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Should fatter people pay more on planes?

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snaildog

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I don't care if it's prejudiced, it just seems ridiculous that I have to keep my bag down to a tiny weight when there's someone opposite me that's four times heavier. They don't even weigh the damn passengers at all. Stupid fat people.
 
Well, technically yes. But of course there's no way such a move would ever actually go unchallenged by fat people. And they have powerful lawyers.
 

kumanoki

Member
snaildog said:
I don't care if it's prejudiced, it just seems ridiculous that I have to keep my bag down to a tiny weight when there's someone opposite me that's four times heavier. They don't even weigh the damn passengers at all. Stupid fat people.

Shouldn't blame be placed on the airlines for not being able to provide service?
Or the US gov't. for deregulating airlines in the seventies?
 

Odnetnin

Banned
that's right. You should tell them to their face and write a letter to the FDA/AAA. Fat people should be locked at home and not allowed out of the kennel. They also cause turbulence as their fat react to the atmospheric pressure

disclaimer: I am not fat.
 

NLB2

Banned
Well, I think you would have to change it from a fat issue to a weight issue. It costs me the same amount to buy a ticket as a little girl, but to the airlines, my 200 pounds cost a lot more than that little girls 50 pounds to fly to the destination. I think it would only be fair to the consumers if people payed based on weight, however I don't think it will ever be possible to do this.
 

Macam

Banned
Weight has nothing to do in particular with baggage size really. Having been on a number of flights recently, it's people that tend to entirely ignore any consideration for other passengers and bring on far too many items to store, such as using overhead compartments to put their put their jacket up or refusing to tuck a small bag in the seat in front of them during completely booked flights, that take up the most space. Checking in baggage may not be ideal, especially with the increased rate of lost luggage recently, but it's there for a reason and as long as you take essentials onboard if you can, you should be fine. Forget fat people, inconsiderate assholes should pay more.
 

Dilbert

Member
snaildog said:
I don't care if it's prejudiced, it just seems ridiculous that I have to keep my bag down to a tiny weight when there's someone opposite me that's four times heavier. They don't even weigh the damn passengers at all. Stupid fat people.
I don't understand what your issue is.

Are you complaining about carry-on luggage size or weight? That has nothing to do with the weight of the other passengers.

Are you complaining about how needing to carry "fat people" causes the aggregate luggage weight limit per passenger to be lower than it might be otherwise? I'd find it hard to believe that you typically take more than 70-75 pounds of luggage on trips.

Are you complaining about having room on the flight? Quite frankly, fat people are only part of your worries. Tall people, or people with very broad shoulders, take up just as much (if not more) room on planes. And, why blame the passengers when most airlines just LOVE to design cramped seating areas on planes?

So what's really going on here?
 

explodet

Member
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6409403/

Heavy suitcases aren’t the only things weighing down airplanes and requiring them to burn more fuel, pushing up the cost of flights. A new government study reveals that airlines increasingly have to worry more about the weight of their passengers.

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America’s growing waistlines are hurting the bottom lines of airline companies as the extra pounds on passengers are causing a drag on planes. Heavier fliers have created heftier fuel costs, according to the government study.

Through the 1990s, the average weight of Americans increased by 10 pounds, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The extra weight caused airlines to spend $275 million to burn 350 million more gallons of fuel in 2000 just to carry the additional weight of Americans, the federal agency estimated in a recent issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine.

PS: Don't shoot the messenger.
 

Jak140

Member
Why not just sell tickets by the pound (including luggage and body weight) and that way everyone can just pay for what they need?
 

Odnetnin

Banned
and fat people can't wipe their arses properly. They always manage to somehow smell like shit or too damn smelly from cologne (which they use to mask the smell), Its either that or they have so much body area that they spritz away and end up smelling like a perfume counter
 

Loki

Count of Concision
Odnetnin said:
that's right. You should tell them to their face and write a letter to the FDA/AAA. Fat people should be locked at home and not allowed out of the kennel. They also cause turbulence as their fat react to the atmospheric pressure

:lol

disclaimer: I am not fat

Yeah, I think we sorta had that one figured out-- unless you had a case of severe self-loathing. :p
 

Jonnyram

Member
I think the baggage allowance system is archaic but they haven't found a way to change it without in turn allowing people to rape the post office by carrying a ton of luggage for a fraction of the price it costs to ship by air. 20kg of luggage is a ridiculous limit when, as is stated in the first post, I could have some guy sat next to me who weighs twice as much as me. Even worse is when a child joins you and you get a measly 10kg extra allowance even though they weigh even less!
 

etiolate

Banned
No, they should donate to all the third world countries that are now making American sizes in larger dimensions thanks to their fat ass.
 

Loki

Count of Concision
Jak140 said:
Jesus, his rant was so virulent I assumed it was satirical.

It was...or so I hope. :p That was my impression, at least. My point was that he didn't have to add that he wasn't himself fat, since we'd conclude as much on our own based on his diatribe, unless he really hated himself. :D
 

Agent Dormer

Dirty Drinking Smoker
If you're so heavy you're overflowing, the airline better make sure you paid for my ticket. The seats are bad enough in coach nowadays that the added issue of having someone's fat leak into my seat area is a costant fear I have when flying. Sorry, I just really don't want to get stuck in that position. Most likely I'd request for a new seat or to be moved to a different flight or something, because if I am paying for whatever tiny space there is, it's my space. Not the space for your rolls.
 

snaildog

Member
-jinx- said:
I don't understand what your issue is.

Are you complaining about carry-on luggage size or weight? That has nothing to do with the weight of the other passengers.

Are you complaining about how needing to carry "fat people" causes the aggregate luggage weight limit per passenger to be lower than it might be otherwise? I'd find it hard to believe that you typically take more than 70-75 pounds of luggage on trips.

Are you complaining about having room on the flight? Quite frankly, fat people are only part of your worries. Tall people, or people with very broad shoulders, take up just as much (if not more) room on planes. And, why blame the passengers when most airlines just LOVE to design cramped seating areas on planes?

So what's really going on here?
I just plain don't much like fat people. Send them off to an island somewhere (no technology) and breed them out of our countries.
 

Hero

Member
snaildog said:
I just plain don't much like fat people. Send them off to an island somewhere (no technology) and breed them out of our countries.


Well what if somebody didn't like black people? Or Mexicans? How about gays and lesbians? Or people with AIDs?

Actually, you know, you since you have such a GREAT idea, why don't we do it logically? Since the -majority- of America is overweight, why not take anyone who's not fat and ship them off to another country?
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Relevant to this issue:

More weight means more fuel; there's no way around it. Two hundred passengers on a given flight, at an extra 10 pounds each, means 2,000 added pounds. Specifically, the CDC states that in the year 2000, U.S. airlines had to burn 350 million extra gallons of fuel, at a cost of more than a quarter of a billion dollars, to haul the added weight of ever-widening Americans. That extra fuel released an estimated 3.8 million tons of climate-changing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Those are, if I may, pretty fat numbers, but they deserve some perspective. In the case of a fully loaded 747, which has a maximum takeoff weight close to 900,000 pounds, the sum heft of an overbooked cabin (about 400 well-fed souls) represents less than 10 percent of the total, which mostly consists of fuel (about 400,000 pounds), freight and the vessel itself.

That ratio isn't so impressive with every model, as the 747 has outrageous economies of scale. Generally, the smaller the aircraft, the more your girth matters. With the 747, our extra 10 pounds equate to .46 percent of the maximum. In the case of a 19-seater, it's about 1.2 percent.

That's not to downplay the significance of those 350 million extra gallons; only to point out that the weight of the passengers may not be as crucial to overall efficiency as you think. A less than optimal cruising altitude, for instance, can burn a lot more fuel than the expanded waistlines of those on board.

But for good measure, at least in this country, the airlines have turned proactive by refusing to feed you.

As for "driving up fares," while the impetus is there in concept, fares remain cheaper than ever. Mean ticket prices in today's dollars are the cheapest they've been since 1987. Adjusted for inflation, they are the lowest ever.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2004/11/19/askthepilot112/index1.html
 

impirius

Member
Fixed2BeBroken said:
Fatty fat FATS!
"You're not a shoplifter, you're just a fat kid. Sorry about that fatty, fat, fatty. Hey Tom, he's just a fat kid. Aren't ya fatty? He's a big ol' fat kid. Here's some chocolate fatso."

"Thanks!"
 

Brannon

Member
"Fat chicks need flyin' too. But they gotta pay. More."

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Just bring 2 medium bags with you- one filled with all your metal items, one not. Tape the one not filled with anything metal onto your stomach, put a baggy shirt over it, pretend to be fat as you walk through security and onto the plane, then keep one bag at your feet or on your lap during the flight and one, if not both in the overhead storage compartment.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I wonder if some of you guys would ever go around in real life ranting about the shit you do. You know, take a stand against the blight of people you don't like! Stand up in that airplane and tell all the hideous, ugly fat people, those sub-human creatures which should be wiped from the face of the earth, to PAY YO' DAMN TICkET, OR GO KILL THEMSELVES!

Fight! Fight for, uh, er, whatever the hell your problem is!
 
Kaijima said:
I wonder if some of you guys would ever go around in real life ranting about the shit you do. You know, take a stand against the blight of people you don't like! Stand up in that airplane and tell all the hideous, ugly fat people, those sub-human creatures which should be wiped from the face of the earth, to PAY YO' DAMN TICkET, OR GO KILL THEMSELVES!
Do you go around in real life ranting about the furry artist's agenda?

And he never called them hideous or ugly.
 

Ferrio

Banned
If they start taking up more than 1 seat, ya. Otherwise no. A passanger plane isn't there to transport your shit, it's there to transport people.
 

Tamanon

Banned
RonaldoSan said:
The world is going down the shitter...

And yet at this rate, we'll probably get stuck and have to get greased down it.

"I'm going to need you to take those hams out of your shirt, son"
 

olimario

Banned
If they need 2 seats they should pay for 2 seats. If their fat is spilling over their seat and onto yours, they should pay for 2 seats.
 

Doth Togo

Member
Odnetnin said:
that's right. You should tell them to their face and write a letter to the FDA/AAA. Fat people should be locked at home and not allowed out of the kennel. They also cause turbulence as their fat react to the atmospheric pressure

disclaimer: I am not fat.

The creator of Half Life and Half Life 2 is obese. If what you said existed, there wouldn't be a HL.
 
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Folder

Unconfirmed Member
Having stepped off a trans-Atlantic flight some four hours ago I can confidently say yes, they should. If you don't fir in the seat, pay for two seats, an upgrade or don't fly until you've saved up.
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Folder said:
Having stepped off a trans-Atlantic flight some four hours ago I can confidently say yes, they should. If you don't fir in the seat, pay for two seats, an upgrade or don't fly until you've saved up.

If you're too big to fight in a seat the airline will force you to purchase another seat. I know it, becuase I've seen it happen.
 
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Folder

Unconfirmed Member
Nerevar said:
If you're too big to fight in a seat the airline will force you to purchase another seat. I know it, becuase I've seen it happen.
I'll post an image here tomorrow disproving that. :)
 

Brofist

Member
The irony would be if those fat people that were forced to buy a 2nd seat were entitled to a second meal :p
 
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Folder

Unconfirmed Member
kpop100 said:
The irony would be if those fat people that were forced to buy a 2nd seat were entitled to a second meal :p
:lol
 
Some creatures were not meant to fly.

Some were. This creature was meant to fly:
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As was this one:
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But I'll be damned if mother nature intended these creatures to fly:
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Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
kpop100 said:
The irony would be if those fat people that were forced to buy a 2nd seat were entitled to a second meal :p
:lol :lol :lol

I think it should be a flat price until 250 lbs, then an added charge that increases every 50 lbs. thereafter.
 

Nerevar

they call me "Man Gravy".
Folder said:
I'll post an image here tomorrow disproving that. :)

well, under FAA regulations, they're supposed to force you to buy another seat. I guess some lazy flight attendants might not, but it's what the FAA dictates. If your flight was transatlantic, it might've originated in a foreign country unused to fatasses like we are, and thus unprepared to deal with the massive girth Americans bring onto these planes.
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
25_8_2003_obese.jpg


If either of these men had penises, they were long since crushed or accidentally eaten in a hot dog dropping incident.
 
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