roosnam1980
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for the amiga fans.................
Shmups Are The Best Genre You Don’t Play
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Team Andromeda
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This is the only way to play shooters on the Saturn with the Astro stick.
Kacho
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Looks cool. There's a demo on Steam.
Cool looking Qute Shmup on sale for $0.99. It's apparently a good beginner friendly game.
Kacho
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I finally got around to Crimzon Clover. It's one of those games I've heard people mention constantly (same with Jamestown) but I slept on it for some reason.
Damn is it good. One of the better shmups I've played. Very fun mechanics, up there with Danmaku. Popping the super burst is dopamine central.
Damn is it good. One of the better shmups I've played. Very fun mechanics, up there with Danmaku. Popping the super burst is dopamine central.
John Bilbo
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I've been testing this one out. Although the visuals are not my thing the game is pretty sweet itself and music is pretty catchy.
It has a story mode which eases you into the game and a separate arcade mode.
Player hit box is quite big but you got means to shield yourself.
Kacho
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Yeah, I'm digging it. I feel bad for paying as little as I did.
Porcile
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Anyone else get the Toaplan Arcade Collection for Switch or Playstation? My thoughts on the port job for Switch. Have played all the games on both collections for 30 mins+ or so (Switch version only):
Good emulation of the games themselves. Not really noticing any graphical glitches or weird gameplay problems. Expert Toaplan players might see some stuff. I did get situation where the game over screen didn't appear on Tatsujin on one run. No idea how accurate the slowdown is.
Input lag seems okay. Based on all my other Switch shmup experiences I'm guessing just by the feel all the games come in at around 4-5 frames of lag. Of course some of these game feel really slow anyway initially without power ups so it's hard to judge. I don't expect any miracles. Any tests out there?
Options and features are good but not amazing. Some of the game's player lives dip switches are set incorrectly? A lot of the games start you with four lives instead of three but you can change them. But this makes the online leaderboards a bit obsolete?
For practicing the games there are some options to help you out like reducing hitbox size, reducing the difficulty etc I think there are six save slots per game? Not great not terrible. No training modes.
Visual options are okay. You can change a few things on the CRT filter but you seemingly can't get rid of the bloom/brightness effect and just have plain scanlines without all the extra shit fucking up the colours of the game. So I just stick to pixel mode but I want basic scanlines without all the filters. You can rotate the screen etc.
Sound emulation seems okay to BAD. I get a glitch where when I exit a game to the main menu, the sound glitches out and distorts really badly on the games and main menu. The only way to remedy this is to quit out the game entirely. Luckily you can jump back in really quickly but it's still annoying. Apparently there are some other sound problems with a few of the games too. Weird because the developer, Bitwave are named after sound and there are some dumb sound effect options but basic sound is not arcade perfect and with glitches?
Games are Toaplan so all classics. I don't think there is a bad game in this collection, so it's 16 games in total across two collections that could give you hundreds of hours of entertainment if you really wanted. I don't think there is a game that's less than a good C and plenty of A+ tier games in this collection. So I think there's a lot of bang for your buck and games like Batsugun are the best modern console ports yet.
The big question is whether this collection is worth it over/better than the M2 ports. Well obviously the features of this collection pale in comparison to an M2 Shottriggers release but that goes without saying. I think if M2 got around to releasing a Truxton/Truxton 2 collection or a Grind Stormer/Batsugun collection then you would definitely say skip this collection and get those instead. But we never got those games from M2 and it seems unlikely now.
Instead the choice is these 16 games with many great games across two okay collections, versus the current M2 ports of 6 okay Toaplan games spread over 3 fully featured arcade perfect collections at full price for each individual collection, and paid DLC for the console ports. I think M2 over-engineered their versions to the point where they put themselves into a corner and it wasn't viable to release the rest of the games they had planned and now we are left with nothing from M2 and Toaplan except a 1/3 complete collection of games which are not even Toaplan's best.
In either case, we didn't get the best outcome for these games but this collection is not too bad overall so I'll give it a 9/10 for the games themselves and a 7/10 for the port job, at worst a 6/10. It's not bad value for money.
M2 versions I would give a 5/10 for the games and a 9/10 for the port jobs. Way too expensive for what they are unless you really love the individual games they ported.
Good emulation of the games themselves. Not really noticing any graphical glitches or weird gameplay problems. Expert Toaplan players might see some stuff. I did get situation where the game over screen didn't appear on Tatsujin on one run. No idea how accurate the slowdown is.
Input lag seems okay. Based on all my other Switch shmup experiences I'm guessing just by the feel all the games come in at around 4-5 frames of lag. Of course some of these game feel really slow anyway initially without power ups so it's hard to judge. I don't expect any miracles. Any tests out there?
Options and features are good but not amazing. Some of the game's player lives dip switches are set incorrectly? A lot of the games start you with four lives instead of three but you can change them. But this makes the online leaderboards a bit obsolete?
For practicing the games there are some options to help you out like reducing hitbox size, reducing the difficulty etc I think there are six save slots per game? Not great not terrible. No training modes.
Visual options are okay. You can change a few things on the CRT filter but you seemingly can't get rid of the bloom/brightness effect and just have plain scanlines without all the extra shit fucking up the colours of the game. So I just stick to pixel mode but I want basic scanlines without all the filters. You can rotate the screen etc.
Sound emulation seems okay to BAD. I get a glitch where when I exit a game to the main menu, the sound glitches out and distorts really badly on the games and main menu. The only way to remedy this is to quit out the game entirely. Luckily you can jump back in really quickly but it's still annoying. Apparently there are some other sound problems with a few of the games too. Weird because the developer, Bitwave are named after sound and there are some dumb sound effect options but basic sound is not arcade perfect and with glitches?
Games are Toaplan so all classics. I don't think there is a bad game in this collection, so it's 16 games in total across two collections that could give you hundreds of hours of entertainment if you really wanted. I don't think there is a game that's less than a good C and plenty of A+ tier games in this collection. So I think there's a lot of bang for your buck and games like Batsugun are the best modern console ports yet.
The big question is whether this collection is worth it over/better than the M2 ports. Well obviously the features of this collection pale in comparison to an M2 Shottriggers release but that goes without saying. I think if M2 got around to releasing a Truxton/Truxton 2 collection or a Grind Stormer/Batsugun collection then you would definitely say skip this collection and get those instead. But we never got those games from M2 and it seems unlikely now.
Instead the choice is these 16 games with many great games across two okay collections, versus the current M2 ports of 6 okay Toaplan games spread over 3 fully featured arcade perfect collections at full price for each individual collection, and paid DLC for the console ports. I think M2 over-engineered their versions to the point where they put themselves into a corner and it wasn't viable to release the rest of the games they had planned and now we are left with nothing from M2 and Toaplan except a 1/3 complete collection of games which are not even Toaplan's best.
In either case, we didn't get the best outcome for these games but this collection is not too bad overall so I'll give it a 9/10 for the games themselves and a 7/10 for the port job, at worst a 6/10. It's not bad value for money.
M2 versions I would give a 5/10 for the games and a 9/10 for the port jobs. Way too expensive for what they are unless you really love the individual games they ported.