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[RedSwirl]

Just found out I'll be headed to Best Buy in a few hours to pick out a new TV. I know there are other threads on the subject but this is on pretty short notice.

Under current space constraints my current absolute size limit is 45" but I'd probably prefer something like 40" or 42". When using this TV I'll usually only be sitting between 4' and 7' away from it, so I'll definitely be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

I've heard a lot of stuff about refresh rate and all that. How can I tell if I'm getting a good refresh rate?

Here's the other thing: I'm gonna have all my old school consoles hooked up to it.

That means an NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, and Wii. Right now the only piece of HD hardware I'll have hooked up to it is a 360. Now on my current TV (Samsung 720p/1080i CRT) I can tolerate the look of 2D games but anything N64 and beyond just looks insufferable (hell even 360 games don't look that great because of the TV's resolution). I know the best option is a CRT but I have no more room anywhere to hook one up so that's not really an option for the time being. I heard that you can kinda sorta mitigate the effect if your TV has a good upscaler. So, I'm trying to find a least-bad solution for this problem.

Lastly, sometime next year there's a chance I might have a gaming PC hooked up to this TV.

Edit -- My current setup:

Right now I have my older machines hooked up to a 32" Samsung HD CRT. I'm not sure of the model but it's capable of 720p and 1080i but the native resolution is something weird. I think I got it around 2004. Xbox 360 and PS3 games don't look so good on it, and text is kinda hard to read when playing current gen games. I mainly wanna get rid of it because the resolution sucks and the TV itself is bulky as fuck and extremely heavy.

On the back the TV has one HDMI input, one composite input, two component inputs, and another composite input on the side. All of them are in use.

HDMI -> Xbox 360
Component 1 -> Wii
Component 2 -> PS2
Composite rear -> Cheap GameStop composite splitter -> SNES, Genesis, N64, Dreamcast, DirecTV receiver
Composite side -> NES.

I need to find a way to get all of that working on a newer TV.

Edit 2: Ended up getting a deal on a Samsung UN46ES6100

 

[weekend_warrior]

Just buy a Samsung plasma.

 

[Cornbread78]

7000 series Samsung LED 40"

 

[RedSwirl]

Just buy a Samsung plasma.

So I take it burn-in problems have been resolved since the last time I bought a plasma?

 

[LowerLevel]

So I take it burn-in problems have been resolved since the last time I bought a plasma?

I have one (Samsung, wife swears by them). No burn in at all! Didn't even need the AV forums burn in protection program. I ran the TV's own protection for an hour or two, initially, was all. I've had the TV since Father's day, the only issue has been that it has since been taken over by my Dora watching daughter and my crap watching wife. It HAS been slowly taken back by me recently however...

 

[A Human Becoming]

I also love my Samsung Plasma. They're particularly good for gaming because of a trick to severely reduce input lag.

 

[Reclaimer]

For me, buying a TV involves a lot of research, but if I was YOU and getting one ASAP...

Here's my suggestion: get a nice 120hz, 1080p, Panasonic or Samsung or Sony.

-Go LED LCD over plasma. (See last bullet point)

-Then if you want better upscaling, buy an upscaling unit later. For a few hundred dollars it will be better than any upscaler you get in a TV. And if you love retro games, it will blow your mind.

-Get a 120hz TV for better display of 24fps Blu Ray Films. Turn off motion smoothing on any TV you get.

-Do a quick check on the web for input lag on the model you decide upon. Less than 16.66ms lag (less than 1 frame) is good. Google the model, or check here

-Purchase the Disney WOW Blu Rayhttp://www.avsforum.com/t/1303667/disneys-wow-world-of-wonder-blu-ray-official-avsforum-review and configure your TVs image settings. This thing is VERY good.

-I went Panasonic Plasma for my main TV last year, and love it. No burn in, great picture, very good upscaling. However, I play my retro games with a Framemeister upscaler on a separate LCD TV. Retro 4:3, lots of static UI with no transparency, long RPGs with bright white static text and stat bars displayed for hours at a time.... Seems like pushing the responsible limit of what I should subject my plasma to. I almost always recommend plasma, but for your needs I'd go LCD.

 

[androvsky]

I have one (Samsung, wife swears by them). No burn in at all! Didn't even need the AV forums burn in protection program. I ran the TV's own protection for an hour or two, initially, was all. I've had the TV since Father's day, the only issue has been that it has since been taken over by my Dora watching daughter and my crap watching wife. It HAS been slowly taken back by me recently however...

It's funny, there's always plasma fans in TV recommendation threads talking about how burn-in problems with plasma are completely solved. Go to dedicated plasma threads and there's always plasma fans talking about how it's a lot better, but you still have to be careful with them, usually in reply to someone who just got a brand new plasma and is noticing some minor burn-in. There's no way I'd recommend a plasma for someone wanting to do a lot of retro gaming with not just the static huds but lots of 4:3 windowbox action.

 

[brainpann]

In regards to your old school gaming habits, buy an XRGB 2 or higher. My classics console games look stunning on my 42" Bravia.

 

[CatPee]

-Get a 120hz TV for better display of 24fps Blu Ray Films. Turn off motion smoothing on any TV you get.

Err, IIRC, any refresh rate on a TV that's higher than 60Hz is facilitated by the use of motion interpolation post-processing and isn't native. HDMI can't even do 120Hz. Your suggestion of getting a "120Hz" and then turning off motion interpolation would be kind of a moot point.

 

[Jonm1010]

It's funny, there's always plasma fans in TV recommendation threads talking about how burn-in problems with plasma are completely solved. Go to dedicated plasma threads and there's always plasma fans talking about how it's a lot better, but you still have to be careful with them, usually in reply to someone who just got a brand new plasma and is noticing some minor burn-in. There's no way I'd recommend a plasma for someone wanting to do a lot of retro gaming with not just the static huds but lots of 4:3 windowbox action.

I've had many of days of watching letterbox movies or 4:3 content unstretched and my brother routinely retro games on our two year old Samsung plasma.

The only issue we have EVER had was short term image retention. But after switching to some different content for 5-10 minutes its all gone.

 

[whitehawk]

Just buy a Samsung plasma.

Don't buy a plasma. Don't buy any plasma.

 

[teiresias]

-I went Panasonic Plasma for my main TV last year, and love it. No burn in, great picture, very good upscaling. However, I play my retro games with a Framemeister upscaler on a separate LCD TV. Retro 4:3, lots of static UI with no transparency, long RPGs with bright white static text and stat bars displayed for hours at a time.... Seems like pushing the responsible limit of what I should subject my plasma to. I almost always recommend plasma, but for your needs I'd go LCD.

Does your plasma not have an orbiter function to use?

 

[Reclaimer]

Err, IIRC, any refresh rate on a TV that's higher than 60Hz is facilitated by the use of motion interpolation post-processing and isn't native. HDMI can't even do 120Hz. Your suggestion of getting a "120Hz" and then turning off motion interpolation would be kind of a moot point.

No offense, but don't think you quite understand what 120hz refresh rate is for. It's a common misunderstanding, mostly because of shitty marketing by TV manufacturers.

Motion interpolation is not the same thing as a 120hz TV.


120hz - great refresh rate that lets you watch 24, 30, 60 fps content natively.

Motion Smoothing Interpolation - trendy post processing that adds fake frames to emulate higher framerate. Yucky. That's why it's an option, so you can turn it off.


This is a quick, simple explanation.

120hz TVs can run 24, 30, and 60 fps content "natively" because 24,30,60 all cleanly multiply into a 120 refresh rate. Older TVs have to convert those 24fps into 30fps, making film look choppy.

Some TVs have "features" that can add fake frames to make motion "seem" smoother. It's a feature that can be turned off, because it usually looks like shit. Instead of natively displaying 24fps film (what you want, and what 120hz TVs give you) Motion Smoothing adds fake frames to turn 24fps beauty into faked higher framerate trash.

Does your plasma not have an orbiter function to use?

Yeah, I believe all Panasonic Plasmas have pixel orbiters. But having the TV shift the image around a couple of pixels doesn't do much for retro games where some of the UI is solid colored areas taking up a quarter of the screen.

 

[MaverickHunterX]

For the old school stuff, try to make sure that it has

-AV/Composite
-S-vIdeo
-VGA (for Dreamcast)

Sad thing is that a lot of newer TVs do not have the forementioned.

 

[dsmoke1986]

Samsung LED 8000...Barnone the best TV I have ever owned, I own a 60", and it's absolutely stunning for gaming...I own a comparable model of the Sony in a smaller size, and it's nice, but wow, that Samsung is incredible.

Well worth the extra bit of $$.

 

[MikeE21286]

So I take it burn-in problems have been resolved since the last time I bought a plasma?

First 100 hours break it in. Then you're good to go.

Spoiler

get aPanasonic though

 

[dookeh]

Best Panasonic or Samsung plasma you can afford

 

[xXBetter Off DadXx]

Edit: Nevermind, I saw above.

 

[krae_man]

For the old school stuff, try to make sure that it has

-AV/Composite
-S-vIdeo
-VGA (for Dreamcast)

Sad thing is that a lot of newer TVs do not have the forementioned.

I don't think any TV's being made now have S-Vdieo. All the TV's I've seen have crap loads of HDMI ports and little to no legacy inputs. Hell I've seen TV's that have composite/Component hybrid inputs.

Makes me scared about replacing the TV I currently have. I'm going to miss the 3 Composite inputs(1 with S Video) and two component inputs.

 

[RedSwirl]

Yeah looks like I'll be staying away from plasma. Don't wanna go through all that break-in prep.

How's a 240Hz TV? Specifically the Samsung UN40EH6000F?

 

[H_Prestige]

I game on a Panasonic plasma from 2008 and I still prefer its picture to all the LCDs out there. The current plasmas are light years ahead.

 

[RedSwirl]

Man Google is worthless here, and almost none of these TVs have composite outputs anymore.

 

[gamefan]

First 100 hours break it in. Then you're good to go.

Spoiler

get aPanasonic though

Actually, break in does nothing for image retention or burn in, it only ages the phosphors more evenly. If you want to reduce the risk of getting burn in, turn the contrast and brightness down and change out of Vivid picture mode.

Red Swirl- None of the newer TVs are going to look good with old school stuff. I would suggest you pick one of the better plasmas or LED LCD TVs, in your size requirements, and then purchase a XRGB Mini or XRGB 3 for the old school stuff.

 

[CatPee]

No offense, but don't think you quite understand what 120hz refresh rate is for. It's a common misunderstanding, mostly because of shitty marketing by TV manufacturers.

Motion interpolation is not the same thing as a 120hz TV.


120hz - great refresh rate that lets you watch 24, 30, 60 fps content natively.

Motion Smoothing Interpolation - trendy post processing that adds fake frames to emulate higher framerate. Yucky. That's why it's an option, so you can turn it off.


This is a quick, simple explanation.

120hz TVs can run 24, 30, and 60 fps content "natively" because 24,30,60 all cleanly multiply into a 120 refresh rate. Older TVs have to convert those 24fps into 30fps, making film look choppy.

Some TVs have "features" that can add fake frames to make motion "seem" smoother. It's a feature that can be turned off, because it usually looks like shit. Instead of natively displaying 24fps film (what you want, and what 120hz TVs give you) Motion Smoothing adds fake frames to turn 24fps beauty into faked higher framerate trash.



Yeah, I believe all Panasonic Plasmas have pixel orbiters. But having the TV shift the image around a couple of pixels doesn't do much for retro games where some of the UI is solid colored areas taking up a quarter of the screen.

I know what refresh rate is. I'm a PC gamer... What I'm saying is, it's literally impossible for HDMI to do 120Hz due to lack of bandwidth. I'm saying that any TV that advertises itself as anything higher than 120Hz is just false 120Hz because it's achieved through the use of post-processing, which is what motion interpolation is.

 

[Reclaimer]

I know what refresh rate is. I'm a PC gamer... What I'm saying is, it's literally impossible for HDMI to do 120Hz due to lack of bandwidth. I'm saying that any TV that advertises itself as anything higher than 120Hz is just false 120Hz because it's achieved through the use of post-processing, which is what motion interpolation is.

Must have misunderstood you when you said...

Your suggestion of getting a "120Hz" and then turning off motion interpolation would be kind of a moot point.

... Because its not a moot point at all, and buying a 120hz tv and turning off interpolation is what many film lovers do, because of how accurate a 24fps picture you get.


Anyway.. OP, what did you get? It's been hours now.

 

[jstevenson]

Panasonic Plasma.

If not that, then a Samsung plasma.

 

[Valnen]

Don't get a Plasma, 2012 models are bad. They suffer from burn in and have other issues.

 

[RedSwirl]

Anyway.. OP, what did you get? It's been hours now.

I decided to go back home and do a little bit more research. Plus, I couldn't find anything that still had composite outputs! Do they make composite-to-HDMI converters or something? Or do those only add lag? Basically, I'm just trying to take advantage of Best Buy's current TV sale.

Is there like a list of good gaming HDTVs? I only found a small one on SRK.

Anyway, what about these two?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+42%26%2334%3B+Class+/+LED+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+3D+/+HDTV/4840752.p?id=1218541219769&skuId=4840752&st=P42ST30&cp=1&lp=2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+-+42%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+Smart+-+HDTV/4837525.p?id=1218540195572&skuId=4837525&st=P42ST30&cp=1&lp=1#tab=specifications

Both Panasonic LED.

 

[Mandoric]

I know what refresh rate is. I'm a PC gamer... What I'm saying is, it's literally impossible for HDMI to do 120Hz due to lack of bandwidth. I'm saying that any TV that advertises itself as anything higher than 120Hz is just false 120Hz because it's achieved through the use of post-processing, which is what motion interpolation is.

It's not for 120hz input. It's that a 60hz TV presented with a movie does this:

1-1-1-2-2

A 120hz TV presented with a movie with interpolation does this:

1-1.2-1.4-1.6-1.8-2-2.2-2.4-2.6-2.8

But a good 120hz TV with interpolation off does this:
1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2

 

[Raistlin]

Don't buy a plasma. Don't buy any plasma.

go on ...

Man Google is worthless here, and almost none of these TVs have composite outputs anymore.

You probably don't want to hear this but ...


The good news is you don't have to worry about composite outputs inputs.

The bad news is that's because you'll want to get an external video processor for old school gaming on a largish, fixed-pixel display.




Unless you can find a specific model where reviews/discussions state that the internal video processor actually handles 240p/288p content ... it's going to treat the video as 480i and de-interlace before scaling. Such games are going to look like complete ass unfortunately. So if you can't do CRT, you're going to need to set aside some processor cash if this is really a priority.

 

[gamefan]

I decided to go back home and do a little bit more research. Plus, I couldn't find anything that still had composite outputs! Do they make composite-to-HDMI converters or something? Or do those only add lag? Basically, I'm just trying to take advantage of Best Buy's current TV sale.

Is there like a list of good gaming HDTVs? I only found a small one on SRK.

Anyway, what about these two?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+42%26%2334%3B+Class+/+LED+/+1080p+/+120Hz+/+3D+/+HDTV/4840752.p?id=1218541219769&skuId=4840752&st=P42ST30&cp=1&lp=2

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+-+42%26%2334%3B+Class+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+Smart+-+HDTV/4837525.p?id=1218540195572&skuId=4837525&st=P42ST30&cp=1&lp=1#tab=specifications

Both Panasonic LED.

Based upon your requirements (Best Buy, must be under 45", etc...), I would choose this Sony....

http://bestbuy.com/m/e/product/tablet/detail.jsp?skuId=4758725&productId=1218523196504&tab=default#overview

As others have said, you will need to get an external processor for your old school stuff.

 

[RedSwirl]

Based upon your requirements (Best Buy, must be under 45", etc...), I would choose this Sony....

http://bestbuy.com/m/e/product/tablet/detail.jsp?skuId=4758725&productId=1218523196504&tab=default#overview

As others have said, you will need to get an external processor for your old school stuff.

Link doesn't work. Can't get a processor right now. Right now I just need it to have composite inputs. I can already put up with the shitty image quality on my current TV (mostly), but for the near future I just need to actually be able to connect the damn machines.

 

[gamefan]

Link doesn't work. Can't get a processor right now. Right now I just need it to have composite inputs. I can already put up with the shitty image quality on my current TV (mostly), but for the near future I just need to actually be able to connect the damn machines.

Try this one....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+40"+Class+(40"+Diag.)+-+LED+-+1080p+-+120Hz+-+Smart+-+HDTV/4758725.p?id=1218523196504&skuId=4758725

Also, I would take a look at this Samsung plasma. I know that it's only 720p but resolution isn't everything

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+43"+Class+(43&%2334;+Diag.)+-+Plasma+-+720p+-+600Hz+-+HDTV/4837604.p?id=1218540192528&skuId=4837604&st=Samsung%20plasma&cp=1&lp=2

 

[Raistlin]

Link doesn't work. Can't get a processor right now. Right now I just need it to have composite inputs. I can already put up with the shitty image quality on my current TV (mostly), but for the near future I just need to actually be able to connect the damn machines.

I'm not sure that's the right way to think about it (hear me out).


Having composite as a requirement will limit your choices, and potentially result in your purchasing an inferior TV at your price-point. Since you've stated you can put up with your current TV right now, unless you plan to purchase another TV soon the logical choice would be to hold out until you save up for a video processor and then buy the best TV you can afford. While I understand this thread states this is a short notice decision, purchasing a TV you're going to employ for years shouldn't be taken lightly.

Granted if you can find a TV that supports composite and performs as good or better than the alternatives ... have at it.






Now assuming you actually read the above ... haven't punched your screen ... nor haven't added me to your ignore list ... here's an alternative if you see a TV that has s-video but no composite.

$3.79 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GAYXV6/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Spoiler

you're welcome

 

[RedSwirl]

I'm not sure that's the right way to think about it (hear me out).


Having composite as a requirement will limit your choices, and potentially result in your purchasing an inferior TV at your price-point. Since you've stated you can put up with your current TV right now, unless you plan to purchase another TV soon the logical choice would be to hold out until you save up for a video processor and then buy the best TV you can afford. While I understand this thread states this is a short notice decision, purchasing a TV you're going to employ for years shouldn't be taken lightly.

Granted if you can find a TV that supports composite and performs as good or better than the alternatives ... have at it.






Now assuming you actually read the above ... haven't punched your screen ... nor haven't added me to your ignore list ... here's an alternative if you see a TV that has s-video but no composite.

$3.79 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GAYXV6/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Spoiler

you're welcome

I haven't seen a TV with S-Video but without composite, but if I encounter one where that is indeed the case it's not a problem. I guess I should state that I need at least one composite OR S-Video input.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Personally, I prefer LED's. From my experience, they are brighter, crispier and the colors appear more vibrant and accurate compared to plasmas. Also, plasmas seem more delicate than LED's. Not sure about input lag issues, but they seem to run games fine with the 120HZ turned on and I don't seem to have any problems with lag. Admittedly, I am not real proficient in knowledge that particular area. Plasmas from what I've heard are better with viewing angles, blacks and night time viewing. Got to admit thought the Panasonic plasmas are real nice though. Also, you cannot forget about the Pioneer Kuro or the Pioneer Elite, but that is an entirely different story.

 

[Error Macro]

Also, I would take a look at this Samsung plasma. I know that it's only 720p but resolution isn't everything

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung+-+43"+Class+(43&%2334;+Diag.)+-+Plasma+-+720p+-+600Hz+-+HDTV/4837604.p?id=1218540192528&skuId=4837604&st=Samsung%20plasma&cp=1&lp=2

Seconding this recommendation. I just got the 51" version a couple of days ago and I'm loving it. If you like the best properties of a CRT (viewing angles, black levels, motion resolution), then you want a plasma.

Depending on viewing distance, the resolution doesn't really matter anyway.

I've yet to really test for the feel of the input lag, but others report it around 30ms, which is in line with other plasmas. However, as alluded to in a post above, there is a trick whereby naming the HDMI 2(?) input as "PC" will disable the image processing and cut down on the lag.

 

[JonathanPower]

No offense, but don't think you quite understand what 120hz refresh rate is for. It's a common misunderstanding, mostly because of shitty marketing by TV manufacturers.

Motion interpolation is not the same thing as a 120hz TV.


120hz - great refresh rate that lets you watch 24, 30, 60 fps content natively.

Motion Smoothing Interpolation - trendy post processing that adds fake frames to emulate higher framerate. Yucky. That's why it's an option, so you can turn it off.


This is a quick, simple explanation.

120hz TVs can run 24, 30, and 60 fps content "natively" because 24,30,60 all cleanly multiply into a 120 refresh rate. Older TVs have to convert those 24fps into 30fps, making film look choppy.

Some TVs have "features" that can add fake frames to make motion "seem" smoother. It's a feature that can be turned off, because it usually looks like shit. Instead of natively displaying 24fps film (what you want, and what 120hz TVs give you) Motion Smoothing adds fake frames to turn 24fps beauty into faked higher framerate trash.





Yeah, I believe all Panasonic Plasmas have pixel orbiters. But having the TV shift the image around a couple of pixels doesn't do much for retro games where some of the UI is solid colored areas taking up a quarter of the screen.

This is not correct. Many 60Hz Tvs with native 24p support, such as the LG ones, can set a refresh rate of 24Hz. If the Tv supports different refresh rates (60Hz, 50Hz, 24Hz are the most commonly supported) there is no need for 120Hz. I think that it's better having a blue ray movie displayed at 24Hz than having it displayed at 120Hz, but that's just my opinion.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Don't let people talk you out of a plasma - still the best pq for your dollar out there. I own two, myself, and just got my second this year.

 

[DonMigs85]

Just get a Panasonic 42ST50

 

[pswii60]

Don't get a Plasma, 2012 models are bad. They suffer from burn in and have other issues.

I'm sorry you're having issues with yours. My 2012 42GT50 is fantastic and doesn't have any issues at all. My first step in to the world of plasma, replacing a LED, and I'd never go back.

 

[meppi]

I can't recommend a Samsung plasma at all. My sister bought a 50" model and it's rather shit.
I can however recommend the Panasonic plasmas. Have one for 4 years now and if they ever stop making them, I'll buy 2 60" ones of the latest models just to be sure.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Personally, I prefer LED's. From my experience, they are brighter, crispier and the colors appear more vibrant and accurate compared to plasmas. Also, plasmas seem more delicate than LED's. Not sure about input lag issues, but they seem to run games fine with the 120HZ turned on and I don't seem to have any problems with lag. Admittedly, I am not real proficient in knowledge that particular area. Plasmas from what I've heard are better with viewing angles, blacks and night time viewing. Got to admit thought the Panasonic plasmas are real nice though. Also, you cannot forget about the Pioneer Kuro or the Pioneer Elite, but that is an entirely different story.

I've never heard a human being argue that LED have more vibrant colors than Plasma. Never.



I have a 2010 LG 60' Plasma and it has been good to me I must say. No burn in, but the image retention is annoying. Heard the new Macbook Pro with Retina and Imac also have this problem sometimes. But I like the Plasma for the colors, the deep blacks.



If I only would be using it for games, I would have gone with a projector. Projectors rarely look good when watching cable though.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I've never heard a human being argue that LED have more vibrant colors than Plasma. Never.



I have a 2010 LG 60' Plasma and it has been good to me I must say. No burn in, but the image retention is annoying. Heard the new Macbook Pro with Retina and Imac also have this problem sometimes. But I like the Plasma for the colors, the deep blacks.



If I only would be using it for games, I would have gone with a projector. Projectors rarely look good when watching cable though.

I could of been the models I was comparing. I also compared two Samsungs side by side as well. Maybe the picture wasn't properly calibrated? Too me it looked more accurate and the colors popped out more on the LED with brighter whites and richer color. I never owned a plasma, but I did play around with some plasmas for a bit and compared them.

 

[DonMigs85]

The most vibrant LED is probably the Sharp Quattron line, but it's very expensive and only available in massive sizes I believe (52 inches up to 80)

 

[ShinobiFist]

Get whatever is cheap and good....Oh, that would be a Panasonic Plasma

 

[RedSwirl]

How many of you people suggesting plasmas play hours of NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, and Wii games on them?

Edit: And I have no idea what these external TV processors look like or where I could get one.

 

[gamefan]

How many of you people suggesting plasmas play hours of NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, and Wii games on them?

Edit: And I have no idea what these external TV processors look like or where I could get one.

I own a plasma and mostly game old school on it (I also own several CRTs). The plasma looks good when used with the XRGB Mini.

 

[chadderbox77]

I've never heard a human being argue that LED have more vibrant colors than Plasma. Never.



I have a 2010 LG 60' Plasma and it has been good to me I must say. No burn in, but the image retention is annoying. Heard the new Macbook Pro with Retina and Imac also have this problem sometimes. But I like the Plasma for the colors, the deep blacks.



If I only would be using it for games, I would have gone with a projector. Projectors rarely look good when watching cable though.

I've got that same 60" plasma down in the den and a LG 50" plasma upstairs in the living room. They look beautiful. Never had a problem with a burn in of any kind and I've never seen a better looking screen at any of my friend's houses on their flat screens. Ever. The colors look amazing. The kids game on them all the time too.