Bernardougf
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60 fps is a huge difference for any game... but its nothing new since the switch also had 60 fps games.
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TLOZ Tears of the Kingdom should have been a Switch 2 launch exclusive
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60 fps is a huge difference for any game... but its nothing new since the switch also had 60 fps games.
BlackTron
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I don't really care that they reuse assets, in fact I just made a post explaining why I don't care they reused the map.
But I would have cared it it were a Switch 2 launch game. It's a Switch 1 double-dip. It's not a next-gen game, and I don't want it positioned or marketed as one. If Gamecube launched with Majora's Mask instead of releasing it on 64, and that somehow made them feel they had released a "gamecube zelda" and had more time to make me wait for the next one, I'd be pissed. Because it is a Nintendo 64 game.
BlackTron
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Truth be told, it's just been boosted so it no longer runs like crap. It still looks like a last gen game.
I honestly don't think the boost should have been paid. For a fee I would have wanted more texture improvements. Sorry Nintendo. Of course I still think the game is quite technically impressive but this is just business room fleecing and little else like the Welcome Tour decision. Ten dollars X many people who will get it on a whim = money in the account that wouldn't have been there. Yeah I know they added the phone app as an excuse to charge us for the patch that doesn't even have much real work in it. Gee thanks lol
Playing TOTK on Switch 2 on a big 4k TV. The super high resolution sharpness just reveals all the flaws that make it a last gen game. Flipping between Mario Kart and TOTK make it especially jarring. TOTK uses BOTW as a template which was made for Wii U with 1GB of RAM. The only way to make that world look next-gen would be to redo it from scratch. Just make a new game.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Happy the critics and sales disagree.
Zannegan
Member
Eh, you could make the same point about any remake/DE with an upgrade path on any platform. No one is rushing out to buy Switch 2 for upgraded Zelda any more than they were running out to buy a PS5 for the new and improved Horizon. It's a nice passive upgrade for many who were already buying Switch 2, not a conspiracy.
Guardian Monkey
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I did
BOTW outsold TOTK even after TOTK launched. Most people disagree with you. ToTK had a big decline in sales relative to BOTW.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
people keep forgetting, Retread of the Kingdom was the first mainline Zelda entry made for the switch.
BoTW was just a port from the console it was built from the ground up for.
Without Rehash of the Kingdom there was no mainline Zelda title for the entire switch life cycle, just a port.
BoTW was just a port from the console it was built from the ground up for.
Without Rehash of the Kingdom there was no mainline Zelda title for the entire switch life cycle, just a port.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Totk had a huge impact on the switch
Banjo64
cumsessed
Disagree OP.
The Switch duology is superb.
TotK releasing in 2023 means the next 3D Zelda is already 2 years in to development and we should see the next game in 3 years or so without any strategic delays.
I'm looking forward to playing through Echoes of Wisdom for the first time when I get a Switch 2.
The Switch duology is superb.
TotK releasing in 2023 means the next 3D Zelda is already 2 years in to development and we should see the next game in 3 years or so without any strategic delays.
I'm looking forward to playing through Echoes of Wisdom for the first time when I get a Switch 2.
vaibhavpisal
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Am playing this currently.
Reminds me of some fantastic titles like Skyrim, Elden Ring and of course BOTW.
So far my ranking for these 4 titles would be:
Elden Ring > TOTK > Skyrim > BOTW.
Elden Ring makes a big impact at beginning and keeps same energy throughout. Its quest is simply epic, 1 or 2 games come close imo (BG2).
TOTK is not as impressive as Elden Ring, but still more imaginative than Skyrim I would say. Fun activities just like Skyrim dot the map.
Skyrim again, just like TOTK has great pacing in open world. Stuff is interesting to do and comes at good pace. Perfection, cannot be improved upon unless some major changes like Elden Ring art style, imo. Map design is excellent, better than TOTK cause its not reusing an old map.
BOTW : best design out of the bunch imo. As good or better than Skyrim. Too empty for my taste and couldn't finish it, so gets last place.
Reminds me of some fantastic titles like Skyrim, Elden Ring and of course BOTW.
So far my ranking for these 4 titles would be:
Elden Ring > TOTK > Skyrim > BOTW.
Elden Ring makes a big impact at beginning and keeps same energy throughout. Its quest is simply epic, 1 or 2 games come close imo (BG2).
TOTK is not as impressive as Elden Ring, but still more imaginative than Skyrim I would say. Fun activities just like Skyrim dot the map.
Skyrim again, just like TOTK has great pacing in open world. Stuff is interesting to do and comes at good pace. Perfection, cannot be improved upon unless some major changes like Elden Ring art style, imo. Map design is excellent, better than TOTK cause its not reusing an old map.
BOTW : best design out of the bunch imo. As good or better than Skyrim. Too empty for my taste and couldn't finish it, so gets last place.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
It would be a mockery if an expansion were exclusive to the new generation of Nintendo.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
you know what would make me play this type of Zelda even longer? A real level up system.
I so hate the way this game and games like monster hunter handle buffing. you eat a bunch of shit every time you want take on something big. just give me a real stat set that I can level somehow. its my only gripe to a great game.
I so hate the way this game and games like monster hunter handle buffing. you eat a bunch of shit every time you want take on something big. just give me a real stat set that I can level somehow. its my only gripe to a great game.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
I've been playing TotK on my Switch 1 and I think it runs perfectly fine and looks very good. I was expecting a technical mess based on the opinions of certain Gaffers, but I have only been pleasantly surprised.
I so far think that BotW is the better game though as it had a better story and felt more focused. The atmosphere was also much more exciting and immersive. But I'm still somewhat early in the game so it might get better.
I so far think that BotW is the better game though as it had a better story and felt more focused. The atmosphere was also much more exciting and immersive. But I'm still somewhat early in the game so it might get better.
diffusionx
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Hudo
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Fair point. I don't have any subscription to anything, so I've honestly forgotten about the retro stuff included in NSO.
MSduderino
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It should have been... but the switch kept selling. Which was a great problem for Nintendo to have. Nintendo knows what it's doing with it's releases, did the math and realized releasing it when it did would help spread out releases as best as possible while keeping their quality software drip pipeline going. BOTW/TOTK are seeing huge resurgences with S2 upgrades and it's great to see. We all want new games but this makes the game accessible to more people (releasing on S1 first, then S2 edition).
DKB and MKW started as S1 games and it's possible TOTK was intended as a S2 game. What nintendo has behind the curtain is rarely so easily predictable. Either way, DKB and MKW are fantastic first party launch window titles and S2 launch has been successful IMO, but we also have to wait and see.
DKB and MKW started as S1 games and it's possible TOTK was intended as a S2 game. What nintendo has behind the curtain is rarely so easily predictable. Either way, DKB and MKW are fantastic first party launch window titles and S2 launch has been successful IMO, but we also have to wait and see.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea. I also think that Nintendo used these ports to pad out the Switch 1's life so I don't think they'll be doing stuff like that anytime soon. They have new games to release.
Like, maybe TPHD in 3 years. Could be wrong but I don't see it.
Crayon
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Nah, buddy. People with a switch 1 and not ready to upgrade - When they are your customers you'd be wise to respect that decision/situation. Supporting that console as long as possible makes them feel better about their purchase and the brand and more likely to upgrade when the time comes.
Look at how long every playstation is supported after the next one comes out. That is a big part of their success. We bitch about cross-gen but being obsessed with games is not the norm.
Look at how long every playstation is supported after the next one comes out. That is a big part of their success. We bitch about cross-gen but being obsessed with games is not the norm.
Kataploom
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IMO they play very different from each other, but share the common base and map which makes one redundant compared to the other
cash_longfellow
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Why? When they can just release it again at full price soon. Nintendo has got to Nintendo, and if you don't like it, welp… then expect a lawsuit 
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Except for Recall. Gamechanger.
Zannegan
Member
You need ascend too, especially for some big fights. And if you want you can use ultrahand to make the most powerful combat machines in the game. *shrug*
I wouldn't call the powers useless in combat at all.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
semiconscious
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agreed. as a non-switch 2 owner, that would've basically prevented me from buying it...
Rran
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TotK is a great game but it would've made an underwhelming Switch 2 Zelda. Reusing the world map from BotW would've been a huge problem for a system trying to stand out from its predecessor. Like another user mentioned, it'd be like GameCube launching with an up-ressed Majora's Mask.
Zannegan
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See, I'm hoping they reuse it one more time on Switch 2, just buried in water like Windwaker.