyssey and P4G, although dual sticks really helped with P4.
Young Magus
Junior Member
So I'm doing a few challenging quest for the neutral ending and for a few of them, I keep getting a message that I might be underleveled for them. Is there a good place to catch up on some levels?
MegaKungFuRadio
Member
You know that on the world map with Estoma Sword active, all weak enemies die upon contact, right?
... Seriously?
I just swore out loud, man. Don't even give two fucks right now. aaaaargh what the helllllllllll
RyougaSaotome
Member
decoyplatypus
Member
I started whittling down the remaining challenge quests. I'm honestly relieved that there is still plenty for me to do. I was not ready for the game to be over.
I think I got an extra bit of dialogue with a boss because I'd waited until after certain game events to do the quest.
I think I got an extra bit of dialogue with a boss because I'd waited until after certain game events to do the quest.
Take the road north of Shibuya, you''ll run into an event (you'll know what I'm talking about when it happens). After said event, you can enter a tunnel, which deposits you near the Camp.
Urban Scholar
Member
got it
Velcro Fly
Member
So is the white samurai armor worth coughing up the life stones? I guess I could probably grind up 30 of them easily enough to get the whole thing.
Also the whole app thing seems daunting. I don't want to completely waste points and make the game harder on myself. I got another skill slot for the MC and I figured since the compendium is expensive I'll be recruiting a ton and got the scout thing that gives me items. Think I'm going to see about getting my demons a 5th skill slot too pretty soon.
Also the whole app thing seems daunting. I don't want to completely waste points and make the game harder on myself. I got another skill slot for the MC and I figured since the compendium is expensive I'll be recruiting a ton and got the scout thing that gives me items. Think I'm going to see about getting my demons a 5th skill slot too pretty soon.
Elaugaufein
Member
Yeah. The general rule in SMT is that unless a demon has really good resistances, highly unusual stats or special abiltiies that can't be passed on , you should fuse them as soon they learn their last skill.
Okay, can't keep this bottled up any more, gotta blurt out some completely random SMT4 thoughts now that I am finally in Tokyo
-Can the Challenge Quest dungeon music please play forever and ever, thanks
-This game is so Trauma-ish in the first eight hours it's ridiculous, not just obvious things like goofy voices (finally turned off sadly) and faces but some music and cutscenes and dialogue, it's weird
-Best music implementation in any Megaten since SMT3, from songs picking up where they left off to MULTIPLE BOSS AND BATTLE TRACKS, SO GOOD
-Another gatekeeper M____R boss which I adored: intro, placement, design (awesome non-Kaneko!), music, everything was perfect, so memorable and skillfully handled
-FUUUUUUSION, I am still reeling at how amazing everything is now
-Press Turn, I didn't realize how much I missed you
-The SMT1 and SMT2 touches through out are wonderful, all the musical flourishes! And even shops that recall SMT If...
I am so so happy things have picked up, I know exactly why the designers started things the way they did, they needed to lead me from kinda lame medieval drudgery to get to the Tokyo moment, and boy did it work. I am effing hooked.
-Can the Challenge Quest dungeon music please play forever and ever, thanks
-This game is so Trauma-ish in the first eight hours it's ridiculous, not just obvious things like goofy voices (finally turned off sadly) and faces but some music and cutscenes and dialogue, it's weird
-Best music implementation in any Megaten since SMT3, from songs picking up where they left off to MULTIPLE BOSS AND BATTLE TRACKS, SO GOOD
-Another gatekeeper M____R boss which I adored: intro, placement, design (awesome non-Kaneko!), music, everything was perfect, so memorable and skillfully handled
-FUUUUUUSION, I am still reeling at how amazing everything is now
-Press Turn, I didn't realize how much I missed you
-The SMT1 and SMT2 touches through out are wonderful, all the musical flourishes! And even shops that recall SMT If...
I am so so happy things have picked up, I know exactly why the designers started things the way they did, they needed to lead me from kinda lame medieval drudgery to get to the Tokyo moment, and boy did it work. I am effing hooked.
First of all, yes the White Samurai set is definitely worth it and will last you a good chunk of playtime.
There's no need to grind for the Life Stones, they drop like candy and you'll frequently hit the item cap for it.
As for apps, as long as you don't neglect the skill slot expansions for yourself and your demons, as well as some extra demon stock slots, you are fine. Stuff like fundraiser isn't necessary, nor is the Fusion EXP perk.
The only thing I would highly recommend AFTER getting all your skill slots is the MP Recovery chain of apps, it is super useful. The upgrades to Scout are nice as well and I would recommend them, but those other things are more important for progression I think.
If we can only pass Desperate Hit through normal fusion... My problem with Demonee-ho is his shit resistances, but still, hes been my main damage dealer demon here just like in Strange Journey.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Yes! It's great for the beginning.
I'm 36 hours in and I'm still using the chest piece.
InsaneElite
Member
Since I'm still leveling my Luck up on my first save file, I'll go ahead and start a New Life file on Expert for a bit tomorrow and get some feedback for you.
Elaugaufein
Member
The helmet is good for a mage build. The rest of it is pretty decent, I've pretty much only used it, the Amazon armor or the Freedom armor up until Ueno. If you're still early in the game then it's worth doing, getting lifestones is pretty easy (and since you've got Scout Gift it'll be even easier for you).
Elaugaufein
Member
From what I've heard those skills can be passed on via Fusion Lite , which is a little bit of help.
GotchaForce
Member
Is there a full guide for the game online? I'm past the guide it comes with and trying to find Tokyo Station. It's right after Tayama sends you to kill someone.
joseph1594
Member
So, I am at the whole
How far in the game am I? I know there are at least a few more choices to alter my alignment that are left, but I want to make sure I still have enough breathing room to change my alignment (I have decided that I am definitely not going through the Law route.
Jonathan and Walter choice. I have figured out going to Lilith with Walter would put me into chaos while siding with Jonathan still keeps me at neutral.
How far in the game am I? I know there are at least a few more choices to alter my alignment that are left, but I want to make sure I still have enough breathing room to change my alignment (I have decided that I am definitely not going through the Law route.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Nope. :lol
I was freaking out before I got it, I thought
that southeastern part of the map was inaccessible
Elaugaufein
Member
You've got a decent way to go before the final choice yet.
Going into Chaos and getting back to neutral is pretty easy as long as you don't go deep in. The spot to avoid is being on the chaotic end of neutral , or being a little too strongly into Law (being on the Law side of Neutral is safe).
hosannainexcelsis
Member
He is. Beat him at 72 or 73.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Was wondering: Do the Gold/other color cards carry over to New Game +s?
Whelp. Pandemic bomb spam plus death's door is killer. I'm around level 66, some of my demons are a bit higher. Is that a problem?
I'd say so lol. I really recommend having Debilate and Salvation usable. They saved me in that fight. I know that Mahamayuri has it at level 69.
Guess I have work to do. Thanks.
This game has made me wonder something: Why does Atlus change the names of demons across the franchise? A big example that comes to mind is Orcus/Horkos. Up until Strange Journey, that fat yellow king lizard pig thing was always "Orcus". In Strange Journey "Orcus" was a boss, but called Horkos. I thought maybe that change was made only for SJ, since they wanted to give him a more bossly sounding name. But then here we are in SMT4 and that demon is a regular demon called "Horkos". I have yet to finish Soul Hackers, and haven't seen this demon in it yet. SH is an old game, but the 3DS release of it was the first official English translation.