illmatic22
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X-2 ending was definitely hype AF. But then The Last Stand happened.
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Simon Kinberg in talks to direct X-Men Dark Phoenix saga movie
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Probably most, if not all, of Singer's first two movies. Probably little or none of X3. Maybe some future X-Men movies, like this one, will flesh out those gaps. Maybe not.
Nowhere. It's gone. Every X-Men movie released before Days of Future Past is in the old timeline, which was erased (the lone exception being First Class, which was set in the 60s, before any time travel occurs).
Right, it leads into the dark future seen in DOFP, which is erased - along with the rest of the timeline - by the end of that movie.
Sho_Nuff82
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The actual Dark Phoenix saga is a space opera that at minimum involves the Hellfire Club, Sinister, and The Shiar. The attempt at a space opera (if the Supernova rumors are true) carries a $150 million price tag these days.
I'm imagining a Raid-style visceral action film with Sinister in the background pulling the strings. Perfect time to recast Wolverine. Focus on heroes and villains with CQC skills. Go for a hard R again. Finally give us a Wolverine vs Sabretooth fight that's actually good. Cast some Mutant redshirts to get wrecked by the Reavers. Make Gambit morally ambiguous. Recast Rogue with actual superpowers. Make Storm great again.
All those Xmen are a known quantity, but it doesn't even need to be an Xmen movie, make it the X-factor movie featuring Wolverine for all I care.
Sinister isn't involved in the Dark Phoenix Saga. And the Hellfire Club won't be in the cinematic version, since they already used it earlier.
They'll have to introduce some new elements for the next installment, of course; that's always the case. But I don't see how DPS would be easier to do. Not to mention, they already set up Jean as Phoenix.
Thanks for the explanation guys. It's making more sense to me now.
And should I just throw away Wolverine Origins like it never happened I guess.
For me one of the greatest Colossus moments ever was "punching" Proteus, which also happens to be one of my favorite stories and I would love to see live, but not from these creative teams they would ruin it, plus it would be expensive as all hell considering Kevin's reality bending and the ways he uses it.
What about him snapping Riptide's neck?
Just_myles
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Fox, if you're not going to do it right, please don't do it.
Phoenix has too many moving pieces, they should go low and slow. Maybe a nice Brood story? X-men do have other enemies other than other mutants and the government.
Dark Phoenix is not really that complicated. It's centered on one character.
The Brood onscreen would probably be too blatant an Alien knockoff.
Reading his history in Hollywood this sounds like a terrible idea. He's been the writer of the worst movies in the xmen series (last stand and apocalypse) and all his other movies are just terrible.
Seems to be the definition of failing upward and based on his output, seems absolutely talentless.
Edit: Looks like he got where he was because his father was a producer in Hollywood. Makes a lot more sense now.
Seems to be the definition of failing upward and based on his output, seems absolutely talentless.
Edit: Looks like he got where he was because his father was a producer in Hollywood. Makes a lot more sense now.
One character's journey. People forget it had hell of a leadup. The X-men movies been shit if your name is not Xavier, Wolverine, or Magneto.
An alien ripoff with people that shoot lasers out their eyes.
Also nice. Most of his best fighting moments are having to kill even though Peter is normally opposed to it.
I would kill for a Brood epic, one of my favorite enemies from the Claremont era. Plus any excuse to get the Starjammers on screen works for me.
Still run into the same issue as always where I am not sure I trust the people making these movies. Even the good X-Men films usually seem to miss the point of stuff they adapt.
darkhunger
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If people still cared about X-Men there would be more outrage over this guy. But I guess people don't.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
this does not bode well.
Agreed, his heel turn should have been horrible and was during what I would consider a crap period but him joining Mags at that point made sense.
Also hated that his life granted by the Seige Perilous was ruined.
Rice-Eater
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If they're going to do it then can't they just stretch the Phoenix Saga to 2 movies? Never read the comic books but just coming from the cartoon I don't see how they can condense all of that into a 2 hour movie if they actually give us the space opera that we really want.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Pls don't let him be the director, pls
I don't know if throwing him into such a huge production is a good move, but I'm sure he's been on set heavily during all of these movies so he probably knows how massive of a thing it actually is.
I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt as a director as they have no past experience. If its complete shit, he loses my faith going forward.
I'm willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt as a director as they have no past experience. If its complete shit, he loses my faith going forward.
mariachi507
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This franchise could really use some fresh blood. No disrespect to Kinberg, but I hope he makes his debut elsewhere.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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I'm one of the few who enjoyed Apocalypse, flaws and all, and I love the team that we saw at the end but I don't know about this. A blockbuster of this type should never be a directorial debut. Look at what happened with the first Flash director. And no matter how they chose to approach the Dark Phoenix storyline, it's probably a lose / lose situation.
I hope they pick a more experienced director because I really like the current direction (or lack thereof) of the X-Men franchise.
I hope they pick a more experienced director because I really like the current direction (or lack thereof) of the X-Men franchise.
SomedayTheFire
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God I forgot they introduced Phoenix in Apocalypse. What a disaster that was. She had fuck all meaningful screen time before that.
catashtrophe
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As a big X-men movie fan this hurts :-(
Last stand was ass and Apocalypse was a big disappointment (outside of a few good scenes) and Kinberg was involved in both of those
He needs to get away from the X-men franchise and get some fresh blood in there
Last stand was ass and Apocalypse was a big disappointment (outside of a few good scenes) and Kinberg was involved in both of those
He needs to get away from the X-men franchise and get some fresh blood in there
Fancyarcher
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Yeah, this is not happening, and even if it's not exactly a good idea to give a big-budgeted film to a first-time director, even if he is a screen-writer. C'mon Fox.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
What's worrisome to me is that he is directing his own script too. So there isn't an experienced director to say "Hey, this doesn't really work for the story we're telling." This is like the cocktail for another Fantastic Four 2015 situation.
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These x-men movies will be forever shit.
Should have known singer wasnt going to step away unless he could keep his shitty idea of x-men alive through someone else.
Hes stepping away to make sure the next x-men movie is horrible, so that he can come back and give us his mediocre x-men movies and people soak it up.
Fuck that guy.
Should have known singer wasnt going to step away unless he could keep his shitty idea of x-men alive through someone else.
Hes stepping away to make sure the next x-men movie is horrible, so that he can come back and give us his mediocre x-men movies and people soak it up.
Fuck that guy.
Guess who produced that turd.
Spikematic
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Worst opinion I've read in a long while.
SomedayTheFire
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I can't really separate them. Mostly because I can't remember either of them. Two awful awful films. I think Apocalypse might be worse simply because it's 45 minutes longer and that's more of my time wasted on that shite.
#itsallconnected
And wrote it, too! :lol
thehypocrite
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And took over direction of the reshoots.
I liked how it was no big deal for her to unleash the Phoenix and then just go "alright then".
I love picking out the Kate Mara horrible wig shots
Glass Rebel
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This is fucking disgusting.
I have my issues with Singer but he directed two fairly competent movies in X2 and DOFP. X1 is kinda middling these days but its historical impact is undeniable. Apocalypse was a turd but he only shares the blame with Kinberg on that.
This couldn't be more of a monkey's paw situation smfh.
I have my issues with Singer but he directed two fairly competent movies in X2 and DOFP. X1 is kinda middling these days but its historical impact is undeniable. Apocalypse was a turd but he only shares the blame with Kinberg on that.
This couldn't be more of a monkey's paw situation smfh.
You forgot Deadpool & First Class.
SamuelSupreme
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Its like Fox takes one giant leap forward with these movies...only to take several steps back...like why?
thehypocrite
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Lol, it was incredibad.
What leap? Honestly
I want to see the original cut
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