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[ssringo]

Angela got a somewhat notable model change from what was pressed just on the disc, a lot less Duchoveny.

I think the only problem I ever had with her design is that her head looks a little too big for her body. Like, she has a thin/frail body but the head of someone with a larger frame; not necessarily a heavyset person, just...healthier I suppose.

Spoiler: Angela Spoilers

I know she's supposed to be aged beyond her years because of what's happened to her in the past. But it should be shown in her face, not head size. She looks like she's getting enough to eat (again, not saying "fat") but it stays in her head and avoids her body.

I've avoided a lot of the discussion around this so I dunno if others have thought the same.

Late / Ending spoilers

It seems they changed it so you can see the characters more clearly, perhaps to see their facial expressions? I dunno, I also prefer the original look of that particular scene. It actually better conveys that

Spoiler: Late game scene

"it's hot as hell" in there.

 

[Flabagast]

I finally caved and bought the game, should arrive tomorrow. The thought that a retail version might evade me (and I wouldn't want to pay scalpers) was a good incentive.

You are in for a treat.

I still can't totally believe how good it turned out to be

 

[Arsic]

Surprised the patch made the game worse in too many ways.

They need to fix that labyrinth bug asap.

I’m working on my RE4 remake playthrough number 3 right now and then will likely run a new game plus on SH2 again.

Both of these games are top shelf gaming.

 

[Bartski]

 

[balls of snow]

Seems there is a workaround on the soft lock bug while eta the patch. Gonna try later with my earlier save.
Edit: my last save was before the prison. Guess im waiting for the patch gg.

 

[adamsapple]

Heads up, some people are reporting an issue in the Labyrinth segment after this patch and it is a known issue:

edit: Beaten like a zombie nurse in the Brookhaven hospital.

 

[Chuck Berry]

Anyway, absolutely loved the game! Anyone else get a glitch and unlock the achievement for beating it in under 10 hours despite the end game clock being 20+? Weird. It's like the patch started the clock over for in game time or something.

Happened to me when I finished last week pre patch. I played for 40 hours at least and still got the finish in under 10 hours troph The in game clock had me at 26. Maybe looking at the map stops the timer?

 

[Bartski]

Happened to me when I finished last week pre patch. I played for 40 hours at least and still got the finish in under 10 hours troph The in game clock had me at 26. Maybe looking at the map stops the timer?

there is a bug that resets the count after 20 hours or something like that. I also got it on my first run and it was way over 25h long

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

I'm such a dumbass. I was gonna stop the download to keep playing tonight without the Labyrinth bug...forgot and PS5 of course auto-updated. No SH2 tonight then.

 

[DavidGzz]

So some cutscenes are 60 fps now. Not all of them though. Odd. Got a key of sorrow from a car at the beginning since I got the chainsaw in NG+. Wonder what it opens.

 

[violence]

Glad I had this stupid achievement kill the moment for me. Why pop it there? Why tell the player this info? Achievements off now.

 

[Vick]

 

[Roufianos]

Yea that glitch was a real bitch. I'd imagine a lot of people who've been playing an hour or so a day were at the Labyrinth. I ended up deleting the game and reinstalling without the patch as a work around.

Anyway, finished it today with 14 hours logged. Absolute masterpiece. This is my first time experiencing this story and it's honestly amazing how much they achieve with probably 2 hours of cutscenes. Truly one of the great video game narratives and it really hits hard through the well written dialogue (a rarity these days) and amazing performances.

Sound and atmosphere are the best I've ever seen. The combat mechanics were good, though some enemy variety would have helped, but I can't really complain if they're being faithful to the original.

Only real complaint is the pacing. I feel like removing the Labyrinth would have improved it. Following on from the prior area, there was way too much time spent in almost pitch black. I also basically finished the game with more shotgun and rifle ammo then I could ever use making me feel a bit like a tank.

Likewise, the final location puzzle felt way too dragged out.

Still a 10/10 and the best survival horror I've ever played. I'm in awe of this game.

 

[Badlucktroll]

Cryptic Message During Bloober Developer Update Might Mean Silent Hill Remakes Are A Thing Of The Past

Bloober's Cryptic Goodbye To Franchise

screenrant.com

Could Bloober’s time in Silent Hill be finished?

 

[Holdfing]

Does anyone know how to turn off the radio sounds coming out of the PS5 controller on PC? This never happened until the latest update.

I've also noticed the radio sounds are exclusively coming from the DS5 now. I'm on PC and that wasn't the case before the update. Again, not game breaking but I dislike the shitty audio quality of the controller speakers so if anyone knows how to change it back, pls lmk.

Okay, started a new game and it's happening to me too. I tried lowering the volume in windows settings for the controller, but that didn't work. Disabling the controller as a sound device works, but that also disables the haptics. The only workaround I found was plugging an unused jack into the contoller. A cut off jack or an adapter should work.

 

[fart town usa]

Holding off on my playthrough until there's another patch. Thought I read something about the first patch potentially breaking something in the Labyrinth area, and I'm close to that.

No worries though, I got the Silent Hill HD Collection in the mail today, for PS3 of course. The v1.02 patch is still on PSN.

You can still buy a brand new copy of the HD collection on Amazon, wild.

 

[Ramz87]

Anyone play this with the Pulse headset? How is it?

 

[violence]

Using a headset, one of my series controllers has better sound than my other. These series controllers are shotty AF.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

I should've done the prison in one shot. It legit rattled me enough that I'm having a hard time going back to finish the last wing. It's just so damn oppressive that every night I've sat down to keep playing I go nahhh, I'm in a decent mood tonight!

 

[xrnzaaas]

You are in for a treat.

I still can't totally believe how good it turned out to be

About 3 hours in and I'm loving it. The visuals are great and the game is running great in the performance mode (PS5) after the latest patch.

I like how they hand crafted some of the mannequin jumpscares in close quarters. Fuckers got me twice already. ;p I'll be taking this very slowly as I enjoy careful exploration, especially with a such good map marking everything as you progress.

I also really love the audio, both the music and the ambient. Builds an awesome atmosphere and the game should be praised for that as well.

 

[ikbalCO]

It is crazy that its been 4 days and a game breaking bug is still not fixed.

What the hell is going on guys?

What is this?

 

[GymWolf]

Finished the game and then watched all the endigs i missed on yt, so...what is the canon ending? Because different endings completely change the entirety of james character and how he digest the silent hill experience, so there must be a canon one that determine who this guy really is.

Spoiler

dude goes from not being able to live anymore, to trying to revive mary, to going away with laura, to not learning anything from the sh experience and going out with maria and being a creepy asshole that is probably gonna kill her when the cough at the end is gonna get worse and he is gonna repeat the cycle

 

[RagnarokIV]

Cryptic Message During Bloober Developer Update Might Mean Silent Hill Remakes Are A Thing Of The Past

Bloober's Cryptic Goodbye To Franchise

screenrant.com

Could Bloober’s time in Silent Hill be finished?

Screenrant - word salad fake SEO 'articles' based on bullshit.

 

[shubik]

Finished it after 16 hours. I never played the original, so I don’t have any nostalgia or sentimental attachment to the game. That being said, I really enjoyed it. The atmosphere is top-notch, the cutscenes are great, and the gameplay loop kept me hooked. However, after the fight with Eddie and the Jail section, I started feeling like I was ready for it to wrap up. I kept going because I wanted to finish, but overall, I think the game dragged on a bit too long—especially after reading that the original was much shorter.

I would give it a 7-8/10

 

[J3nga]

Finished it after 16 hours. I never played the original, so I don’t have any nostalgia or sentimental attachment to the game. That being said, I really enjoyed it. The atmosphere is top-notch, the cutscenes are great, and the gameplay loop kept me hooked. However, after the fight with Eddie and the Jail section, I started feeling like I was ready for it to wrap up. I kept going because I wanted to finish, but overall, I think the game dragged on a bit too long—especially after reading that the original was much shorter.

I would give it a 7-8/10

I agree, the jail and the labyrinth overstayed its welcome, but the hotel was cool same as other major locations.

 

[GymWolf]

Finished it after 16 hours. I never played the original, so I don’t have any nostalgia or sentimental attachment to the game. That being said, I really enjoyed it. The atmosphere is top-notch, the cutscenes are great, and the gameplay loop kept me hooked. However, after the fight with Eddie and the Jail section, I started feeling like I was ready for it to wrap up. I kept going because I wanted to finish, but overall, I think the game dragged on a bit too long—especially after reading that the original was much shorter.

I would give it a 7-8/10

Agree, they stretched a 8-10 hours plot with very limited enemy variety into a 20+ hours game if you explore everything and play on hard.

Still a great game tho.

 

[shubik]

Agree, they stretched a 8-10 hours plot with very limited enemy variety into a 20+ hours game if you explore everything and play on hard.

Still a great game tho.

Yeah, more enemy variety would have definitely helped. There’s only so much you can do with completely dark and scary environments. It reminded me a bit of the really dark levels in the Metro games. It was always a relief to step back out into Silent Hill after those closed-off interior sections.

 

[DavidGzz]

So, how many of you guys wasted a bullet when you first found the gun? I swear that first bullet is possessed by the evil presence of that room. It happened to me, I aimed it and boom, a shot rang out without pressing the trigger. The same thing happened to both streamers I watched. Aris and Bawk, they both said I didn't press the button! Anyone else?

 

[Harkonnen]

So, how many of you guys wasted a bullet when you first found the gun? I swear that first bullet is possessed by the evil presence of that room. It happened to me, I aimed it and boom, a shot rang out without pressing the trigger. The same thing happened to both streamers I watched. Aris and Bawk, they both said I didn't press the button! Anyone else?

Happened to me too, I thought it was my mistake.

 

[tommib]

Finished the game and then watched all the endigs i missed on yt, so...what is the canon ending? Because different endings completely change the entirety of james character and how he digest the silent hill experience, so there must be a canon one that determine who this guy really is.

Spoiler

dude goes from not being able to live anymore, to trying to revive mary, to going away with laura, to not learning anything from the sh experience and going out with maria and being a creepy asshole that is probably gonna kill her when the cough at the end is gonna get worse and he is gonna repeat the cycle

All endings are canon. Pick the one that makes sense in your head.

That’s the beauty of multiple endings.

 

[ssringo]

Finished the game and then watched all the endigs i missed on yt, so...what is the canon ending? Because different endings completely change the entirety of james character and how he digest the silent hill experience, so there must be a canon one that determine who this guy really is.

Spoiler

dude goes from not being able to live anymore, to trying to revive mary, to going away with laura, to not learning anything from the sh experience and going out with maria and being a creepy asshole that is probably gonna kill her when the cough at the end is gonna get worse and he is gonna repeat the cycle

In the original, it's all of them (or any of them) according to Ito. Since there's never been a sequel or, to my knowledge, a proper reference in other games it's up to your own preferences on what James does at the end.

Spoiler: Twitter pic

Edit: To add, Ito's response doesn't have to be seen as him copping out of answering either. You could read it as, James is absolutely stuck in Silent Hill's loop and no matter what he does he winds up cycling back to that bathroom at the start of the game forcing him to repeatedly deal with and come to terms with what happened. It's his punishment.

 

[tommib]

In the original, it's all of them (or any of them) according to Ito. Since there's never been a sequel or, to my knowledge, a proper reference in other games it's up to your own preferences on what James does at the end.

Spoiler: Twitter pic

Edit: To add, Ito's response doesn't have to be seen as him copping out of answering either. You could read it as, James is absolutely stuck in Silent Hill's loop and no matter what he does he winds up cycling back to that bathroom at the start of the game forcing him to repeatedly deal with and come to terms with what happened. It's his punishment.

The more I read about the eternal punishment of James the more I’m sure Krueger was inspired by SH2 in Returnal. They’re mirror narratives in some way.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Finished it after 16 hours. I never played the original, so I don’t have any nostalgia or sentimental attachment to the game. That being said, I really enjoyed it. The atmosphere is top-notch, the cutscenes are great, and the gameplay loop kept me hooked. However, after the fight with Eddie and the Jail section, I started feeling like I was ready for it to wrap up. I kept going because I wanted to finish, but overall, I think the game dragged on a bit too long—especially after reading that the original was much shorter.

I would give it a 7-8/10

It took me 25 hours to complete the remake, and I knew the original very well, so I knew what to do. It seems to me that you just rushed through the game.

 

[shubik]

It took me 25 hours to complete the remake, and I knew the original very well, so I knew what to do. It seems to me that you just rushed through the game.

Sure I did. I was done with the game after 10-12 hours and everything after that felt a little bit like a slog. Its just too long for what it is in my opinion.

 

[Arsic]

In the original, it's all of them (or any of them) according to Ito. Since there's never been a sequel or, to my knowledge, a proper reference in other games it's up to your own preferences on what James does at the end.

Spoiler: Twitter pic

Edit: To add, Ito's response doesn't have to be seen as him copping out of answering either. You could read it as, James is absolutely stuck in Silent Hill's loop and no matter what he does he winds up cycling back to that bathroom at the start of the game forcing him to repeatedly deal with and come to terms with what happened. It's his punishment.

Oh please. That means the dog is also canon and so is the aliens one.

Stop throating the devs on this one.

If he meant only the base 3 that would be fine but it isn’t.

If all are canon it actually ruins the narrative entirely because of the dog and alien goofball endings.

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah i don't like the open ending when it's done like this, what you do in the game to obtain these endings is too abstract to make actual sense, like i had no idea why i had the water ending, it's not like i had to do specific ingame choices to get that ending, it was just a series of random stuff giving you random points for an ending or another, i read countless of people following a guide to get a specific ending just to get a different one,that's how finnicky the system is, it's not like an rpg with choices where you build your ending by making actual important choices and you know what type of ending you are building, my ingame james didn't really chose to die more than another playing the game normally and just getting a different ending, it doesn't feel earned for lack of better words.

Spoiler

Choosing to stay on red health or heal frequently is 100% ingame stuff, it should have no weight in what ending you get, it's not like you heal because you think that james want to live or not, you heal or save heals to manage resources or even because of a skill problem, definitely not something that should change an ending, and my james was constantly at full health or slightly worse, it was in red health for like 10 min in 30 hours so even salt to the injury...

I don't particularly like a system when you have to watch a guide to get a specific ending, it is not organic at all, but i guess this is another discussion entirely.


Also like someone else said, some of the endings are too goofy and completely ruin the whole plot if they can be considered canon.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Oh please. That means the dog is also canon and so is the aliens one.

Stop throating the devs on this one.

If he meant only the base 3 that would be fine but it isn’t.

If all are canon it actually ruins the narrative entirely because of the dog and alien goofball endings.

That's the madness of it all. As humans, we are programmed to rely on a specific ending, programmed for closure. The devs have the game's madness creep out to the real world, where we are feeling unsettled since the human psyche wants a resolute conclusion, in everything we do. When we are told they're all canon, it drives us mad.

It also creates various perspectives depending on the person and how the game impacted them as they played. Where you get discussions about why (said ending) is the right one (to them, really) versus someone else's choice in ending that resonated more to them as their canon. Welcome to the timeless loop of Silent Hill 2, 23+ years later, even post story completion. The discussions and newfound theories will never end.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

The more I read about the eternal punishment of James the more I’m sure Krueger was inspired by SH2 in Returnal. They’re mirror narratives in some way.

Returnal was majorly Silent Hill-ish. Instantly picked up on it and loved that about it. People underestimate how eerie and oppressive that game is as well. I still think the somewhat goofy cover art did it a disservice. It should've been marketed a lot "darker".

 

[ssringo]

Yeah i don't like the open ending when it's done like this, what you do in the game to obtain these endings is too abstract to make actual sense, like i had no idea why i had the water ending, it's not like i had to do specific ingame choices to get that ending, it was just a series of random stuff giving you random points for an ending or another, i read countless of people following a guide to get a specific ending just to get a different one,that's how finnicky the system is, it's not like an rpg with choices where you build your ending by making actual important choices and you know what type of ending you are building, my ingame james didn't really chose to die more than another playing the game normally and just getting a different ending, it doesn't feel earned for lack of better words.

Choosing to stay on red health or heal frequently is 100% ingame stuff, it should have no weight in what ending you get, it's not like you heal because you think that james want to live or not, you heal or save heals to manage resources or even because of a skill problem, definitely not something that should change an ending, and my james was constantly at full health or slightly worse, it was in red health for like 10 min in 30 hours so even salt to the injury...

I don't mind it (I actually like it) but I'll agree that it is a bit too obtuse on obtaining a specific ending. I understand the logic they were going for though.

Spoiler: Actions that can affect the ending

If James isn't keeping his health up = he's not taking care of himself. Looking at Mary's picture/letter = he can't let go of her. Staying close to Maria = cares for Maria. Running into Maria = doesn't care about Maria.

Etc. It just doesn't quite hit the mark for some people and as you said, you can get fucked over when trying for a specific ending because you did one action or another a bit too much.

Also like someone else said, some of the endings are too goofy and completely ruin the whole plot if they can be considered canon.

It's that particular developer's view but that doesn't mean it's canon; it's just his personal view. My take on his view was just one way to look at it. I know some people have entertained the idea that the missing person that Douglas from Silent Hill 3 was investigating was James. Neat idea but it's all fan speculation.

Perhaps if Bloober keeps making Silent Hill games they'll give an answer but ultimately it's up to the individual on what they think James would do at the end of the story. Or accepting that what happened at the end of their playthrough was what actually happened.

 

[Arsic]

That's the madness of it all. As humans, we are programmed to rely on a specific ending, programmed for closure. The devs have the game's madness creep out to the real world, where we are feeling unsettled since the human psyche wants a resolute conclusion, in everything we do. When we are told they're all canon, it drives us mad.

It also creates various perspectives depending on the person and how the game impacted them as they played. Where you get discussions about why (said ending) is the right one (to them, really) versus someone else's choice in ending that resonated more to them as their canon. Welcome to the timeless loop of Silent Hill 2, 23+ years later, even post story completion. The discussions and newfound theories will never end.

If anyone believes the dog and alien endings are canon then this game went from an 11/10 to me to a joke tier 2/10.

So no, the devs are just huffing their own farts to seem “deep”, when really they are too scared to drive their own narrative to a satisfying conclusion.

This isn’t evangelion bro. It ain’t that deep.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If anyone believes the dog and alien endings are canon then this game went from an 11/10 to me to a joke tier 2/10.

So no, the devs are just huffing their own farts to seem “deep”, when really they are too scared to drive their own narrative to a satisfying conclusion.

This isn’t evangelion bro. It ain’t that deep.

You are taking this way too seriously. They can have fun trolling endings as well for their own entertainment as creators.

Look at you. Big mad over no definitive conclusion, no closure. They've succeeded.

 

[GymWolf]

Sorry D. Enema, but i also think it's very strange at best and pretentious bullshit at worse, i'm not mad but not having a canon ending really undermine the whole story and james character to me, you people are free to like an extremely bleak game ending with a dog or an alien or with super wildly different endings that completely change his character, i prefer the classic way of 99,99% of stories where the author has the balls to have a definitive ending even if it is not gonna make everyone happy.

Thank god jaws doesn't have an ending where the trio and the shark start a texas poker match to decide who lives and who dies

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sorry D. Enema, but i also think it's very strange at best and pretentious bullshit at worse

Show some respect. I never once clowned on you over a fucking videogame disagreement. Get out your feelings. Welcome to 23+ years of SH2.

 

[GymWolf]

Show some respect. I never once clowned on you over a fucking videogame disagreement. Get out your feelings. Welcome to 23+ years of SH2.

What? Dude i called you that way some times for joke purpose in the past and i'm pretty sure you laughed...i wasn't being serious or offensive, you like different endings, i like canon ending, it's all ok, it was just a nickname joke

How can you even think that i was clowning you for such a stupid reason, i thought you knew me a little buddy

 

[Chuck Berry]

Thank god jaws doesn't have an ending where the trio and the shark start a texas poker match to decide who lives and who dies

This sounds fantastic. Way better than Jaws The Revenge at least.

"Can never trust a shark with cards, it's in the eyes. Lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eye."

 

[DeepEnigma]

What? Dude i called you that way some times for joke purpose in the past and i'm pretty sure you laughed...i wasn't being serious or offensive, you like different endings, i like canon ending, it's all ok, it was just a nickname joke

How can you even think that i was clowning you for such a stupid reason, i thought you knew me a little buddy

I'm trying to create your own personal hell.

 

[Arsic]

You are taking this way too seriously. They can have fun trolling endings as well for their own entertainment as creators.

Look at you. Big mad over no definitive conclusion, no closure. They've succeeded.

Bruh. I said if they had gone down with saying the 3 base game endings are all canon, then it makes sense and is fine.

However, once you say dog or alien is also canon… that completely destroys the narrative.

“Pick the one you think is canon then” doesn’t work here— dev says they are ALL canon.

This is an instance where the dev is being a retard for fart huffing reasons.

I ain’t big mad. It just come off idiotic to include the two clearly joke endings as canon.

 

[GymWolf]

I'm trying to create your own personal hell.

I'm genuinely offended that you thought i was being serious.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm genuinely offended that you thought i was being serious.

Bruh. I said if they had gone down with saying the 3 base game endings are all canon, then it makes sense and is fine.

However, once you say dog or alien is also canon… that completely destroys the narrative.

“Pick the one you think is canon then” doesn’t work here— dev says they are ALL canon.

This is an instance where the dev is being a retard for fart huffing reasons.

I ain’t big mad. It just come off idiotic to include the two clearly joke endings as canon.

Ah okay, I see what you're saying now. I don't really think they mean the joke endings are canon, unless the wackiness of Silent Hill does have a dark sense of humor as well.

 

[M1chl]

Incredible game

Spent my sweet time with it, around 25 hours clocked on Steam, got in the water ending.

Probably my GotY and I am getting slightly sad, that these games, they don't really make them anymore.

Props to Blooper, but if you played their games, you know that they are probably only team who could pull this off. The Silent Hill vibes were always present in their games.


easy 10/10