RadioHeadAche
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You meet him in the hospital. He doesn't appear in the ending if you miss that sidequest, though.
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You meet him in the hospital. He doesn't appear in the ending if you miss that sidequest, though.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Kaufmann appears in every playthrough. He's the guy you meet at the hospital, in the room with the dead air screamer.
RadioHeadAche
Member
It's eerie to think about what happens to him if you see him in the ending. That scream is pretty memorable.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Yeah, that ending was kinda fucked up. But he deserved it.
Gametrailers review
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-silent-hill/728715
haha
well deserved
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-silent-hill/728715
haha
well deserved
6.0
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Slash two points from the score, and we're talking.
Just watched the part where they talked about the controls. Sounds like they didn't know about the superior 2D control option... unless they removed that from this collection, too!
The perfect Dark
Banned
I thought it was a butchered collection on both platforms? Are you saying the fog actually exists on the Xbox? Everything I've read made it sound like both versions are not good and that the PS3 version has additional glitches and slowdowns?!
The perfect Dark
Banned
The 360 version runs absolutely fine. There seems to be less fog and sometimes the water is really ugly but that's it. I had no audio bugs, no stuttering, no slowdowns and no audio bugs on BOTH of the games.
The Ps3 Version...well...doesn't run very good.
The Ps3 Version...well...doesn't run very good.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
The ports are bad on both PS3 and 360, but the 360 version generally has much smoother and better framerate than the PS3 version.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Which is funny because that's the platform for which it was originally announced.
Oh wait, that's not funny at all.
Okay, then I remembered correctly. Still too crappy for me to buy this. Everything I've seen just screams "Please don't reward them for releasing this... please don't!".
The perfect Dark
Banned
Well these games look great in HD. It's your decision but in my opinion everyone is overexaggerating on this collection. Except for the water (and maybe! the fog) you won't notice any differences.
Just don't buy the Ps3 Version.
Just don't buy the Ps3 Version.
am i the only one who prefers the regular 3d tank controls in these games haha
the 2d controls are great in theory but with the camera angle constantly changing it gets fucking annoying to have to suddenly switch what direction you're holding
i guess i'm just used to it from playing resident evil so much, but i always stick with tank controls
the 2d controls are great in theory but with the camera angle constantly changing it gets fucking annoying to have to suddenly switch what direction you're holding
i guess i'm just used to it from playing resident evil so much, but i always stick with tank controls
Watched the Gametrailers review this morning...
I remember everyone losing their shit when the voices were to change. It seems to have turned out to be the least of the game's problems...
I'm pretty sure I'm still going to buy it... because it's still a better option than playing my PS2 copies on my non-BC PS3.
However... spending $50 on a second-hand PS2 may still be the best investment...
I remember everyone losing their shit when the voices were to change. It seems to have turned out to be the least of the game's problems...
I'm pretty sure I'm still going to buy it... because it's still a better option than playing my PS2 copies on my non-BC PS3.
However... spending $50 on a second-hand PS2 may still be the best investment...
No, I also prefer 3D controls. 2D controls annoys me in games where camera can switch direction at any time.
Typographenia
Member
ok good haha
i CONSTANTLY see people talk about silent hill 2d controls, or even just suggesting that resident evil adopt those controls if they go back to fixed camea angles
i dont understand how the switching camera angles doesnt drive them fucking crazy. its so awkward
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
3D controls in Silent Hill games are like playing MMORPGs with a plastic guitar controller. 2D controls 4 lyf!
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
wow i totally brain farted and thought D3D = an nvidia tool.
thanks, will try when i get home. i take it SH3 isn't opengl, yeah?
edit: file removed.
.Finished with the Maria ending. First time I saw that one. The line at the end was unexpectedly and likely unintentionally hilarious.
I tried the '2D' controls this time and frankly, I hate them. They just don't work with a game of this type and the constantly switching angles made it hugely disorienting. I know that you can just hold the direction to keep moving after a switch but there are times where that just doesn't work, and makes certain tight, narrow passages a huge pain in the ass. This game really needs to be played with traditional 3D 'tank controls.'
Google is your friend.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163
D3D overrider is a separate program in Rivatuner.
Those hideous road textures are pretty noticeable, too.
kunonabi
Member
I also prefer 3d tank controls. 2D controls are completely unplayable when dealing with fixed camera angles.
I don't consider SH's combat all that clunky. Considering when it was released if fairly progressive with its 180 turns, strafing, back step, and moving and shooting.
It wasn't Bayonetta but it didn't really need to be.
RadioHeadAche
Member
2D controls help a lot with the hospital chase scene on the hard difficulty in Silent Hill 2.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
yeah I was at work and my internet use is limited. I'm posting from my phone and its a pain looking for it on here. found it when i got home and made a sh3 profile. turned it on, set ccc to force vsync and ran fov tool.
fixes frame rate and tearing!!! ....but makes certain effects behave strangley. ie: when you're set title screen it's supposed to fade out, but instead the screen looks like it got sliced diagonally from corner to corner and the two pieces are sliding apart. lol
so I'm in good shape now, thanks for the help. does anyone know yet if konami has publicly acknowledged the issues with this game? or even the dev?
Broder Salsa
Banned
Well gametrailers claimed there was no radio in downpour too, seems like they aren't exactly interested in going very deep with any of their shit reviews.
Futurevoid
Member
Silent Hill 3 PC is so boss. I've been wanting to replay the game for awhile now and started to on the PS2 but didn't have a chance to get back to it. I finally dug out the PC version and installed it with the FOV tool at 1080p and it runs beautifully and looks amazing.
It's too bad I can't get Silent Hill 2 to run at the same level. The flashing block nonsense is irking me.
It's too bad I can't get Silent Hill 2 to run at the same level. The flashing block nonsense is irking me.
corrosivefrost
Member
I'm too lazy to search this thread since the game first came out... there was talk of patching the PS3 version to fix the performance issues; do we have any update on that?
There was a 297mb patch that came out, apparently that didn't fix any of the issues.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Alright guys, I need some advice if you've got the time.
I've never owned any of the SH games but I've always found the series to be somewhat interesting and I've always wanted to jump in somewhere. Obviously this HD collection would have been a great place to start if it had been decent but it seems like that decision isn't quite so clear anymore.
So here's my question:
Should I pick up Shattered Memories for the Wii, the HD collection, or something else? I don't really want to play the original games on PS2, so I'd like to keep it to the PS3, PSP, or Wii.
I've never owned any of the SH games but I've always found the series to be somewhat interesting and I've always wanted to jump in somewhere. Obviously this HD collection would have been a great place to start if it had been decent but it seems like that decision isn't quite so clear anymore.
So here's my question:
Should I pick up Shattered Memories for the Wii, the HD collection, or something else? I don't really want to play the original games on PS2, so I'd like to keep it to the PS3, PSP, or Wii.
Silent Hill 1-3 are really the best in the series. Shattered Memories is worth playing but doesn't really represent Silent Hill very well.
Honestly, the PS2 really *IS* the very best option. If you really don't want to go that route I suppose the HD Collection could still work. You could always try Silent Hill 1 on PSX but it looks REALLY dated now.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Buy the HD collection
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Hmm... well for one I don't have my PS2 anymore and my BC PS3 is dead so that makes the PS2 option kind of difficult. I'd also imagine it would look like complete garbage on my TV (but maybe not as garbage as the HD collection
).Uh, it seems like there aren't really any good options for me, just a bunch of kind of good ones.
Yeah, that's pretty much right.Hmm... well for one I don't have my PS2 anymore and my BC PS3 is dead so that makes the PS2 option kind of difficult. I'd also imagine it would look like complete garbage on my TV (but maybe not as garbage as the HD collection
Uh, it seems like there aren't really any good options for me, just a bunch of kind of good ones.
It's true that PS2 wouldn't look great on your TV as most TVs do a very poor job with Silent Hill to begin with. If you're using an LCD prepare for lots of backlight viewing.
Still, in your case, I suppose playing the HD Collection while understanding that the glitches and oddities you might encounter are flaws in the port.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
My TV is a Panasonic Plasma (G20) so it wouldn't be as bad as an LCD but it still wouldn't be pretty and I hate not having a widescreen option. Maybe I'll pick up the collection sometime when it hits $20 or so.
Thanks for the help.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
If those are your options, then go for the HD collection. The ports aren't particularly great, but it's better than never playing SH2 and 3 at all. Also, SH1 is available on PSN. Get that too.
Hmm, actually, the PS2 looks pretty decent on a Panny. It's surprisingly clean and the SH games didn't use field rendering so they appear sharp enough. The lack of widescreen sucks but it could still be manageable.
What about the PC versions? I think SH2 is pretty rubbish on PC but Silent Hill 3 has an awesome port.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The video review I've seen of X360 version sure doesn't make it look good at all. It's basically the same exact crap as the PS3 version, just with somewhat smoother framerate. "Less fog"? Don't pander to crap - it's more like 75% of it is removed, sometimes to a hilarious effect.
SH2 has hard edge shadows on PC, that alone makes it look really bad in comparison.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Oh wow, I completely forgot about the PC ports. I don't have a great PC but it should be good enough to run these games. I'll look into that option.
If I had a PS2 already I would probably go that route but I don't know if it's worth picking one back up just for this series. I gave mine away to a friend thinking that my BC PS3 would always be around... turned out to be a pretty bad decision in the end.
corrosivefrost
Member
Edit: beaten.
RadioHeadAche
Member
While working on my 10-star rank, I was in Silent Hill following the hospital section trying to kill as many monsters as possible. While doing so, I experience a ton of slowdown and momentary freezing. This may not be a surprise, but it was happening a lot more than I remember. Plus, I saw the "footprint" loading screen after exiting the menu. The MENU.
Anyway, I got a 9.9 star rank. Why? Because that fucking boat section sucks and my thumbs can't handle that stress. It wouldn't be so bad if you had at least a minute and forty seconds to two minutes, but no. Instead, you have eighty seconds to spin those analog sticks in opposite directions of each other as fast and precise as you can.
Because trying to get through the game with two saves and under five-hundred points of damage on the hardest difficulty setting isn't difficult enough.
I could just say "fuck it" because trophies are meaningless, but my obsessive-compulsive behavior won't let it go.
Anyway, I got a 9.9 star rank. Why? Because that fucking boat section sucks and my thumbs can't handle that stress. It wouldn't be so bad if you had at least a minute and forty seconds to two minutes, but no. Instead, you have eighty seconds to spin those analog sticks in opposite directions of each other as fast and precise as you can.
Because trying to get through the game with two saves and under five-hundred points of damage on the hardest difficulty setting isn't difficult enough.
I could just say "fuck it" because trophies are meaningless, but my obsessive-compulsive behavior won't let it go.
If you have PSN+, Silent Hill 1 is one of this month's freebies.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Play it on a PSP in the dark with headphones for maximum effect.
That's how I played Silent Hill 1 and Origins. I give it my fullest endorsement.
Brutal. Make sure you toggle run/walk in the options so you're always running for the boat sequence, it makes it go faster.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Oh I know, but it's the rowing that's the actual problem. My thumbs just can't rotate the analog sticks fast enough. I've done it once, but that was a practice run so it didn't count towards the 10-star rank.
Have you made a separate save either after or before Eddie, so you can just practice that one part? I haven't attempted my 10 star run yet, so I have absolutely no idea what I'm in for.