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Silent Hill: Shattered Memories - |OT| of Not Your Father's Silent Hill
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Snapshot King
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Man, Im so stuck. Spoilers for about, I dunno, 5 hours in. I got to the
Pawn shop, met my wife? Then fell down a giant hole and am now stuck in a gigantic pitch black room that only illuminates a single chair. Where do I go? I tried searching the walls and got nothing
brandonh83
Banned
Snapshot King said:
You just search around for a bit for stuff on the floor. Can't wait for your twist-reaction :lol
I played a few hours and it hasn't really changed what i thought going in. It's not Silent Hill, it's not creepy or tense at all for me. So I'm not even sure I really want to bother continuing :/
Unrelated, I didn't expect to like Spirit Tracks after Phantom Hourglass but it's actually preeetty good! So at least one of the two games I got surprised me
Unrelated, I didn't expect to like Spirit Tracks after Phantom Hourglass but it's actually preeetty good! So at least one of the two games I got surprised me
brandonh83
Banned
Amir0x said:
The twist is worth experiencing, IMO. Plus it's really short. Really short. If you beat it, you will have spent a total of 6 hours at the absolute most of your life on it. :lol
ace harding: private eye
Member
I take great offense to that remark.slasher_thrasher21 said:
Yeah, I'm probably going to give Shattered Memories another go tonight, but man, those chases are annoying, and man, those exploring scenes are boring.Amir0x said:
That's what I've been hearing about Spirit Tracks, so I might give it a shot, even though I sold Phantom Hourglass shortly after beating the first dungeon.
Snapshot King
Member
brandonh83 said:
Well, so far, I'm worried it's going to be too similar to the film
Jacobs Ladder
bad bad ending
2 twist. =\
Haven't gotten there yet though, and yeah, I figured it out. That shit is trippy.
brandonh83
Banned
Snapshot King said:
The part you're at is the only part of the game that tried to be Silent Hill, so it was my favorite part, by far. And the twist/ending is amazing.
He's right, though. It's not SH-like, and it's not scary. And yes, you know for me it's sort of like watching a horror film, I watch/play to be scared, or at least to be totally creeped/freaked out. Which sort of goes hand in hand. It's unfortunate that this game never crosses any sort of quality threshold when it comes to fear, of any variety.
Bizzyb said:
Not scared, tense. I play all survival horror games for the atmosphere, creep factor, tension. Any good survival horror game MUST have this. The ice world is about the least interesting, least creepy, least-Silent Hill like thing ever. It's actually almost bizarrely terrible.
I didn't expect everything there to be so bland and unremarkable. It's not even like there's anything cool to see there :/
Snapshot King
Member
This is the exact, EXACT same hardcore fan reaction seen from a lot of people when RE4 came out. Deal with it.
brandonh83
Banned
Amir0x said:
This is what I keep trying to argue, the game just never offers up anything interesting to look at which is what I meant when I was saying that it has bad art direction.
RE4 made the series more fun, but the series stopped being the series at the same time. That was disappointing and that's why us hardcore RE fans (those of us who didn't like the direction) were upset. Is it really that much to ask for more of what made the series great while implementing change?
Snapshot King said:
Yeah except RE4 was excellent, and actually WAS a good game in its own right. Unlike the positive reviews suggest, I don't even think it's a particularly good game at all. The flashlight is about the only neat thing, along with the way the game uses the controller's speaker.
All the other gameplay parts are pretty fucking bad actually. The chases aren't just bad, they're fucking BORING.
I'm an honest guy. I didn't like Phantom Hourglass, spoke out against Spirit Tracks. Now I'm playing it, it's great, and I'm saying so.
If Silent Hill Shattered Memories turned out to be a decent game, I would say so. It's a terrible Silent Hill game, true, but it's an exceedingly mediocre game period.
SlasherJPC
Banned
I think if this game came out without the Silent Hill title. People would appreciate it more. Bummer.
brandonh83
Banned
:lol :lol
brandonh83
Banned
Bizzyb said:
Me too.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Bizzyb said:
Its Silent Hill. Everyone is never pleased. I like it, Brandon is dissapointed in it, Amirox hates it. :lol
brandonh83
Banned
I dislike it but I respectfully praise where the story goes. Not necessarily how it gets there, the plot overall felt largely empty and uneventful to me, but I felt that the writer had a very strong idea and I feel that they at least executed the conclusion well.
The worst part was that I was excited to play 1 vs. 100 tonight.
My 2 cents on the "why I play horror titles" thread that we seem to be on now: The esteemed Drinky Crow mentioned in a Killer7 thread once about how it was a game in the "museum game" genre that also featured titles like Shenmue and SH2, and that really got me thinking after I read that. I mentioned before that I was initially quite cold to SH2; the gameplay was pretty fucking terrible, it was hardly scary on any level and I was convinced that what good the game had achieved was undermined by the fact that it was a miserable experience getting to it. I left the game untouched for a couple of weeks while I cranked away at Ico, not expecting to get back into, perhaps ever again. I can't recall what spurred the desire to want to play it again, but I was back at it and I decided to do something differently this time: I stopped to smell the roses. Inspired largely by not wanting to engage in, well, anything related to the gameplay or progression, I just walked around Silent Hill and took in the sights. It was then that I realized that I was enjoying myself in the game this way; really enjoying it, at that. When I read that post by Drinky, it finally gave a phrase to what I had felt about SH2 when I replayed it. The concept of walking around in fully-realized world is something that appeals to me in a far greater manner than I had previously thought, and it didn't require a game to have amazing gameplay or, as often is the case for the horror genre, even good gameplay.
Incidentally, this moment of clarity also confirmed to me why I knew Super Metroid wasn't going to be topped for me, as it takes that princple and adds top-shelf gameplay to the mix.
/rambling semi-coherent musings based out of deferred rage over broken TV
My 2 cents on the "why I play horror titles" thread that we seem to be on now: The esteemed Drinky Crow mentioned in a Killer7 thread once about how it was a game in the "museum game" genre that also featured titles like Shenmue and SH2, and that really got me thinking after I read that. I mentioned before that I was initially quite cold to SH2; the gameplay was pretty fucking terrible, it was hardly scary on any level and I was convinced that what good the game had achieved was undermined by the fact that it was a miserable experience getting to it. I left the game untouched for a couple of weeks while I cranked away at Ico, not expecting to get back into, perhaps ever again. I can't recall what spurred the desire to want to play it again, but I was back at it and I decided to do something differently this time: I stopped to smell the roses. Inspired largely by not wanting to engage in, well, anything related to the gameplay or progression, I just walked around Silent Hill and took in the sights. It was then that I realized that I was enjoying myself in the game this way; really enjoying it, at that. When I read that post by Drinky, it finally gave a phrase to what I had felt about SH2 when I replayed it. The concept of walking around in fully-realized world is something that appeals to me in a far greater manner than I had previously thought, and it didn't require a game to have amazing gameplay or, as often is the case for the horror genre, even good gameplay.
Incidentally, this moment of clarity also confirmed to me why I knew Super Metroid wasn't going to be topped for me, as it takes that princple and adds top-shelf gameplay to the mix.
/rambling semi-coherent musings based out of deferred rage over broken TV
Nemesis_
Member
I would never have bought or played The Room if it didn't have the Silent Hill title. It's one of my favourite in the series for what it brings to the table in terms of back story.slasher_thrasher21 said:
But the fact you're saying it can be released with the Silent Hill title and appreciated more has me worrying even more now.
Either way, waiting for my copy to arrive. Should be here today....Damn UPS.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Nemesis556 said:
Well I say that because the hardcore SH purist will probably hate or dislike this game very much because it strays so far. I am in the minority of hardcore SH fans that thought this one was excellent. So in that respect, the hardcore purist might have found a game to enjoy had they not stacked it up against one of their favorite series.
plagiarize
Banned
So, played for hours. Got to the school. Loving pretty much every minute. Planning on doing a straight run through...
and then it glitches out on me.
I'm in a corridor in the school. I have no icon on screen. I can't aim my flash light about but i can turn it on and off. I can't run. I can't bring up my phone to save or anything. I can't hit A to interact with anything and don't get the prompt to.
I can slowly walk around, but I can't do anything at all.
so I sigh. reset the game, hoping, PRAYING that it auto saves occasionally.
it doesn't.
i will start over again another day. so so annoying.
you might consider what i'm about to write a spoiler, but honestly, I'm writing it to warn anyone from causing the same glitch I did.
when coming down the stairs in the school, and seeing the shadowy ghostly looking thing, DO NOT, i repeat do not pull out your phone to try and get a picture of it.
i did. when i put away the phone, everything was as i just described.
it's annoying because i don't know if i should do everything the same again (ie try and make all the same decisions, look at all the same stuff) or not. i was enjoying it so much too.
grargh.
my ability to cause scripting errors is unsurpassed. i should have known better and been saving.
so, that pile of crap aside i have to say this: the atmosphere is amazing. the exploration is great. i love the chases (as predicted) mainly because of how confusing the environments are and how feeble your map is in that situation.
i love making my own notes and scribbling on my own blocked streets. i love the phone stuff. i love the wii mote stuff.
i love all the side stories you find, reminds me of the Walter Sullivan stuff in SH2, but there's a lot more of it. some of it is really disturbing. what i picked up of Pigtails is really fucking freaky.
Amirox, no offense, but if you hated Phantom Hourglass, you have a very very different taste in games to me. even if we both love Windwaker so much.
and then it glitches out on me.
I'm in a corridor in the school. I have no icon on screen. I can't aim my flash light about but i can turn it on and off. I can't run. I can't bring up my phone to save or anything. I can't hit A to interact with anything and don't get the prompt to.
I can slowly walk around, but I can't do anything at all.
so I sigh. reset the game, hoping, PRAYING that it auto saves occasionally.
it doesn't.
i will start over again another day. so so annoying.
you might consider what i'm about to write a spoiler, but honestly, I'm writing it to warn anyone from causing the same glitch I did.
when coming down the stairs in the school, and seeing the shadowy ghostly looking thing, DO NOT, i repeat do not pull out your phone to try and get a picture of it.
i did. when i put away the phone, everything was as i just described.
it's annoying because i don't know if i should do everything the same again (ie try and make all the same decisions, look at all the same stuff) or not. i was enjoying it so much too.
grargh.
my ability to cause scripting errors is unsurpassed. i should have known better and been saving.
so, that pile of crap aside i have to say this: the atmosphere is amazing. the exploration is great. i love the chases (as predicted) mainly because of how confusing the environments are and how feeble your map is in that situation.
i love making my own notes and scribbling on my own blocked streets. i love the phone stuff. i love the wii mote stuff.
i love all the side stories you find, reminds me of the Walter Sullivan stuff in SH2, but there's a lot more of it. some of it is really disturbing. what i picked up of Pigtails is really fucking freaky.
Amirox, no offense, but if you hated Phantom Hourglass, you have a very very different taste in games to me. even if we both love Windwaker so much.
Snapshot King
Member
brandonh83 said:
Damn, that's a hell of a twist. Unfortunate I started to get an inkling of it being a possibility half way through. Are there multiple endings? If not, man, some analysis of that stuff is required.
GrimReaper
Member
plagiarize said:
I got the same glitch, I was pretty far in the shcool too. Opened the phone to look at some photos and got a prompt saying the data was corrupted and I got stuck just as you described. I had saved many times before, but the game just deleted my save file. I'm so pissed right now.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
I just got a the hugest shit eating grin thinking of this. I ALWAYS make a big deal about how each new protagonist writes on the map, and the thought of writing on the map myself is just a little touch that goes a loooong way with me.plagiarize said:
I will love this game :\
Coming from a die hard fan of Silent Hill since the very first game (which I bought a week after it came out from EB, only to find it had been USED and reshrinkwrapped and the disc had gunk all over it -- HOW DO YOU DO THAT TO A WEEK OLD DISC, REALLY?!), I thought it was common knowledge to NEVER EVER EVER listen to what a Silent Hill fan thinks about a new Silent Hill game.
I mean come on, to be honest, most of us are entirely stuck in the past and will NEVER get over it. So ignore what we say for the most part, and just go for it.
I mean come on, to be honest, most of us are entirely stuck in the past and will NEVER get over it. So ignore what we say for the most part, and just go for it.
Meesh
Member
It's true, the reviews are bi-polar, "oh my jezuz, good new creative direction" or "lord fuck!! what is this shit???" I'm still tempted to rent...beef3483 said:
As far as opinions go, If they have some merit, I'm easy going. Opinions make the discussion afterall, and I respect anyone who isn't out to insult another person for the sake of their thoughts...
...oh hell, I'm just going to rent it...I wanna make sure I don't like it, that way I'm not disappointed(?).
Gamepro video review Shattered Memories
http://www.gamepro.com/video/videoreviews/135364/silent-hill-shattered-memories-video-review/
1up review
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177239
Developer Climax Studios calls Silent Hill: Shattered Memories a "re-imagining" of the original Silent Hill, but that's a bit disingenuous. The only thing that ties this game to Silent Hill, the series or the game, are the characters' names, a few of the location names, and the fact that you start out by searching for your daughter. Otherwise, Shattered Memories could have been set anywhere, and called "Icy Ghost Journey." It's a good-looking game, and it makes great use of the Wii Remote, but it's not scary or challenging enough to make a real, lasting impression.
The game is very short, which speaks more to excellent pacing and a streamlined approach rather than a lack of gameplay. My first playthrough didn't take more than six hours, and I appreciate how Shattered Memories abandons fetch quests (a staple of other Silent Hill games). But the few puzzles the game contains are childishly simple.
Throwing enemies off when they jump on you involves jerking your remote and Nunchuk as if you were actually trying to cast the them off of you. But it usually takes several throws to get even one enemy tossed, and they gang up and surround you very quickly. Pair that with the fact that it's too easy to get lost in the game's frozen, nightmare sections, and it just sets you up to die over and over again, in frustrating succession, until you've learned the path the game wants you to take.
Altogether, Shattered Memories presents something that will drive away Silent Hill veterans, who could care less about the plot that completely redefines what Silent Hill is, while newcomers will find a confusing, muddled tale with frustrating chase sequences. It's praiseworthy that Climax tried to take the franchise in a new direction and created such a beautiful world, but Shattered Memories' faults stand out too starkly. If the developer had tried to keep anything from Silent Hill, they should have ditched the faux plot relationship to past games and gone after what makes Silent Hill truly unique: the psychological scares.
http://www.gamepro.com/video/videoreviews/135364/silent-hill-shattered-memories-video-review/
1up review
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177239
Developer Climax Studios calls Silent Hill: Shattered Memories a "re-imagining" of the original Silent Hill, but that's a bit disingenuous. The only thing that ties this game to Silent Hill, the series or the game, are the characters' names, a few of the location names, and the fact that you start out by searching for your daughter. Otherwise, Shattered Memories could have been set anywhere, and called "Icy Ghost Journey." It's a good-looking game, and it makes great use of the Wii Remote, but it's not scary or challenging enough to make a real, lasting impression.
The game is very short, which speaks more to excellent pacing and a streamlined approach rather than a lack of gameplay. My first playthrough didn't take more than six hours, and I appreciate how Shattered Memories abandons fetch quests (a staple of other Silent Hill games). But the few puzzles the game contains are childishly simple.
Throwing enemies off when they jump on you involves jerking your remote and Nunchuk as if you were actually trying to cast the them off of you. But it usually takes several throws to get even one enemy tossed, and they gang up and surround you very quickly. Pair that with the fact that it's too easy to get lost in the game's frozen, nightmare sections, and it just sets you up to die over and over again, in frustrating succession, until you've learned the path the game wants you to take.
Altogether, Shattered Memories presents something that will drive away Silent Hill veterans, who could care less about the plot that completely redefines what Silent Hill is, while newcomers will find a confusing, muddled tale with frustrating chase sequences. It's praiseworthy that Climax tried to take the franchise in a new direction and created such a beautiful world, but Shattered Memories' faults stand out too starkly. If the developer had tried to keep anything from Silent Hill, they should have ditched the faux plot relationship to past games and gone after what makes Silent Hill truly unique: the psychological scares.
plagiarize said:
Zelda is one of my favorite franchises. My taste is to not be insulted by preschooler difficulty, mediocre dungeons and puzzles, and bosses so easy they go down in literal seconds.
Spirit Tracks is everything PH should have been. But, that's definitely a topic for another thread. Like the Spirit Tracks thread! Go go go!
Evilink said:
You should try it out, some people like it, some people don't... I don't see how my opinion should be the end-all-be-all. It is for me because it's my opinion, but you might have a different experience.
Personally, I am shocked at the ice world. I knew it wasn't going to be appealing as industrial rust, and I knew the game wasn't going to have any of that strong Silent Hill atmosphere. But it goes beyond my fears: the ice world is devoid of any curiosities, making for exceedingly boring spans of time in this game. It's not even very fun to explore because it's so uninteresting.
The chase sequences are just fucking terrible. I'm not sure who thought that was a good idea. It is worse than any Silent Hill combat. Maybe even worse than all Silent Hill combat combined. That's not even hyperbole. The first time it happens you sorta try to pump yourself up to get yourself into it. Like "OH SHIT HERE SOMETIME COMES I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE" but then the game reveals immediately just how predictable and inflexible it is, and then everything starts becoming routine, and then it goes immediately to rolling your eyes every time it happens.
And most of these issues have nothing to do with it being a bad Silent Hill game. That affects me as a fan, sure, but the issues have to do with bad game design period.
Gamesradar review
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/silen.../a-2009120893944270045/g-20090406122311501091
7/10
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/silen.../a-2009120893944270045/g-20090406122311501091
Gamesradar US said:
7/10
plagiarize
Banned
i didn't get a prompt but i feel your pain. didn't want it to happen to anyone else. sorry to hear you got stung too... which is a shame because i'm definately one of the people that really enjoy the game.GrimReaper said:
the chase sequences seem to be the most devisive. i love the panic. i love the 'oh shit where the hell am i supposed to go' feeling. i love running for my life. i think they're scary and fun.
so it's that type of situation where selfishly i'm really happy about them, but clearly they're going to get in the way for a lot of people who other wise (or with something else) would have enjoyed the game more.
edit: also doesn't boot on any version of Dolphin I have currently. will look into it more another time.
plagiarize
Banned
i didn't experience any.Nemesis556 said:
plagiarize
Banned
yep. completely clearly.Nemesis556 said: