Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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GrotesqueBeauty
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Eh, having seen how things panned out for the last few Zelda games I already expect scores to be inflated and for glaring design issues to be glossed over in reviews. I'm just praying it's a better all around package than the poorly paced and piss easy WW and TP.ShockingAlberto said:
TheCongressman1
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This talk of easiness is worrying me a bit, I have to admit...
I was worried about that. I almost want to stop playing Nintendo games period now. If Nintendo wants every game to focus on getting new fans while ignoring the needs of existing ones, Why not let them only have those new fans? I wasn't expecting a challenge, but easier than TP is unacceptable. I'll buy it at full price because I want the CD, but I'm selling it the day I beat it.Kard8p3 said:
It makes you feel justified in your purchase. $50 to $60 is a lot of money to spend on something that gets "mediocre" reviews. Granted, you could still not like the game that gets excellent reviews. But until you get the game to play it for yourself, that's one of the few ways to get that feeling of contentment. That you spent your hard earned money wisely.wrowa said:
Of course, there are extremes to this, like getting pissed that a game didn't score a 9 or 10, but was scored a "terrible" 8.
Yoshichan said:
Nowadays it's more like this:
10 AMAZING GOTYAYEY OMGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
09 Eh, I'll give it a shot.
08 Shit.
07 Trash.
06 Head lice.
05 Giraffe vomit.
04 I wish dinosaurs were alive to kill me so I don't have to experience this game.
03 The ice age was much cooler than this game will ever be.
02 What the fuck did they think they were making?
01 *instert favorite meme here*
00 Before primordial ooze existed.
BertramCooper
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Other than the bosses, I didn't find Twilight Princess all that easy. Quite a few of the dungeons - most notably Snowpeak - were quite devious.
Game difficulty is relative.
Game difficulty is relative.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Their glaring flaws were most certainly glossed over in the vast majority of reviews. Quite a few reviews even hyped them up as the best in the series, turning a blind eye to a myriad of questionable design choices. Even the critical reviews tended to focus in on trivial complaints while overlooking much larger overarching structural issues.Big One said:
Lol! You're nuts. OoT on my 20th play-through would put up more of a fight than TP did on my first. The only difficulty I had in TP was finding the will power to finish the game every time it started dragging. And man, did it drag.Big One said:
BTW, only ONM says that Skyward Sword is easy (NOT PARTICULARLY EASY, even). Every other sites with a preview has said that Skyward Sword was a bit of challenge. IGN did go as far to say that you WILL need your 6 hearts.
Why should we believe ONM more than any other previews/reviews?
Why should we believe ONM more than any other previews/reviews?
IceDoesntHelp
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Holy shit, you are serious. You're insane.BurntPork said:
I can't believe you're going crazy over one person's opinion.
But if Skyward Sword turned out to be the best game ever, it would matter?
TheCongressman1
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I never wanted it to be brutally hard, I just want a bit more challenge than TP.
It is odd to have such mixed opinions on this. I do remember several previews have said that it was more challenging than past games. Why are these guys finding it so easy? Maybe they just aren't remembering the other games correctly? Maybe they just had a really rough time with TP for whatever reason?
It is odd to have such mixed opinions on this. I do remember several previews have said that it was more challenging than past games. Why are these guys finding it so easy? Maybe they just aren't remembering the other games correctly? Maybe they just had a really rough time with TP for whatever reason?
Crumpet Trumpet
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OoT/MM/WW/TP were the perfect difficulty for me. So I don't really care where SS ends up in the spectrum.
picklecannon
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Kard8p3 said:
Yep. The only thing I noticed about n64+ era zelda games is there are hardly any monsters that deal multiple hearts of damage to you. Also bottled fairies, but I never minded the difficulty, it was fun solving puzzles and finding hidden heart containers.
GrotesqueBeauty
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No one said OoT was super tough, but it's a damn sight more challenging than WW or TP. It's embarrassing this point is even up for debate. WW was the game that started the whole thing with enemies that routinely take 1/4 heart damage and then fart out 3 heart refills when you beat them. Then Twilight Princess took that awful balancing and ran with it.Ragus said:
edit: And the internally developed 2D Zelda games are all waaaaaaaay more challenging than the 3D iterations. LttP is my personal sweet spot for difficulty in a Zelda game.
? I thought the problem was that ONM said the difficulty was easier than these games. Which meant that the people who have a problem have already "dealt" with it in those past games, but were hoping for a more challenging time with Skyward Sword.Ragus said:
Oh, and Zelda 2 says hi and laughs at Ninja Gaiden-like difficulty.
Cerebral Assassin
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GrotesqueBeauty said:
OOT was far easier than TP, I can't think of a single puzzle that fazed me for too long, was OOT your 1st Zelda?
RPGCrazied
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Does the review say anything about number of dungeons? Still don't know about that. I think 4 has been shown so far?
GrotesqueBeauty
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Adjectives, how do they work?Big One said:
And yes, not only have a I played OoT a dozen or more times, I happen to be in the middle of playing it on 3DS. It is by all accounts a significantly more challenging game than WW or TP. And even then it's a bit easier than I would prefer it.
The Legend of Zelda was my first Zelda game. And there was precisely one puzzle in TP that stumped me. The game only ever gives you one dungeon key at a time, which generally has to be used in one specific door. It's all very prescribed. I remember actually being surprised at finally being given a binary choice between a left hand path and right hand path in the Arbiter's Grounds. Don't get me wrong, TP has some clever dungeon designs, but not because they're particularly difficult.Cerebral Assassin said:
Franchuzas87
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Twilight Princess had damn easy fights, but I think the puzzles were challenging for the most part.
SS starts with 6 hearts, but most enemies deal 1 heart of damage. That means you can take 6 hits before dying. With TP, you start with 3, most enemies deal 1/4. You can take 12 hits before dying.
Now think about it, in SS, even if you take 1 more heart, that's just one more hit you can take before dying, in TP, that would be 4 more hits.
By the end of the game:
SS: 20 hits.
TP: 80 hits. (40 for enemies that take 1/2 of a heart.)
So the key is to not get hit, I guess. Just a random though. I mean, that's already something for difficulty.
Now think about it, in SS, even if you take 1 more heart, that's just one more hit you can take before dying, in TP, that would be 4 more hits.
By the end of the game:
SS: 20 hits.
TP: 80 hits. (40 for enemies that take 1/2 of a heart.)
So the key is to not get hit, I guess. Just a random though. I mean, that's already something for difficulty.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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A lot of the Mario Galaxies wasn't difficult and for me, it didn't take away any of the fun factor at all.
I like a challenge but I'd rather play a somewhat easy game that is immaculately designed than an overly difficult one that is merely well made.
I like a challenge but I'd rather play a somewhat easy game that is immaculately designed than an overly difficult one that is merely well made.
Ragus said:
Zelda 1 and 2 did.
Lttp was pretty challenging the first time. Sending you back to the start of a dungeon with 3 hearts every time sucked.
Since then, it hasn't been too bad. OOT, MM and WW were somewhat challenging my first time around. TP was autopilot the entire way through. Since 2006, I've played every Zelda game, and none are as easy as TP.
No, I'm not asking for Dark Souls. But easier than TP? Is that even possible? That's like Epic Yarn tier.
Hobbestetrician
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Could not care less about the difficulty, if it is referring to the difficulty in combat and how often you are at risk of dying. That kind of stuff is annoying to me and takes me out of the experience. It is supposed to be a grand adventure and dying every 15 minutes takes away from the adventure for me. It is why I dont particularly like the early games in the series. If it is referring to puzzles and exploration and having your hand held at every turn then, yes, I do care about that and don't want it to be easy.
To each their own, I guess.
To each their own, I guess.