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[simpatico]

I am primarily a single player gamer. I do not pay for PS+. If I was a multiplayer guy, I would stay far away from the steam machines as they do not run most popular multiplayer titles. What difference does the PS+ fees make to a prospective consumer choosing between a PS5 and Steam machine? If he wanted to play online games, the Steam box and the Steam deck would not even be in contention.

There is no meaningful difference in sales prices between Steam and PSN.

What about assurances of backwards compatibility? The guys who built massive PS3 libraries are coaster collecting.

 

[LordOcidax]

Nothing, the Steam machines are going to be niche products like the Steamdeck.

 

[iamvin22]

People just think its a foregon conclusion that Sony will continue porting games to Pc, but things always change. People have said console sales are failing, or that Sony needs to make more money by porting some of their games to Steam, but PSN made 3x as much in revenue than Steam last year. It would affect Valve more than it would affect Sony if they choose to go back to full exclusivity for the PS6.

I agree. If they do decide to go back to exclusivity (which they will I believe) it will be for the single player games.

 

[jmiller180]

Until they resolve the lack of support for games with certain anti-cheat (e.g. COD, Battlefield, etc.) this product will not be able to compete in the broader console market.

 

[Sethbacca]

I still think Sony should drop some SteamOS versions of their games and fund some Bazzite development that way they're not dependent on Windows access.

 

[Fake]

Means nothing, unless you are talking about Steam Deck, if Sony really want to move foward their supost handheld, will be against both Nintedo Switch and Steam Deck.


But the Steam Machine is there to fight against Windows Desktop and Apple Desktop, aka Windows vs SteamOS.

 

[Sooner]

The thing will struggle to sell half of what the Wii U sold. Sony will likely continue as if it doesn't exist, because it barely will.

 

[londontko]

The game is changing so quickly and it's fascinating. Sony sees where the game is going and needs to fight a war on two fronts and release a portable option to counter Xbox play anywhere strategy, which is in it's infancy with the ROG Ally. I think Microsoft may have had some actually good long term thinking here, but it will be awhile before it all plays out to know for sure. By getting out of the console business and opening it up to companies it's going create a wild environment where companies like Asus and MSI battle it out to create the latest and greatest box that scales the experience and takes advantage of the new hardware. Meanwhile cloud gaming is looming in the background waiting for it's turn to deliver that experience on a $100 box that connects to the internet.

You better buckle up and up your dose GAF...

 

[lastmessiah]

The game is changing so quickly and it's fascinating. Sony sees where the game is going and needs to fight a war on two fronts and release a portable option to counter Xbox play anywhere strategy, which is in it's infancy with the ROG Ally. I think Microsoft may have had some actually good long term thinking here, but it will be awhile before it all plays out to know for sure. By getting out of the console business and opening it up to companies it's going create a wild environment where companies like Asus and MSI battle it out to create the latest and greatest box that scales the experience and takes advantage of the new hardware. Meanwhile cloud gaming is looming in the background waiting for it's turn to deliver that experience on a $100 box that connects to the internet.

You better buckle up and up your dose GAF...

That game has already arrived, and we are in the middle innings. The only people engaging in console wars are fat 40something dudes who only play single player games.

 

[Perrott]

That they're both going to be getting my money going forward

 

[mayham2199]

It will do nothing in the market. Strange how everyone is ignoring how a lot of the most popular games don't even work on SteamOS. Until Steam resolves the issue with MP games not working it's nothing to worry about. I assume they hope to push their SteamOS to enough people that it forces the devs to concede and start supporting SteamOS but there's no guarantee that happens.

 

[londontko]

That game has already arrived, and we are in the middle innings. The only people engaging in console wars are fat 40something dudes who only play single player games.

 

[xenosys]

Is it going to eat into Sony's share of the console market? Perhaps a little, but this isn't going to be selling any more than 5-10m units over the next 3-4 years. That's being generous as well.

Casuals are going to be disappointed when they hook this up to their 4K OLED expecting a satisfactory 4K experience, only to realise that they can't run modern games at more than 1080p/60FPS without an inferior upscaler like FSR3.

 

[Gamezone]

Nothing. It's a PC with Steam OS. You can make it today.

 

[Humdinger]

I don't think it'll bother Sony in the short term (meaning through the PS6 generation), but if Valve are able to get a foothold, they could gradually expand their slice of the pie until it does start to become an actual competitor. That's pretty far down the road, though, and hard to foresee clearly.

But at this point, it's no threat. It might steal away a few PS players (like me), but most Sony players will stick with Sony.