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[Zach]

Get well soon, Jamie-San.

 

[Mizerman]

Holy shit Jamie Noble



http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/ja...hospitalized/#.V-6Mx5MrJE4?platform=hootsuite

Damn. Hope he's alright.

 

[jmdajr]

Holy shit Jamie Noble



http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/ja...hospitalized/#.V-6Mx5MrJE4?platform=hootsuite

Wow. Fucking awful.

 

[Strax]

Before I started watching wrestling again 3 years ago I watched WCW as a kid (9-11) from 1997 to 1999 and I never understood why Ric Flair was there and how won. Yeah, he was funny but he looked like a grandpa.

 

[Zach]

luckily looks arent everything. i know what hes about and i dont need his looks to dictate it. i dont think he looks like a jobber. you think he looks like a jobber. dudes like KO breaking the mold and getting over despite of "generic" look renders whatever point you are trying to make useless.

i mean, the foundation of this now mainstream industry was built by a dude wearing yellow underwear. and a red bandana. what are you arguing?

Are you saying Kevin Owens and Hulk Hogan would have a similar effect on the layman? Because I don't think that's true at all.

 

[Mahonay]

Before I started watching wrestling again 3 years ago I watched WCW as a kid (9-11) from 1997 to 1999 and I never understood why Ric Flair was there and how won. Yeah, he was funny but he looked like a grandpa.

Ric Flair looking like a weird grandpa was a strong reason I stayed away from WCW as a kid.

 

[klonere]

The wXw World Tag League will end up looking better, being more relevant and making more money than Bound for Glory, that's a shoot.

 

[Ithil]

Are you saying Kevin Owens and Hulk Hogan would have a similar effect on the layman? Because I don't think that's true at all.

Depends on the era.

 

[klonere]

Shirtless KO is would be a JCP jobber in another era, that's another shoot.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

Vince is going to buy TNA for $5 today.

 

[Mahonay]

Vince is going to buy TNA for $5 today.

$9.99

 

[Zach]

I don't know what you're saying, SomewhatGravy.

 

[Mahonay]

You know whose character I know? Eva Marie

but who gives two flying fucks?

Eva Marie: The Wrestling Machine

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

You know whose character I know? Eva Marie

but who gives two flying fucks?

Eva has a 10/10 look.

 

[UrbanDandy]

When living the gimmick goes wrong. Why is he still in a trailer park?

I asked myself that same question. Given what he works as (a stooge), he must get paid less.

 

[ReiGun]

Bruh...

This is trash.

 

[Mahonay]

Eva has a 10/10 look.

Dead eyes and no facial expressions of any kind make this not true.

 

[Heroman]

Looks:7
In ring:-10
Promo :- 10
Score -13/30

She is the worse.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I saw you originally giving her a ten before that edit, Heroman.

Dead eyes and no facial expressions of any kind make this not true.

Eh, she busted out some good expressions in her brief time with the GOAT gimmick. Some people (not here, thankfully) actually legit bought her fake injury because 'Eva can't act that good'.

 

[Zach]

Looks:7
In ring:-10
Promo :- 10
Score -13/30

She is the worse.

Didn't see the minuses and was so confused.

 

[Mahonay]

I saw you originally giving her a ten, Heroman.


Eh, she busted out some good expressions in her brief time with the GOAT gimmick. Some people actually legit bought her fake injury because 'Eva can't act that good'.

Moving your face slightly does not count as good facial expression.

Gimmick has been great though.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Moving your face slightly does not count as good facial expression.

Gimmick has been great though.

LOOK AT THE SHOCK. FOUR HORSEWOMEN COULD NEVER.

 

[Mahonay]

LOOK AT THE SHOCK. FOUR HORSEWOMEN COULD NEVER.

Hahahaha

 

[Heroman]

I saw you originally giving her a ten before that edit, Heroman.


Eh, she busted out some good expressions in her brief time with the GOAT gimmick. Some people (not here, thankfully) actually legit bought her fake injury because 'Eva can't act that good'.

She is a ten look the in normal world but in term of wrestling I can't take her seriously as a wrestler which brings her down.

 

[Fox318]

There should be a 4th category:


Heat/Drawing Ability:

How much do you want to see a guy win or get his face caved in?

Eva is a 10 there.

 

[Mahonay]

There should be a 4th category:


Heat/Drawing Ability:

How much do you want to see a guy win or get his face caved in?

Eva is a 10 there.

Absolutely.

 

[Fox318]

Bret Hart Scale: Cesaro edition

Looks: 10
In ring: 10
Promo : 7
Score 27/30

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Y'all just wait 'till we hear about Eva's critically-acclaimed role in that Nicholas Cage movie.

 

[UrbanDandy]

Can you imagine filming a 4 Horsewomen promo. It's be quite expensive.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Holy shit Jamie Noble



http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/ja...hospitalized/#.V-6Mx5MrJE4?platform=hootsuite

Damn wtf?

 

[Heroman]

There should be a 4th category:


Heat/Drawing Ability:

How much do you want to see a guy win or get his face caved in?

Eva is a 10 there.

Eva is a -10 there cause no one wants to she her wrestle.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Bret Hart Scale: Cesaro edition

Looks: 10
In ring: 10
Promo : 7
Score 27/30

Fox pls.

 

[Mahonay]

Bret Hart Scale: Cesaro edition

Looks: 10
In ring: 10
Promo : 7
Score 27/30

Hmmmm

Look is more like 8
Promo ia more like 6

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Give me one good televised Cesaro promo.

Eva a -10 there cause no one wants to she her wrestle.

With her current gimmick, there's a genuine hilarious moment in when she finally has to wrestle and gets her ass kicked.

 

[Fox318]

Give me one good televised Cesaro promo.


With her current gimmick, there's a genuine hilarious moment in when she finally has to wrestle and gets her ass kicked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyG-ra44p_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dV_z4Vy0xQ

 

[Ithil]

Give me one good televised Cesaro promo.


With her current gimmick, there's a genuine hilarious moment in when she finally has to wrestle and gets her ass kicked.

Her selling is pretty terrible too, which might impact even that.

 

[Fox318]

Honestly Eva should't sell.

What would make the marks more upset is if they saw somebody with the Vince look noselling everything from their favs.

Imagine Eva getting up Ultimate Warrior style from a Belly to Bayley?

Everything with Eva should be focused on pissing the crowd off.

 

[Mahonay]

Her selling is pretty terrible too, which might impact even that.

Master class.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Where's the most recent example of awful Eva selling? Not the parts where it showed what she was like when thrust into wrestling after barely half a years worth of training. Because she took some good hits from Asuka when in NXT, and definitely more then one stiff as fuck hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyG-ra44p_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dV_z4Vy0xQ

Off-track but his Regal match was great. Promo on the other hand was too short and too bland.

Edit: Oh God, the days of 'WAS IT A SHOOT' after that post-draft promo. Good times, I got worked too IIRC.

 

[Cagey]

Some enterprising community minded person should set up a poll and database for wrassle GAF to collectively Bret Hart Scale all the wrestlers.

 

[Ithil]

Where's the most recent example of awful Eva selling? Not the parts where it showed what she was like when thrust into wrestling after barely half a years worth of training. Because she took some good hits from Asuka when in NXT, and definitely more then one stiff as fuck hits..

Last time I saw her wrestle was that boring as shit 10 minute match with Asuka (where Asuka inexplicably sold for more of the match than Eva) and she still moved and sold like a primary school kid trying to remember his stage directions in a Nativity play.

 

[Fox318]

Bret Hart Scale?

 

[Mahonay]

Last time I saw her wrestle was that boring as shit 10 minute match with Asuka (where Asuka inexplicably sold for more of the match than Eva) and she still moved and sold like a primary school kid trying to remember his stage directions in a Nativity play.

She struggles with basic motor skills.

 

[Zach]

you're getting old.

summary: i dont get criticism or hype around how someone looks nor do i think for a second it is inherently important to building a character whatsoever. the look is simply an extension of the character on display but not necessarily integral in creating it.

let's use undertaker for example. you put his debut costume on anyone on that roster at the time, hell, even today; is it the same character?

You're older than me, GravyTrain!

And you'll never convince me that wrassle looks are not key. A look can easily make (Sid Vicious) or break (Arn not being perpetual World Champeen) a wrassler.

 

[Mahonay]

Bret Hart Scale?

Look: Ready
In ring: To
Promo: Rumble

 

[Zach]

Some enterprising community minded person should set up a poll and database for wrassle GAF to collectively Bret Hart Scale all the wrestlers.

There'd be too much dishonesty.

 

[Sephzilla]

Looks : 10
In ring : 10
Promo : 10
Score : 30/30

 

[Zach]

Bret Hart Scale?

Bret Hart Scale: David Arquette Edition

In-ring: 1
Promo: 6
Look: 5

Overall: 12/30

He could've been something special.

You know, actually, he was probably better than Erik Watts. No joke.

Spoiler

(And Crush.)

 

[Ithil]

Looks : 10
In ring : 10
Promo : 10
Score : 30/30

Now you gotta rate the heel

 

[Uno Venova]

luckily looks arent everything. i know what hes about and i dont need his looks to dictate it. i dont think he looks like a jobber. you think he looks like a jobber. dudes like KO breaking the mold and getting over despite of "generic" look renders whatever point you are trying to make useless.

i mean, the foundation of this now mainstream industry was built by a dude wearing yellow underwear. and a red bandana. what are you arguing?

There's nothing really generic about Kevin Owen's look either, no one important in the past wrestles in the clothes he does, or has his look, which is working right now.