Tom Nook Sawyer
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The game already had a toggle, and I found it was worse with it on imo. PiP would have eaten into your play area too.
So could it have worked? Technically. But it would have been a lesser experience
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Should Nintendo have delayed Star Fox Zero to be a Switch launch title?
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The game already had a toggle, and I found it was worse with it on imo. PiP would have eaten into your play area too.
So could it have worked? Technically. But it would have been a lesser experience
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Delicious isn't it 😂
On topic I'd love another Starfox this time with a budget over 25cents.
LegendofLex
Member
Switch didn't need its well poisoned by a dud like Star Fox Zero.
This. Focusing too much on the gamepad use ruined it.
TheDinoman
Member
Game literally only exists just to be a gimmicky tech demo for the Wii U gamepad.
Which is pretty absurd, considering it released in 2016 and by that point, the Gamepad and the entire console itself had been well proven to be a total failure. And thus, Star Fox Zero was a total failure.
Which is pretty absurd, considering it released in 2016 and by that point, the Gamepad and the entire console itself had been well proven to be a total failure. And thus, Star Fox Zero was a total failure.
Milly Osworth
Member
Nahhh, that crappy game fits right on wiiu.
El_Presidente
Member
Worst Nintendo game I've ever bought which is depressing because I REALLY wanted to like it.
TheMagician
Member
It felt like a low budget tech demo.
I absolutely adore StarFox 64.
How do you save the series? Just make a ****ing good one!
I absolutely adore StarFox 64.
How do you save the series? Just make a ****ing good one!
TheDinoman
Member
Star Fox has basically been pushed into the same bottomless hole Paper Mario and Metroid have. The "we're just gonna experiment and keep doing everything but what our audience actually wants from these games" hole.
HeisenbergLannister
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When people try to push their deluded opinions as facts.
Green Mamba
Member
Hey!
Star Fox was in that hole first.
EDIT: Star Fox might have even been the original digger of the hole.
CuckFupertino
Banned
There are currently fewer Switches in the wild than there were Wii U when Starfox came out, so no having it on Switch would not = more sales. Starfox bombed because it was a shitty game.
Furthermore, wasn't the entire gimmick of the game using the gamepad to aim? That wouldn't work on Switch either.
Furthermore, wasn't the entire gimmick of the game using the gamepad to aim? That wouldn't work on Switch either.
TheMoon
Member
No it wasn't. It was supposed to have general GamePad functionality with the touch screen. Not DUAL SCREEN gameplay. Star Fox Zero has dual screen gameplay - relying on both screens at the same time like a DS game. That was its whole reason for existing.
TheMagician
Member
Zelda sold miles better on Switch though.
It's especially baffling with Starfox because didn't the SNES and N64 games do really well?
This is where you discover that you aren't representative of "most people".
SNES one was wholly tied up in being a hardware demo, and one-up on other consoles. Got a lot of sales and love through that, which carried over into the N64 one but as 3D games have evolved so Star Fox has appeared outdated.
I still think it would find a place, and satisfy fans, if instead of being embarrassed about it being a rail-shooter they just embraced it. Stop fucking around with it. Give it the production values it needs, some imaginative set-pieces. Job done.
Miyamoto's 'we have to find a new twist to put on this' thing isn't always a blessing, and in Zero's case put a bullet in its head.
CuckFupertino
Banned
Zelda's a system seller and a cultural phenomenon. At best Starfox might have benefited from the current dearth of games for Switch, but even then I'm sure sales numbers for games like Bomberman R and other Switch titles would show that bump isn't significant.
MatthewB92
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Is this one of those alternative facts I keep hearing about?
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
They would have had to change a ton of it due to the lack of the second screen. Plus it needed normal controls and multiplayer badly.
Don't worry though, I have a feeling it will be ported to Switch with these changes implemented.
Don't worry though, I have a feeling it will be ported to Switch with these changes implemented.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Extremely well.
Well, Mario and Zelda already did it with Zelda II and the US release of SMB2. Of course, both went back to old conventions with the sequels with Star Fox kept changing post 64.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Star Fox (but a good one) would have done wonders for the launch. Much more so than beginning the Mario spin-off IP saturation early.
IS treasure even alive any more? Last thing I remember was making a weird toyline tie-in video game for 3DS that never left Japan.
Not necessarily, I bought two copies and I imagine I wasn't alone in doing so. A collector's edition that is going to stay sealed and a regular copy for playing.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
NO. They should have just did better with the controls.
You put but a good one. So are you including SF0 or no?
I disagree if you mean SF0. Seing the sales of bomberman, snipperclips, 1-2 Switch, a casual focused game with "Mario" in the title would've done really well, no doubt about it. Mario Sports moreso than PM. PM is hard to say.
I don't really see the saturation...well unless that Mario Rabbids game exists and is bad.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Yeah, they should re release Zero again on Switch without the weird two screens controlling system.
It'd be a really really good game then.
It'd be a really really good game then.
Fast Forward
Member
No, but I wish they had done so with Color Splash.
Huh? There's a history of this kind of thing happening in the gaming industry. Happened many times before. Eternal Darkness was originally a N64 game. Super Paper Mario was originally a GC game.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
The problem with Zero, to me, is beyond just the controls (though it doesn't help). It feels like an imitation of Star Fox 64 when it should be an evolution. It really needed to straight up be a different game.
lastrealgameralive
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kitchenmotors
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Spring-Loaded
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It might have sold better, but it wouldn't have been much better because it was intrinsically tied to the Wii U. It originated as an attempt to make use of the dual screen setup. It was painfully clear the number of levels and their design, the limited branching paths and generally barebones content was a result of the work it took just to create that control scheme, build something around it, and have it run at 60fps across two screens. That result was a neat novelty or a huge hindrance to most, something generally not considered worth the sacrifices and effort.
A SF Switch would be a different game. A theoretical SF made for Switch that had local and online multiplayer could've been decently successful, in terms of sales and reception.
I wish ... man. Could be good
A SF Switch would be a different game. A theoretical SF made for Switch that had local and online multiplayer could've been decently successful, in terms of sales and reception.
I wish ... man. Could be good
Pokemaniac
Member
It'd be technically functional. That wouldn't be at all a good way to play the game, though.
boiled goose
good with gravy
A flawed game made to prove a point but mostly failing.
Story worse than original. Outdated in some ways. Not a visual treat either.
Starfox zero and skyward sword are bad Nintendo while splatoon and botw are good Nintendo.
(Bad Nintendo still good to decent, but thinks innovation is tied to inputs, thinks accessibility is hand holding tutorials.
Story worse than original. Outdated in some ways. Not a visual treat either.
Starfox zero and skyward sword are bad Nintendo while splatoon and botw are good Nintendo.
(Bad Nintendo still good to decent, but thinks innovation is tied to inputs, thinks accessibility is hand holding tutorials.
Treasure is one thing (even though they barely exist, now).
My dream StarFox game would be something like Panzer Dragoon Saga. Action-RPG merged with corridor shooting + space-vehicular/mecha-based action sounds like something that would be right up PlatinumGames' alley.
Either way, the sooner the series is placed into the hands of some new blood and kept far and away from Miyamoto's ethics about the series needing to be a "tech showcase", the better, in my opinion.
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